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Title: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: referee12 on Sat 29 Aug 2020 15:04
this was delayed due to covid but opening matchdays begin Thursday- hopefully Taylor/Oliver involved poss lahoz? Turpin?
Title: Re: Uefa nations league
Post by: Readingfan on Sun 30 Aug 2020 17:37
Being technical, it was the play-offs for qualifying for the Euros and the Euros themselves that were delayed, rather than Nations League - play-offs from March are now due to be played in October (semis) and November (finals.)

Is VAR going to be used for these games? I think that was the original intention but I know they've delayed bringing it in for the Europa League group stages until next season, presumably because of a lack of training opportunities due to Covid.
Title: Re: Uefa nations league
Post by: bmb on Sun 30 Aug 2020 18:14
Waiting to see if there is going to be delays again! Hungary's borders close at midnight until at least 30th September - no in or out & not seen any exceptions for sporting events. I'm sure the MLSZ are working on an exception being granted!
Title: Re: Uefa nations league
Post by: Alitalia on Mon 31 Aug 2020 08:27
What kind of problems ?
Title: Re: Uefa nations league
Post by: tomp on Mon 31 Aug 2020 09:58
League A - Group 4
3 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Lviv (Arena Lviv)
Ukraine - Switzerland
Referee: Andreas Ekberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1:  Mehmet Culum (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefan Hallberg (SWE)
Fourth Official: Kaspar Sjöberg (SWE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Shmuel Shteif  (ISR)
UEFA Delegate: Armen Minasyan (ARM)

League A - Group 4
3 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Stuttgart (Arena Stuttgart)
Germany - Spain
Referee: Daniele Orsato (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1:  Alessandro Giallatini (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2:  Fabiano Preti (ITA)
Fourth Official: Massimiliano Irrati (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Medved (SVK)
UEFA Delegate: Mike Foster (ENG)

League B - Group 3
3 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Sivas (Yeni Sivas 4 Eylül Stadyumu)
Turkey - Hungary
Referee: Artur Dias (POR)
Assistant Referee 1:  Rui Tavares (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Paulo Soares (POR)
Fourth Official: Hugo Miguel (POR) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Fritz Stuchlik (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Orkhan Huseynzade (AZE)

League B - Group 3
3 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Moscow (Dynamo Central Stadium)
Russia - Serbia
Referee: William Collum (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1:  Francis Connor (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: David McGeachie (SCO)
Fourth Official: John Beaton (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Orhan Erdemir (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Kuanysh Kanapyanov (KAZ)

League B - Group 4
3 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Sofia (Natsionalen Stadion Vasil Levski)
Bulgaria - Republic of Ireland
Referee: Dennis Higler (NED) Manuel Schuettengruber (AUT)
Assistant Referee 1: Charles Schaap (NED) Robert Steinacher (AUT)
Assistant Referee 2: Rogier Honig (NED) Andreas Rothmann (AUT)
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Boško Jovanetić (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Lamprini Dimitriou (GRE)

League B - Group 4
3 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Helsinki (Helsinki Olympic Stadium)
Finland - Wales
Referee: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Seidel (GER)
Assistant Referee 2:  Rafael Foltyn (GER)
Fourth Official: Bastian Dankert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michalis Koukoulakis (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Targo Kaldoja (EST)

League C - Group 3
3 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Parma (Stadio Ennio Tardini)
Moldova - Kosovo
Referee: Kai Erik Steen (NOR)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Erik Engan (NOR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tom Harald Grřnevik (NOR)
Fourth Official: Kristoffer Hagenes (NOR)
UEFA Referee Observer:  Matteo Simone Trefoloni (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Ciprian Paraschiv (ROU)

League C - Group 3
3 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Ljubljana (Stadion Stožice)
Slovenia - Greece
Referee: Robert Madden (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Graeme Stewart (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: David Roome (SCO)
Fourth Official: Donald Robertson (SCO)  
UEFA Referee Observer: Stéphane Lannoy (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Robert Kispal (HUN)

League D - Group 1
3 September 2020, 18:00 CET - Riga (Dugava)
Latvia - Andorra
Referee: Timotheos Christofi (CYP)
Assistant Referee 1: Michael Soteriou (CYP)
Assistant Referee 2: Omiros Tziortzis (CYP)
Fourth Official: Loukas Sotiriou (CYP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Emil Bozhinovski (MKD)
UEFA Delegate: Vladimiras Buzmakovas (LTU)

League D - Group 1
3 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Tórshavn (Tórsvřllur)
Faroe Islands - Malta
Referee: Ádám Farkas (HUN)
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Szert (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Theodoros Georgiou (HUN)
Fourth Official: Ferenc Karakó (HUN)
UEFA Referee Observer:Bertrand Layec (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Per Eliasson (SWE)   

Source: UEFA Nations League Website
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: tomp on Tue 01 Sep 2020 09:31
League A - Group 1
4 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Florence (Stadio Artemio Franchi)
Italy - Bosnia and Herzegovina
Referee: Anastasios Sidiropoulos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 1: Polychronis Kostaras (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Lazaros Dimitriadis (GRE)
Fourth Official: Ioannis Papadopoulos (GRE)
UEFA Referee Observer:  Lucilio Batista (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Alex Miescher (SUI)

League A - Group 1
4 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Amsterdam (Johan Cruijff ArenA)
Netherlands - Poland
Referee: Georgi Kabakov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 1: Martin Margaritov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 2: Diyan Valkov (BUL)
Fourth Official: Nikola Popov (BUL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Costas Kapitanis (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Björn Fecker (GER)

League B - Group 1
4 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Bucharest (Arena Națională)
Romania - Northern Ireland
Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA)
Fourth Official: Amaury Delerue (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Ingvarsson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Miroslaw Ryszka (POL)

League B - Group 1
4 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Oslo (Ulevaal Stadion)
Norway - Austria
Referee: Mattias Gestranius (FIN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan-Peter Aravirta (FIN)
Assistant Referee 2: Mikko Alakare (FIN)
Fourth Official: Antti Munukka (FIN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Edgar Steinborn (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Arturs Gaidels (LVA)

League B - Group 2
4 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Galsgow (Hampden Park)
Scotland - Israel
Referee: Slavko Vinčić (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaž Klančnik (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
Fourth Official: Matej Jug (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer:  Ray Ellingham (WAL)
UEFA Delegate: Andrew Shaw (ENG)

League B - Group 2
4 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Bratislava (Národný futbalový štadión)
Slovakia - Czech Republic
Referee: Andris Treimanis (LVA)
Assistant Referee 1: Haralds Gudermanis (LVA)
Assistant Referee 2: Aleksejs Spasjonnikovs (LVA)
Fourth Official: Aleksandrs Golubevs (LVA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Jacques Antenen (SUI)

League C - Group 4
4 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Vilnius (LFF stadionas)
Lithuania - Kazakhstan
Referee: Rade Obrenovič (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Grega Kordež (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomislav Pospeh (SVN)
Fourth Official: Nejc Kajtazovič (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer:  Andrejs Sipailo (LVA)
UEFA Delegate: Jānis Mežeckis (LVA)

