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General Refereeing => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bielsa’s Bucket on Sat 29 Sep 2018 12:15
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Thought Rob Jones was great last night let the game flow managed it well and that made for a great game which we should have won. After that performance in my opinion there is no doubt that Jones will be in SG1 next season
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I too thought he was brilliant. Always in control, decisions generally spot on and tried to let the game flow. IMO, he should get his PL break NOW while he is such good form - why wait til the end of the season when he is ready now!
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Possibly yes maybe he should be promoted now alongside Madley but my only concern is that Jones is rushed and might not be used to the intensity of the premier league
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I too thought he was brilliant. Always in control, decisions generally spot on and tried to let the game flow. IMO, he should get his PL break NOW while he is such good form - why wait til the end of the season when he is ready now!
Promote someone because they are the best person for the job?now that’s a novel idea!
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I too thought he was brilliant. Always in control, decisions generally spot on and tried to let the game flow. IMO, he should get his PL break NOW while he is such good form - why wait til the end of the season when he is ready now!
Promote someone because they are the best person for the job?now that’s a novel idea!
Indeed, just like Bobby Madley and Stuart Atwell in the past .........hang on a minute! 🧐
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He's the best referee in SG2 by a country mile and was excellent again last night.
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Every so often a referee emerges who is, by universal acclaim "the real deal". Rob Jones appears to be one. There was some ( well notably one person ) who thought Stuart Attwell was first time around but that was not universally shared. With Jones it is, rather as in years past it was with George Courtney and more latterly Mark Clattenburg.
It is important to bring Jones on at a pace with which he is comfortable. The Premier League spotlight on referees and their decisions is far, far brighter than anywhere else. A gradual exposure to it would seem to be a sensible course
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If he can handle the bigger games in the Championship so well, as he did this with this Yorkshire derby, I don't really see why he can't be given a couple or more of the lower profile Premier League games at this stage of the season and see how he does. If as we expect, he copes well with them, then why not promote him?
I know there are historical reasons for caution but sooner or later, if he is to advance, he will have to make the big step upwards so why not now? If the Attwell experience is the problem, I can understand the need to be careful but, to be honest, I would say that so far Jones is in a different league anyway in terms of natural ability so the risk is minimal.
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If he can handle the bigger games in the Championship so well, as he did this with this Yorkshire derby, I don't really see why he can't be given a couple or more of the lower profile Premier League games at this stage of the season and see how he does. If as we expect, he copes well with them, then why not promote him?
I know there are historical reasons for caution but sooner or later, if he is to advance, he will have to make the big step upwards so why not now? If the Attwell experience is the problem, I can understand the need to be careful but, to be honest, I would say that so far Jones is in a different league anyway in terms of natural ability so the risk is minimal.
I can only agree with everything you have said in this post reflector
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Dermot Gallagher doesn't seem to have been as impressed with the officiating! He said on Sky this morning it was 'sloppy' that a goal kick hadn't been made to be retaken when it hadn't left the penalty area.
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Dermot Gallagher doesn't seem to have been as impressed with the officiating! He said on Sky this morning it was 'sloppy' that a goal kick hadn't been made to be retaken when it hadn't left the penalty area.
I watched the game live and can't remember seeing that happen.
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I noticed that at the time and then thought as there had been a delay it wasn't a goal kick but a free kick for offside? But thinking about it don't free kicks have to go out of the area?
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I noticed that at the time and then thought as there had been a delay it wasn't a goal kick but a free kick for offside? But thinking about it don't free kicks have to go out of the area?
Yes, it's amazing the amount of players who do not understand that.
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I noticed that at the time and then thought as there had been a delay it wasn't a goal kick but a free kick for offside? But thinking about it don't free kicks have to go out of the area?
Yes, it's amazing the amount of players who do not understand that.
Matched only by the number of referees who don't appear to understand the encroachment rules at penalty kicks.
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Dermot Gallagher doesn't seem to have been as impressed with the officiating! He said on Sky this morning it was 'sloppy' that a goal kick hadn't been made to be retaken when it hadn't left the penalty area.
I respect dermot he was a damngood referee but that was petty, im sure he wasnt faultless in his career and was probably sloppy on occasion too. Perhaps this sort of petty critic shoube kept in private.
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Dermot Gallagher doesn't seem to have been as impressed with the officiating! He said on Sky this morning it was 'sloppy' that a goal kick hadn't been made to be retaken when it hadn't left the penalty area.
I respect dermot he was a damngood referee but that was petty, im sure he wasnt faultless in his career and was probably sloppy on occasion too. Perhaps this sort of petty critic shoube kept in private.
I would rather listen to Gallagher any day of the week rather than the dross and claptrap Hackett churns out week after week.
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Dermot was ace! He always used to referee the Hamworthy v AFCB friendly, which is widely considered the best ever friendly by AFCB fans who were around in the good old days of Leagues 1 & 2. BBQ & beers sat on the grass bank, it was always the 1st pre-season friendly & everyone went just for the BBQ, beers and socialising. Not sure anyone actually watched the game - ever! Dermot has a great sense of humour and on one occasion he showed Marcus Browning a red card in the car park as he arrived while telling him it would save him having to do it in the game. We were all in fits of laughter. Every year he'd ask me if he was still my favourite ref and I'd say yes so he'd shout over to Marcus, that's you booked again! Marcus was my fav player & the most booked player! The origins of my forum name - Marcus nicknamed me Book Me Browning, shortened to bmb over the years. Very good memories of Dermot from those games! Not sure I ever saw him in the league though!
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Dermot Gallagher doesn't seem to have been as impressed with the officiating! He said on Sky this morning it was 'sloppy' that a goal kick hadn't been made to be retaken when it hadn't left the penalty area.
I respect dermot he was a damngood referee but that was petty, im sure he wasnt faultless in his career and was probably sloppy on occasion too. Perhaps this sort of petty critic shoube kept in private.
I completely agree with you Plym-Nick. I am afraid Gallagher's criticism of Rob Jones comes under the general category of nit-picking. It is just too easy to find a technical error withon a referee's performance and miss the overarching picture of a referee in absolute control of a match. In my view, the whole Assessing/Obseving business is bedevilled by such minor criticisms and thus fails to observe the bigger picture. Assessore/Obsevers please note, great referees are not manufactured but have an inate talent for their craft. Rob Jones has it in spades,please let's celebrate it.
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I liked Dermot Gallagher as a referee but he wasn’t without his errors. If it wasn’t for that career threatening Euro
96 injury who knows what additional honours he could have picked up ?
I agree with WB. While it is disappointing that Rob Jones missed a relatively minor error in law, I would still prefer to see him referee a match than the likes of Robinson or Davies who could pick up on such things and be generally woeful for the other 90 odd minutes.
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I liked Dermot Gallagher as a referee but he wasn’t without his errors. If it wasn’t for that career threatening Euro
96 injury who knows what additional honours he could have picked up ?
I agree with WB. While it is disappointing that Rob Jones missed a relatively minor error in law, I would still prefer to see him referee a match than the likes of Robinson or Davies who could pick up on such things and be generally woeful for the other 90 odd minutes.
I certainly agree with the sentiment of the second paragraph but I don't think they are mutually exclusive - you can rate Rob Jones very highly but still be critical of the officials for missing a relatively obvious offence.