League C - Group 4
4 September 2020, 20:45 CET -  Minsk (National Olympic Stadium Dinamo)
Belarus - Albania
Referee: Kristoffer Karlsson (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Daniel Gustavsson (SWE)   
Assistant Referee 2: Max Robin Wilde (SWE)
Fourth Official: Fredrik Klitte (SWE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Dejan Filipović (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Alina Capatina (MDA)
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: tomp on Wed 02 Sep 2020 09:46
League A - Group 2
5 September 2020, 18:00 CET - Reykjavik (Laugardalsvöllur)
Iceland - England
Referee: Srdjan Jovanović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Novak Simović (SRB)
UEFA Referee Observer:  Jon Skjervold (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Aristeidis Stavropoulos (GRE)

League A - Group 2
5 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Copenhagen (Parken)
Denmark - Belgium
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Stéphane De Almeida (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Fourth Official: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Darko Čeferin (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Fiona Pförtke (GER)

League A - Group 3
5 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Solna (Friends Arena)
Sweden - France
Referee:  Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Fourth Official: Daniel Stefanski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer:  Herbert Fandel (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Thura Win (ENG)

League A - Group 3
5 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Porto (Estádio do Dragăo)
Portugal - Croatia
Referee: Davide Massa (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Filippo Meli (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefano Alassio (ITA)
Fourth Official:  Paolo Valeri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Hansson (SWE) 
UEFA Delegate: Peter Oskam (NED)

League C - Group 2
5 September 2020, 15:00 CET - Skopje (National Arena Todor Proeski)
North Macedonia - Armenia
Referee: Irfan Peljto (BIH)
Assistant Referee 1: Senad Ibrisimbegović (BIH)
Assistant Referee 2: Davor Beljo (BIH)
Fourth Official: Admir Šehović (BIH)
UEFA Referee Observer: Aleh Chykun (BLR) 
UEFA Delegate: Pavel Kolev (BUL)

League C - Group 1
5 September 2020, 18:00 CET - Baku (Bakı Olimpiya Stadionu)
Azerbaijan - Luxembourg
Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Daniel Richard Cook (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Sian Massey-Ellis (ENG)
Fourth Official: Paul Tierney (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer:  Stefano Podeschi (SMR)
UEFA Delegate: Metin Kazancıoğlu (TUR)

League C - Group 1
5 September 2020, 18:00 CET - Nicosia (GSP)
Cyprus - Montenegro
Referee: Harm Osmers (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Robert Kempter (GER)
Fourth Official: Tobias Stieler (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Cyril Zimmermann (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Depi Koxenoglou GRE)

League C - Group 2
5 September 2020, 18:00 CET - Tallinn (Lilleküla Arena)
Estonia - Georgia
Referee: Donatas Rumšas (LTU)
Assistant Referee 1: Aleksandr Radius (LTU)
Assistant Referee 2: Dovydas Sužiedėlis (LTU)
Fourth Official: Manfredas Lukjancukas (LTU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Peter Lundström (FIN)
UEFA Delegate: Michalis Argyrou (CYP)

League D - Group 2
5 September 2020, 15:00 CET - Gibraltar (Victoria Stadium)
Gibraltar - San Marino
Referee: Aleksandrs Anufrijevs (LVA)
Assistant Referee 1: Denis Ševcenko (LVA)
Assistant Referee 2: Romans Platonovs (LVA)
Fourth Official: Vitālijs Spasjoņņikovs (LVA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael Thomas Ross (NIR) 
UEFA Delegate:  Gilles Petitmangin (FRA)       
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: Readingfan on Wed 02 Sep 2020 09:57
I seem to remember Jovanović  from the U21 Euros last summer - I thought he did well.
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: bmb on Wed 02 Sep 2020 13:59
Loving seeing Sian Massey-Ellis out with Chris Kavanagh. About time she got some recognition she deserves, she is such a fantastic AR.
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Wed 02 Sep 2020 20:48
Loving seeing Sian Massey-Ellis out with Chris Kavanagh. About time she got some recognition she deserves, she is such a fantastic AR.

That’s a long trip as well to Baku!

Important observer for Marciniak in Sweden.
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: tomp on Thu 03 Sep 2020 09:18
League A - Group 4
6 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Madrid (Estadio Alfredo Di Stéfano)
Spain - Ukraine
Referee: Benoît Bastien (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Hicham Zakrani (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Frédéric Haquette (FRA)
Fourth Official: Benoît Millot (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Igor Pristovnik (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Álvaro Albino (POR)

League A - Group 4
6 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Basel (St. Jakob's Park)
Switzerland - Germany
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sándor Piller (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Georg Lüchinger (LIE)

League B - Group 4
6 September 2020, 15:00 CET - Cardiff (Cardiff City Stadium)
Wales - Bulgaria
Referee: Fábio Veríssimo (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Luis Campos (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Nuno De Sá Martins (POR)
Fourth Official: Antonio Emanuel Carvalho Nobre (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Crawford Wilson (NIR)

League B - Group 3
6 September 2020, 18:00 CET - Budapest (Puskás Arena)
Hungary - Russia
Referee: Maurizio Mariani (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Alberto Tegoni (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Daniele Bindoni (ITA)
Fourth Official: Daniele Doveri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU) 
UEFA Delegate: Nils Fisketjonn (NOR)

League B - Group 4
6 September 2020, 18:00 CET - Dublin (Dublin Arena)
Republic of Ireland - Finland
Referee:  Fabio Maresca (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Ciro Carbone (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Giorgio Peretti (ITA)
Fourth Official: Marco Guida (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Uno Tutk (EST)
UEFA Delegate: Oleg Harlamov (EST)

League B - Group 3
6 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Belgrade (Stadion Rajko Mitić)
Serbia - Turkey
Referee: Aleksei Kulbakov (BLR)
Assistant Referee 1: Dmitri Zhuk (BLR)
Assistant Referee 2: Oleg Maslyanko (BLR)
Fourth Official: Viktor Shimusik (BLR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Volodymyr Petrov (UKR)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Řepka (CZE)

League C - Group 3
6 September 2020, 18:00 CET - Ljubljana (Stadion Stožice)
Slovenia - Moldova
Referee: Jérôme Brisard (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Benjamin Pages (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Erwan Christophe Finjean (FRA)
Fourth Official: Frank Schneider (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sergejus Slyva (LTU)
UEFA Delegate: Paolo Rondelli (SMR)

League C - Group 3
6 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Prishtina (Stadiumi Fadil Vokrri)
Kosovo - Greece
Referee: Pavel Královec (CZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Ivo Nadvornik (CZE)
Assistant Referee 2: TomᚠMokrusch (CZE)
Fourth Official: Petr Ardeleanu (CZE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jens Larsen (DEN)
UEFA Delegate: Boris Stankov (BUL)

League D - Group 1
6 September 2020, 15:00 CET - Andorra La Vella (Estadi Nacional)
Andorra - Faroe Islands
Referee: Harald Lechner (AUT)
Assistant Referee 1: Maximilian Kolbitsch (AUT)
Assistant Referee 2: Andreas Staudinger (AUT)
Fourth Official: Christian-Petru Ciochirca (AUT)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nuno Castro (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Pascal Parent (FRA)

League D - Group 1
6 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Ta' Qali (National Stadium)
Malta - Latvia
Referee: Stéphanie Frappart (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Aurélien Drouet (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mikael Berchebru (FRA)
Fourth Official: Willy Delajod (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vitor Melo Pereira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: David Pugh (ENG)
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: Mackem ref on Thu 03 Sep 2020 09:25
I think it's excellent to see Frappart amongst the latest set of appointments. It is about time referees were promoted based on level of skill and not race, gender, sexuality or any other factor! I hope it goes well for her!
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: ajb95 on Thu 03 Sep 2020 09:48
Welcome back pavel Kralovec!! Been a long time

Good game for Oliver as well
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: bmb on Thu 03 Sep 2020 22:46

League B - Group 3
3 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Sivas (Yeni Sivas 4 Eylül Stadyumu)
Turkey - Hungary
Referee: Artur Dias (POR)
Assistant Referee 1:  Rui Tavares (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Paulo Soares (POR)
Fourth Official: Hugo Miguel (POR) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Fritz Stuchlik (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Orkhan Huseynzade (AZE)


Enjoyed this ref's performance this evening. Very calm, in the background but made his decisions fairly and consistently overall in a quiet and understated manner.  Great communication with players, calmly explaining decisions, the lack of dissent was noticeable.  He's clearly experienced and it showed. I'm sure I have seen him before. He did fall for some Turkish play acting a couple of times but in situations where had there been contact it would have been on his blindside so them going down like a sniper had hit them influenced his decisions. None were major or game changing.  I did gain a bit of a soft spot for him pre-match when he gave his 2 AR's a kiss on the cheek, well I assume it was both of them, the camera panned to him as he gave AR1 a kiss and I just thought how sweet it was. Possibly not the wisest of things during this pandemic but they will have had 2 negative tests in the past few days or they'd not be there!

Absolute cracker of a goal for Hungary's winner: https://twitter.com/TomaszMortimer/status/1301617037966442496
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: tomp on Fri 04 Sep 2020 09:13
League A - Group 1
7 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Zenica (Stadion Bilino polje)
Bosnia and Herzegovina - Poland
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR) 
Assistant Referee 2:  Tarik Ongun (TUR)
Fourth Official: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Tulinger (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: Alojzije Šupraha (CRO)

League A - Group 1
7 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Amsterdam (Johan Cruijff ArenA)
Netherlands - Italy
Referee: Felix Brych (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Mark Borsch (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Fourth Official: Christian Dingert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolphe Mannaerts (BEL)

League B - Group 1
7 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Belfast (Windsor Park)
Northern Ireland - Norway
Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Marcin Boniek (POL) 
Assistant Referee 2: Jakub Winkler (POL)
Fourth Official: Krzysztof Jakubik (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Drago Kos (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: David Findlay (SCO)

League B - Group 1
7 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Klagenfurt (Wörthersee Stadion)
Austria - Romania
Referee: Glenn Nyberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mahbod Beigi (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Andreas Söderqvist (SWE)
Fourth Official: Mohammed Al-Hakim (SWE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alain Hamer (LUX)
UEFA Delegate: Dusko Grabovac (CRO)

League B - Group 2
7 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Netanya (Netanya Stadium)
Israel - Slovakia
Referee: Nikola Dabanović (MNE)
Assistant Referee 1: Milovan Djukić (MNE)
Assistant Referee 2: Vladan Todorović (MNE)
Fourth Official: Milovan Milacić (MNE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Levan Paniashvili (GEO) 
UEFA Delegate: Felix Grigore (ROU)

League B - Group 2
7 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Olomouc (Andrův Stadion)
Czech Republic - Scotland
Referee: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Joost van Zuilen (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Johan Balder (NED)
Fourth Official: Bas Nijhuis (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Karen Nalbandyan (ARM)
UEFA Delegate: Róbert Bárczi (HUN)

League C - Group 4
7 September 2020, 16:00 CET - Almaty (Ortalyk Stadion)
Kazakhstan - Belarus
Referee: Giorgi Kruashvili (GEO)
Assistant Referee 1: Levan Varamishvili (GEO)
Assistant Referee 2: Zaza Pipia (GEO)
Fourth Official: Georgi Vadachkoria (GEO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Mhmet Murat Ilgaz (TUR)
UEFA Delegate: Yuriy Barbash (UKR)

League C - Group 4
7 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Tirana (Arena Kombëtare)
Albania - Lithuania
Referee: Serhiy Boiko (UKR)
Assistant Referee 1: Volodymyr Volodin (UKR)
Assistant Referee 2: Andrii Skrypka (UKR)
Fourth Official: Yevhenii Aranovskiy (UKR)
UEFA Referee Observer:  Miroslav Liba (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: Jan Korinek (CZE)         
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Fri 04 Sep 2020 15:41
No surprise a big hitter has Holland v Italy. Is there some rivalry requiring Cakir in BIH?
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: bmb on Fri 04 Sep 2020 16:20
Is there some rivalry requiring Cakir in BIH?

Eastern Europe is full of big rivalries, some of which stem back many centuries. Turkish occupation/Habsburg rule in the Austro-Hungarian Empire/Trianon Treaty - still a very raw wound 100 years on, then throw in WWII followed by the Soviet occupation and then the breakup of Yugoslavia from the 80's until fairly recently that saw many many horrendous atrocities - it's a powder keg there still in many areas.  Hungary/Turkey & Hungary/Serbia there is a strong hatred - nowhere near that of Hungary/Romania which is all out war. Hungary/Poland on the other hand is a brotherhood & a very strong love between the 2 nations. Everyone hates Romania - mainly down to Trianon. Everyone hates Serbia because of the Yugoslav wars etc. The axis powers siding with the Nazis in WWII caused huge divisions in the region that have never healed because they were followed immediately by the Soviet occupation. The wounds are still deep because of Independence for most of these nations being for only the last 30 years or less and in those 30 years was the horrendous Yugoslav war. It will take another generation before wounds start to really heal.
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: tomp on Sat 05 Sep 2020 09:51
League A - Group 2
8 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Copenhagen (Parken)
Denmark - England
Referee: István Kovács (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
Fourth Official: Marius Avram (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Gylfi Ţór Orrason (ISL)
UEFA Delegate: Tammo Beishuizen (NED)

League A - Group 2
8 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Brussels (King Baudouin Stadium)
Belgium - Iceland
Referee: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Radosław Siejka (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Kupsik (POL)
Fourth Official: Pawel Gil (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Thomas Einwaller (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Patrick Wattebled (FA)

League A - Group 3
8 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Solna (Friends Arena)
Sweden - Portugal
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Mario Diks (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Jochem Kamphuis (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Herbert Fandel (GER) 
UEFA Delegate: Thura Win (ENG)

League A - Group 3
8 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Saint Denis (Stade de France)
France - Croatia
Referee: Ovidiu Hațegan (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Octavian Șovre (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Gheorghe (ROU)
Fourth Official: Sebastian Colțescu (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alfredo Trentalange (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Jean Paul Mievis (BEL)

League C - Group 2
8 September 2020, 18:00 CET - Yerevan (Republican Stadium after Vazgen Sargsyan)
Armenia - Estonia
Referee: David Coote (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Lee Betts (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Constantine Hatzidakis (ENG)
Fourth Official: Stuart Attwell (ENG) 
UEFA Referee Observer: William Young (SCO) 
UEFA Delegate: Olzhas Abrayev (KAZ)

League C - Group 2
8 September 2020, 18:00 CET - Tbilisi (Boris Paichadze NationalStadium Dinamo Arena)
Georgia - North Macedonia
Referee: Peter Kjaesgaard (DEN)
Assistant Referee 1: Victor Skytte (DEN)
Assistant Referee 2: Jakob Lodal Lynge Mastrup (DEN)
Fourth Official: Michael Tykgaard (DEN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vlado Svilokos (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Jeroen Roest (NED)

League C - Group 1
8 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Luxembourg (Stade Josy Barthel)
Luxembourg - Montenegro
Referee: Lawrence Visser (BEL)
Assistant Referee 1: Thibaud Nijssen (BEL)
Assistant Referee 2: Rien Vanyzere (BEL)
Fourth Official: Bram Van Driessche (BEL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Haim Jakov (ISR) 
UEFA Delegate: Emmanuelle Puttaert (BEL)

League C - Group 1
8 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Nicosia (GSP)
Cyprus - Azerbaijan
Referee: Filip Glova (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1:  Peter Bednar (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: František Ferenc (SVK)
Fourth Official: Boris Marhefka (SVK)
UEFA Referee Observer: Andreas Schluchter (SUI) 
UEFA Delegate: Myrsini Psarropoulou (GRE)

League D - Group 2
8 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Serravalle (San Marino Stadium)
San Marino - Liechtenstein
Referee: Enea Jorgji (ALB)
Assistant Referee 1: Ridiger Çokaj (ALB)
Assistant Referee 2: Rejdi Avdo (ALB)
Fourth Official: Eldorjan Hamiti (ALB)
UEFA Referee Observer: Luc Wouters (BEL) 
UEFA Delegate: Anna Bordiugova (UKR)         
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: RCG on Sat 05 Sep 2020 11:50
Good luck to David. English refs being fairly well "far flung", first Azerbaijan and now Armenia
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: DBLTFC on Sat 05 Sep 2020 18:47
Is the referee in the England game trying to make a name for himself?
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: rustyref on Sat 05 Sep 2020 19:57
Is the referee in the England game trying to make a name for himself?

Aside from the disallowed goal, which is arguably more his fault than the assistant's, he didn't get much wrong at all.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Sun 06 Sep 2020 00:00
Pleased to see a decent appointment for Kovács István. Sok sikert István.
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: DBLTFC on Sun 06 Sep 2020 11:25
Is the referee in the England game trying to make a name for himself?

Aside from the disallowed goal, which is arguably more his fault than the assistant's, he didn't get much wrong at all.

Perhaps the change of law has something to do with it, but I'd be fuming if I'd have been penalised for either penalty, especially the handball. The Gomez penalty was soft and I can kind of understand why he gave it, but I thought it was more of a coming together. Thought it was a classic case of levelling up a previous mistake.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: ajb95 on Sun 06 Sep 2020 11:59
5 September 2020, 15:00 CET - Skopje (National Arena Todor Proeski)
North Macedonia - Armenia
Referee: Irfan Peljto (BIH)
Assistant Referee 1: Senad Ibrisimbegović (BIH)
Assistant Referee 2: Davor Beljo (BIH)
Fourth Official: Admir Šehović (BIH)
UEFA Referee Observer: Aleh Chykun (BLR) 
UEFA Delegate: Pavel Kolev (BUL)

Don’t ask why I watched this game but glad I did!!

Never heard of seen anything about the referee but he looks young - can’t be much over 30!!
A terrific display: fully in control, excellent judgement of fouls. Good rapport with players. All 3 penalties spot on. Don’t know what level he’s at but I think he could well go much further!!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sun 06 Sep 2020 14:07
5 September 2020, 15:00 CET - Skopje (National Arena Todor Proeski)
North Macedonia - Armenia
Referee: Irfan Peljto (BIH)
Assistant Referee 1: Senad Ibrisimbegović (BIH)
Assistant Referee 2: Davor Beljo (BIH)
Fourth Official: Admir Šehović (BIH)
UEFA Referee Observer: Aleh Chykun (BLR) 
UEFA Delegate: Pavel Kolev (BUL)

Don’t ask why I watched this game but glad I did!!

Never heard of seen anything about the referee but he looks young - can’t be much over 30!!
A terrific display: fully in control, excellent judgement of fouls. Good rapport with players. All 3 penalties spot on. Don’t know what level he’s at but I think he could well go much further!!

Edy mentioned a while back to keep an eye on Peljto... he appears to be a star in the making.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Sun 06 Sep 2020 15:25
5 September 2020, 15:00 CET - Skopje (National Arena Todor Proeski)
North Macedonia - Armenia
Referee: Irfan Peljto (BIH)
Assistant Referee 1: Senad Ibrisimbegović (BIH)
Assistant Referee 2: Davor Beljo (BIH)
Fourth Official: Admir Šehović (BIH)
UEFA Referee Observer: Aleh Chykun (BLR) 
UEFA Delegate: Pavel Kolev (BUL)

Don’t ask why I watched this game but glad I did!!

Never heard of seen anything about the referee but he looks young - can’t be much over 30!!
A terrific display: fully in control, excellent judgement of fouls. Good rapport with players. All 3 penalties spot on. Don’t know what level he’s at but I think he could well go much further!!

Edy mentioned a while back to keep an eye on Peljto... he appears to be a star in the making.

Pejito impressed me on the last edition of UEFA U19 Final Tournament. He even handled the final. A referee who is quite modern but isn't afraid to use cautions. A real talent. I hope to see him in Elite in a couple of seasons (he is currently 1st Group).
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Hendo on Sun 06 Sep 2020 19:36
5 September 2020, 15:00 CET - Skopje (National Arena Todor Proeski)
North Macedonia - Armenia
Referee: Irfan Peljto (BIH)
Assistant Referee 1: Senad Ibrisimbegović (BIH)
Assistant Referee 2: Davor Beljo (BIH)
Fourth Official: Admir Šehović (BIH)
UEFA Referee Observer: Aleh Chykun (BLR) 
UEFA Delegate: Pavel Kolev (BUL)

Don’t ask why I watched this game but glad I did!!

Never heard of seen anything about the referee but he looks young - can’t be much over 30!!
A terrific display: fully in control, excellent judgement of fouls. Good rapport with players. All 3 penalties spot on. Don’t know what level he’s at but I think he could well go much further!!

He’s 36. Born July 1984=
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Sun 06 Sep 2020 19:43
League B - Group 3
6 September 2020, 18:00 CET - Budapest (Puskás Arena)
Hungary - Russia
Referee: Maurizio Mariani (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Alberto Tegoni (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Daniele Bindoni (ITA)
Fourth Official: Daniele Doveri (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU) 
UEFA Delegate: Nils Fisketjonn (NOR)

I am sure Mr Deaconu will be happy with what he saw out on the pitch from this youngish ref this evening. Barely even noticed he was on the pitch. Did get in the way a couple of times and had to jump over the ball but I can't think of any decisions that I thought were poor or completely wrong. He was helped by 2 overall well behaved teams more interested in playing the game than seeing who could get away with the most gamesmanship! It made for a good game to watch. Well Hungary's defending at times wasn't quite so good to watch granted but that's not the refs fault! Russia fully deserving of their win but a promising 2nd half performance from Hungary.

As an aside he can definitely be added to the list of potentials for bmb's top ref totty!!  ;D
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: ajb95 on Sun 06 Sep 2020 20:53
Oliver doing well so far, half time 1-0 Germany
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: ajb95 on Sun 06 Sep 2020 22:07
League A - Group 4
6 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Basel (St. Jakob's Park)
Switzerland - Germany
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sándor Piller (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Georg Lüchinger (LIE)

Good display from Oliver. Never in any danger, two well controlled and well managed teams. Fitness excellent, good judgement, nothing to flashy!!
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: edy on Tue 08 Sep 2020 21:26
League C - Group 2
8 September 2020, 18:00 CET - Yerevan (Republican Stadium after Vazgen Sargsyan)
Armenia - Estonia
Referee: David Coote (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Lee Betts (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Constantine Hatzidakis (ENG)
Fourth Official: Stuart Attwell (ENG) 
UEFA Referee Observer: William Young (SCO) 
UEFA Delegate: Olzhas Abrayev (KAZ)

An incident from this match

https://streamable.com/6qfful
Title: Re: 2020–21 UEFA Nations League
Post by: ajb95 on Tue 08 Sep 2020 21:48
League C - Group 2
8 September 2020, 18:00 CET - Yerevan (Republican Stadium after Vazgen Sargsyan)
Armenia - Estonia
Referee: David Coote (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Lee Betts (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Constantine Hatzidakis (ENG)
Fourth Official: Stuart Attwell (ENG) 
UEFA Referee Observer: William Young (SCO) 
UEFA Delegate: Olzhas Abrayev (KAZ)

An incident from this match



I know red player is off the ground (what is that technique) but when he tackles its with one leg and does play the ball too. Correct yellow card for me and well handled by Coote

Only edited to remove the video from the quote - it can be watched in Edy's post. bmb
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: RCG on Wed 09 Sep 2020 07:14
Why do players tackle like that? Few inches further right and he misses the ball, brings 2nd leg into play and gets sent off. Just no control in the tackle at all.
I agree, Coote handled it well, calm, with authority.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Hendo on Wed 09 Sep 2020 19:24
League A - Group 4
6 September 2020, 20:45 CET - Basel (St. Jakob's Park)
Switzerland - Germany
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Andrew Madley (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sándor Piller (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Georg Lüchinger (LIE)

Good display from Oliver. Never in any danger, two well controlled and well managed teams. Fitness excellent, good judgement, nothing to flashy!!

Top ref, Englands best by a country mile 👍🏻
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: tomp on Wed 07 Oct 2020 09:31
League C - Group 1
10 October 2020, 15:00 CET - City of Luxembourg (Stade Josy Barthel)
Luxembourg - Cyprus
Referee: Donald Robertson (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Graeme Stewart (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Douglas Ross (SCO)
Fourth Official: Andrew Dallas (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefan Messner (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Roland Tis (BEL)

League C - Group 1
10 October 2020, 15:00 CET - Podgorica (Gradski Stadion)
Montenegro - Azerbaijan
Referee: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoechea (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Roberto Díaz Pérez Del Palomar (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Pau Cebrián Devís (ESP)
Fourth Official: Javier Estrada Fernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Pascal Garibian (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Igor Radojičić (SRB)

League D - Group 1
10 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Tórshavn (Tórsvřllur)
Faroe Islands - Latvia
Referee: Ivaylo Stoyanov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 1: Ivo Kolev (BUL)
Assistant Referee 2: Pavlin Mihaylov (BUL)
Fourth Official: Dragomir Draganov (BUL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Markus Strömbergsson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Veiko Soo (EST)

League D - Group 2
10 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Vaduz (Rheinpark Stadion)
Liechtenstein - Gibraltar
Referee: Kirill Levnikov (RUS)
Assistant Referee 1: Egor Bolkhovitin (RUS)
Assistant Referee 2: Dmitri Mosyakin (RUS)
Fourth Official: Vladislav Bezborodov (RUS)
UEFA Referee Observer: Dejan Filipović (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Christian Mutschler (SUI)

League D - Group 1
10 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Andorra La Vella (Estadi Nacional)
Andorra - Malta
Referee: Alain Durieux (LUX)
Assistant Referee 1: Gilles François Becker (LUX)
Assistant Referee 2: Joaquim Da Silva (LUX)
Fourth Official: Ricardo Morais (LUX)
UEFA Referee Observer: Joăo Francisco Lopes Ferreira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Aristeidis Stavropoulos (GRE)

League A - Group 4
10 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Kyiv (NSK Olimpiyskiy)
Ukraine - Germany
Referee: Orel Grinfeld (ISR)
Assistant Referee 1: Roi Hassan (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: Idan Yarkoni (ISR)
Fourth Official: Gal Leibovitz (ISR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Elmir Pilav (BIH)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Řepka (CZE)

League A - Group 4
10 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Madrid (Estadio Alfredo di Stéfano)
Spain - Switzerland
Referee: Ali Palabıyık (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Serkan Olguncan (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Çem Satman (TUR)
Fourth Official: Arda Kardeşler (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Drago Kos (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Róbert Agnarsson (ISL)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Wed 07 Oct 2020 11:53
Nice to see Levnikov with a game. Seen him a couple of times in Hungary over the past year or 2 and he was decent in both games. Looks to be a good talent coming through.

Hoping for someone strong on the Serbia v Hungary game - it is likely to be a bit feisty with the history between the 2 countries!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Wed 07 Oct 2020 16:00
Nice to see a few 2nd Group referees with appointments.

Excellent appointment for Palabiyik. UEFA seems to have big plans for him.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Wed 07 Oct 2020 19:04
Nice to see a few 2nd Group referees with appointments.

Excellent appointment for Palabiyik. UEFA seems to have big plans for him.

Big shoes to fill when Cakir departs the scene....
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: tomp on Thu 08 Oct 2020 10:00
League A - Group 1
11 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Zenica (Stadion Bilino polje)
Bosnia and Herzegovina - Netherlands
Referee: Sergei Karasev (RUS)
Assistant Referee 1: Igor Demeshko (RUS)
Assistant Referee 2: Maksim Gavrilin (RUS)
Fourth Official: Sergei Ivanov (RUS)
UEFA Referee Observer: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Depi Koxenoglou (GRE)

League A - Group 2
11 October 2020, 18:00 CET - London (Wembley Stadium)
England - Belgium
Referee: Tobias Stieler (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Mike Pickel (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
Fourth Official: Christian Dingert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Per Svärd (SWE)

League A - Group 3
11 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Zagreb (Stadion Maksimir)
Croatia - Sweden
Referee: John Beaton (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Douglas Potter (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Daniel McFarlane (SCO)
Fourth Official: Steven McLean (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stavros Tritsonis (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Vasco Dojcinovski (MKD)

League A - Group 1
11 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Gdansk (Gdansk Stadium)
Poland - Italy
Referee: José María Sánchez Martínez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Ińigo Prieto López de Ceraín (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Diego Barbero Sevilla (ESP)
Fourth Official: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kyros Vassaras (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Tarik Shamel (ENG)

League A - Group 2
11 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Reykjavik (Laugardalsvöllur)
Iceland - Denmark
Referee: Bojan Pandžić (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Daniel Gustavsson (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Peter Magnusson (SWE)
Fourth Official: Adam Ladebäck (SWE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Costas Kapitanis (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Philippe Prudhon (FRA)

League A - Group 3
11 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Saint-Denis (Stade de France)
France - Portugal
Referee: Carlos del Cerro Grande (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Juan Carlos Yuste Jiménez,(ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Alonso Fernández (ESP)
Fourth Official: Guillermo Cuadra Fernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Ray Ellingham (WAL)
UEFA Delegate: Sviatlana Hrynkevich (BLR)

League B - Group 4
11 October 2020, 15:00 CET - Dublin (Dublin Arena)
Republic of Ireland - Wales
Referee: Anastasios Sidiropoulos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 1: Polychronis Kostaras (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Lazaros Dimitriadis (GRE)
Fourth Official: Anastasios Papapetrou (GRE)
UEFA Referee Observer: David Malcolm (NIR)
UEFA Delegate: Crawford Wilson (NIR)

League B - Group 1
11 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Oslo (Ullevaal Stadion)
Norway - Romania
Referee: Ivan Kružliak (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaš Somolani (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Branislav Hancko (SVK)
Fourth Official: Filip Glova (SVK)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jouni Hyytiä (FIN)
UEFA Delegate: Oleg Harlamov (EST)

League B - Group 4
11 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Helsinki (Helsinki Olympic Stadium)
Finland - Bulgaria
Referee: Erik Lambrechts (BEL)
Assistant Referee 1: Rien Vanyzere (BEL)
Assistant Referee 2: Jo de Weirdt (BEL)
Fourth Official: Nathan Verboomen (BEL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Ingvarsson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Robert Kispal (HUN)

League B - Group 1
11 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Belfast (Windsor Park)
Northern Ireland - Austria
Referee:  Petr Ardeleanu (CZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Ivo Nadvornik (CZE)
Assistant Referee 2: Jiří Moláček (CZE)
Fourth Official: Karel Hrubes (CZE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Medved (SVK)
UEFA Delegate: Jeroen Roest (NED)

League B - Group 2
11 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Haifa (Sammy Ofer Stadium)
Israel - Czech Republic
Referee: Tiago Martins (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Luis Campos (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Almeida (POR)
Fourth Official: Helder Malheiro (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Volodymyr Petrov (UKR)
UEFA Delegate: Siarhei Ilyich (BLR)

League B - Group 2
11 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Glasgow (Hampden Park)
Scotland - Slovakia
Referee:  Davide Massa (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Stefano Alassio (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Alberto Tegoni (ITA)
Fourth Official: Fabio Maresca (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Hansson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Oskam (NED)

League B - Group 3
11 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Belgrade (Stadion Rajko Mitić)
Serbia - Hungary
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Stéphane de Almeida (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Jonas Erni (SUI)
Fourth Official: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Konrad Plautz (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Anna Kapasoglou (GRE)

League B - Group 3
11 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Moscow (Dynamo Central Stadium)
Russia - Turkey
Referee: Matej Jug (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Matej Žunič (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Grega Kordež (SVN)
Fourth Official: Nejc Kajtazović (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vadims Direktorenko (LVA)
UEFA Delegate: Olzhas Abrayev (KAZ)

League C - Group 4
11 October 2020, 15:00 CET - Almaty (Almaty Ortalyk Stadion)
Kazakhstan - Albania
Referee: Tamás Bognar (HUN)
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Buzás (HUN)
Assistant Referee 2: Péter Kóbor (HUN)
Fourth Official: Gergo Bogár (HUN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Gylfi Ţor Orrason (ISL)
UEFA Delegate: Leonid Kaloshin (RUS)

League C - Group 2
11 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Tallinn (Lilleküla Stadium)
Estonia - North Macedonia
Referee: Mohammed Al-Hakim (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Fredrik Klyver (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Mikael Hallin (SWE)
Fourth Official: Glenn Nyberg (SWE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Matteo Simone Trefoloni (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Diana Andersen (DEN)

League C - Group 2
11 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Tychy (Tychy Stadium)
Armenia - Georgia
Referee: Ivan Bebek (CRO)
Assistant Referee 1: Goran Pataki (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Bojan Zobenica (CRO)
Fourth Official: Igor Pajač (CRO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Pavel Saliy (KAZ)
UEFA Delegate: Elena Kobak (RUS)

League C - Group 4
11 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Vilnius (LFF Stadionas)
Lithuania - Belarus
Referee: Julian Weinberger (AUT)
Assistant Referee 1: Andreas Heidenreich (AUT)
Assistant Referee 2: Maximilian Kolbitsch (AUT)
Fourth Official: Josef Spurny (AUT)
UEFA Referee Observer: Gevorg Hovhannisyan (ARM)
UEFA Delegate: Björn Fecker (GER)

League C - Group 3
11 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Prishtina (Stadiumi Fadil Vokrri)
Kosovo - Slovenia
Referee: Andrew Madley (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Dan Cook (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Constantine Hatzidakis (ENG)
Fourth Official: Paul Tierney (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Fritz Stuchlik (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Emmanuelle Puttaert (BEL)

League C - Group 3
11 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Athens (Olympic Athletic Center of Athens "Spyros Louis")
Greece - Moldova
Referee: Dennis Higler (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Bas van Dongen (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Jan de Vries (NED)
Fourth Official: Siemen Mulder (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: William Young (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Scilla Gennaro (ITA)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Thu 08 Oct 2020 16:18
Del Cerro Grande with the stand out tie. Greek team for the Irish game and a debut for Madley.

Sanchez Martínez with an important observer. 
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Thu 08 Oct 2020 16:20
New referee for me to watch.

I have press tickets for tonight and the weekend but the travel is just too nightmarish so have decided to watch M4 sports instead!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Thu 08 Oct 2020 18:00
New referee for me to watch.

I have press tickets for tonight and Thursday but the travel is just too nightmarish so have decided to watch M4 sports instead!

Schärer is considered the best Swiss referee and a future Elite. He is on the committee's radar since last year and had some important observers (Vassaras and Fandel).
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Thu 08 Oct 2020 19:46
New referee for me to watch.

I have press tickets for tonight and Thursday but the travel is just too nightmarish so have decided to watch M4 sports instead!

Schärer is considered the best Swiss referee and a future Elite. He is on the committee's radar since last year and had some important observers (Vassaras and Fandel).

Followed by Plautz this week.....
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Fri 09 Oct 2020 17:14
League A - Group 1
11 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Zenica (Stadion Bilino polje)
Bosnia and Herzegovina - Netherlands
Referee: Sergei Karasev (RUS) István Kovács (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Igor Demeshko (RUS) Mihai Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Maksim Gavrilin (RUS) Valentin Gabriel Avram (ROU)
Fourth Official: Sergei Ivanov (RUS)
UEFA Referee Observer: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Depi Koxenoglou (GRE)

League C - Group 4
11 October 2020, 15:00 CET - Almaty (Almaty Ortalyk Stadion)
Kazakhstan - Albania
Referee: Tamás Bognar (HUN) Dumitri Muntean (MDA)
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Buzás (HUN) Andrei Bodean (MDA)
Assistant Referee 2: Péter Kóbor (HUN) Vasili Ermischin (MDA)
Fourth Official: Gergo Bogár (HUN) [/s]Veaceslav Banari (MDA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Gylfi Ţor Orrason (ISL)
UEFA Delegate: Leonid Kaloshin (RUS) Ilona Tkach (BLR)

Karasev and Bognar have been replaced. Not sure of the reasons.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Fri 09 Oct 2020 18:16
League A - Group 1
11 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Zenica (Stadion Bilino polje)
Bosnia and Herzegovina - Netherlands
Referee: Sergei Karasev (RUS) István Kovács (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Igor Demeshko (RUS) Mihai Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Maksim Gavrilin (RUS) Valentin Gabriel Avram (ROU)
Fourth Official: Sergei Ivanov (RUS)
UEFA Referee Observer: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Depi Koxenoglou (GRE)

League C - Group 4
11 October 2020, 15:00 CET - Almaty (Almaty Ortalyk Stadion)
Kazakhstan - Albania
Referee: Tamás Bognar (HUN) Dumitri Muntean (MDA)
Assistant Referee 1: Balázs Buzás (HUN) Andrei Bodean (MDA)
Assistant Referee 2: Péter Kóbor (HUN) Vasili Ermischin (MDA)
Fourth Official: Gergo Bogár (HUN) [/s]Veaceslav Banari (MDA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Gylfi Ţor Orrason (ISL)
UEFA Delegate: Leonid Kaloshin (RUS) Ilona Tkach (BLR)

Karasev and Bognar have been replaced. Not sure of the reasons.

Possible reason for Bognár being replaced

Hopefully focibiro are well off the mark with this one - http://focibiro.hu/cikk.php?id=10618

Quote
The news is spreading like wildfire among the national frame members that there are 15 positive covidian referees in the NB frame, while another 5 referees are waiting for the result.
In the case, we contacted the MLSZ press department to see what precautions were taken to protect the referees.

As soon as the answer arrives, we will update our article.

I'm assuming they are including the NBII and NBII because there are only 16 referees in the NBI! Very concerning if there is any truth in it. Not sure what to make of it really, they are normally pretty good with articles and info but they are very anti Mr Puhl and sometimes it can cloud their judgement slightly.

As for Karasev... I'll play nice - there is now a decent referee on that game! ;)


It is possibly travel restrictions regarding Russia as the UEFA delegate has also been replaced.  Could be the same for Hungary, the borders remain closed overall and there is a spike in positive covid19 tests. Football is badly infected at the moment with the majority of clubs having reduced squads.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: tomp on Sat 10 Oct 2020 10:14
League A - Group 4
13 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Zenica (Stadion Bilino polje)
Ukraine - Spain
Referee: Paweł Gil (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Konrad Sapela (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Marcin Borkowski (POL)
Fourth Official: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefano Podeschi (SMR)
UEFA Delegate: Konul Mehtiyeva (AZE)

League A - Group 4
13 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Cologne (Müngersdorfer Stadion)
Germany - Switzerland
Referee: Ruddy Buquet (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Guillaume Debart (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Benjamin Pagčs (FRA)
Fourth Official: Amaury Delerue (FRA) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Liba (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Lundström (FIN)

League C - Group 1
13 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Elbasan (Elbasan Arena)
Azerbaijan - Cyprus
Referee: Fran Jović (CRO)
Assistant Referee 1: Ivica Modrić (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Hrvoje Radić (CRO)
Fourth Official: Ivan Vučković (CRO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Karel Vidlák (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: David McDowell Zor (SVN)

League C - Group 1
13 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Podgorica (Gradski Stadion)
Montenegro - Luxembourg
Referee: Sascha Stegemann (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Stefan Lupp (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Dominik Schaal (GER)
Fourth Official: Bastian Dankert (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nikolai Levnikov (RUS)
UEFA Delegate: Natalia Varabyova (BLR)

League D - Group 1
13 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Riga (Daugava)
Latvia - Malta
Referee: Iwan Arwel Griffith (WAL)
Assistant Referee 1: Lewiss Edwards (WAL)
Assistant Referee 2: Ian Bird (WAL)
Fourth Official: Robert Ian Jenkins (WAL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Domagoj Vučkov (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Kimmo J. Lipponen (FIN)

League D - Group 1
13 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Tórshavn (Tórsvřllur)
Faroe Islands - Andorra
Referee: Antti Munukka (FIN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan-Peter Aravirta (FIN)
Assistant Referee 2: Jukka Honkanen (FIN)
Fourth Official: Kaarlo Oskari Hämäläinen (FIN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Andrejs Sipailo (LVA)
UEFA Delegate: Christian Welander (SWE)

League D - Group 2
13 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Vaduz (Rheinpark Stadion)
Liechtenstein - San Marino
Referee: Jřrgen Burchardt (DEN)
Assistant Referee 1: Dennis W. Rasmussen (DEN)
Assistant Referee 2: Niels Hoeg (DEN)
Fourth Official: Michael Tykgaard (DEN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jan W. Wegereef (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Kurt Zuppinger (SUI)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Sat 10 Oct 2020 16:14
Unexpected appointments in League A. Probably UKR-ESP needed an Elite referee.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: RCG on Sat 10 Oct 2020 17:34
I think it is a great opportunity to try these refs out on the "bigger" games, never as much pressure without the crowd.
If they cannot manage these games they wont cope when you put a baying audience back in.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Sat 10 Oct 2020 21:54
I think that it should be better to use younger referees and give them experience before a possible CL match.

Both Gil and Buquet are simply too old for the Elite Group.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: RCG on Sun 11 Oct 2020 09:05
I will bow to your much proven knowledge of European referees.
I thought Rossetti was trying out some different things but maybe not radical enough to give the new generation a chance
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: tomp on Sun 11 Oct 2020 09:26
League A - Group 1
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Wrocław (Stadion Miejski we Wrocławiu)
Poland - Bosnia and Herzegovina
Referee: Craig Pawson (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Lee Betts (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Ian Hussin (ENG)
Fourth Official: Stuart Attwell (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer:  Emil Bozhinovski (MKD)
UEFA Delegate: Kuanysh Kanapyanov (KAZ)

League A - Group 1
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Bergamo (Atalanta Stadium)
Italy - Netherlands
Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Francesco Bianchi (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Dervishaj Nelaj (ESP)

League A - Group 2
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - London (Wembley Stadium)
England - Denmark
Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero Sevilla (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Ángel Nevado Rodríguez (ESP)
Fourth Official: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Tomasz Mikulski (POL)
UEFA Delegate: Patrik Filipek (CZE)

League A - Group 2
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Reykjavik (Laugardalsvöllur)
Iceland - Belgium
Referee: Vitali Meshkov (RUS)
Assistant Referee 1: Aleksei Lunev (RUS)
Assistant Referee 2: Dmitry Safyan (RUS)
Fourth Official: Sergei Lapochkin (RUS)
UEFA Referee Observer: Ichko Lozev (BUL)
UEFA Delegate: Peadar Ryan (IRL)

League A - Group 3
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Zagreb (Stadion Maksimir)
Croatia - France
Referee: Björn Kuipers (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Sander van Roekel (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Erwin Zeinstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Serdar Gözübüyük (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Iain Blair (SCO)

League A - Group 3
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Lisbon (Estádio José Alvalade)
Portugal - Sweden
Referee: Srdjan Jovanović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Novak Simović (SRB)
UEFA Referee Observer: Luis Medina Cantalejo (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Duncan Fraser (SCO)

League B - Group 4
14 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Helsinki (Olympic Stadium)
Finland - Republic of Ireland
Referee: Lionel Tschudi (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Sladan Josipović (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Matthias Sbrissa (SUI)
Fourth Official: Lukas Fähndrich (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marian Ružbarský (SVK)
UEFA Delegate: Michal Mertinyák (SVK)

League B - Group 1
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Oslo (Ullevaal Stadion)
Norway - Northern Ireland
Referee: Kristo Tohver (EST)
Assistant Referee 1: Silver Koiv (EST)
Assistant Referee 2: Aron Härsing (EST)
Fourth Official: Juri Frischer (EST)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michalis Argyrou (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Michalis Mitas (CYP)

League B - Group 1
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Ploiești (Stadionul Ilie Oană)
Romania - Austria
Referee: Daniel Stefański (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Marcin Boniek (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Dawid Igor Golis (POL)
Fourth Official: Damian Sylwestrzak (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Milan Karadžić (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Sabine Bonnin (FRA)

League B - Group 2
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Glasgow (Hampden Park)
Scotland - Czech Republic
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Thorsten Schiffner (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Harm Osmers (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stephen Lodge (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Boris Stankov (BUL)

League B - Group 2
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Trnava (City Arena)
Slovakia - Israel
Referee: Alejandro José Hernández Hernández (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: José Naranjo Pérez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Teodoro Sobrino Magán (ESP)
Fourth Official: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoechea (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Edward Foley (IRL)
UEFA Delegate: Michael O'Brien (ENG)

League B - Group 3
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Istanbul (Ali Sami Yen Spor Kompleksi)
Turkey - Serbia
Referee: Georgi Kabakov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 1: Martin Margaritov (BUL)
Assistant Referee 2: Diyan Valkov (BUL)
Fourth Official: Nikola Popov (BUL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nicola Rizzoli (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Ciprian Paraschiv (ROU)

League B - Group 3
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Moscow (Dynamo Central Stadium)
Russia - Hungary
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: David Coote (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Antonov (MDA)
UEFA Delegate: Sergiu Lisnic (MDA)

League B - Group 4
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Sofia (Natsionalen Stadion Vasil Levski)
Bulgaria - Wales
Referee: Aliyar Aghayev (AZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Akif Amirali (AZE)
Assistant Referee 2: Zeynal Zeynalov (AZE)
Fourth Official: Rahim Hasanov (AZE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sokol Jareci (ALB)
UEFA Delegate: Vladimiras Buzmakovas (LTU)

League C - Group 4
14 October 2020, 18:00 CET - Vilnius (LFF Stadionas)
Lithuania - Albania
Referee: Karim Abed (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA)
Fourth Official: Florent Batta (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jon Skjervold (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Pavel Kolev (BUL)

League C - Group 2
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Skopje (National Arena Todor Proeski)
North Macedonia - Georgia
Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Jakub Winkler (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Marek Arys (POL)
Fourth Official: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Karen Nalbandyan (ARM)
UEFA Delegate: Kejdi Tomorri (ALB)

League C - Group 2
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Tallinn (Lilleküla Stadium)
Estonia - Armenia
Referee: Luis Godinho (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Rui Teixeira (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Hugo Andre Pires Ribeiro (POR)
Fourth Official: André Narciso (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Iain Robertson Brines (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Ginta Pece (LVA)

League C - Group 3
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET -  Chişinău (Stadionul Zimbru)
Moldova - Slovenia
Referee: Joăo Pinheiro (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Tiago José Pereira Costa (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Pedro Ribeiro (POR)
Fourth Official: Gustavo Fernandes Correia (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Peter Sippel (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Yurii Barbash (UKR)

League C - Group 3
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Athens (Olympic Athletic Center "Spyros Louis")
Greece - Kosovo
Referee: Roi Reinshreiber (ISR)
Assistant Referee 1: Nati Dotan (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: Matityahu Yakobov (ISR)
Fourth Official: Eitan Shmuelevitz (ISR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Augustus Constantin (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Claude Runavot (FRA)

League C - Group 4
14 October 2020, 20:45 CET - Minsk (National Olympic Stadium Dinamo)
Belarus - Kazakhstan
Referee: Aleksandar Stavrev (MKD)
Assistant Referee 1: Dejan Kostadinov (MKD)
Assistant Referee 2: Goce Petreski (MKD)
Fourth Official: Dimitar Meckarovski (MKD)
UEFA Referee Observer: Asim Khudiyev (AZE)
UEFA Delegate: Eduard Kindle (LIE)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: RCG on Sun 11 Oct 2020 11:58
Mass Exodus this week from the English shores.
Happy bunny on South Coast?
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Sun 11 Oct 2020 13:07
An expected appointment for Pawson. However it doesn't change anything in terms of consideration by the committee. Experienced observer but not a very big name.

Taylor's appointment means that Rosetti was happy with his performance on the USC. And it confirms that in the eyes of UEFA Taylor is definitely on the "upper" Elite group.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Sun 11 Oct 2020 14:57
Mass Exodus this week from the English shores.
Happy bunny on South Coast?

Yes and No! 

Love him as a referee and he is certainly one of the best going, so in those terms yes.  I am however very harsh and unforgiving when it comes to the NT games! I have still not forgiven Clatts for his (perfectly correct) booking of Gera in the Norway v Hungary play off match on 12.11.2015 and may well have mentioned it to him (translate moaned at) once or twice (translate dozens of times) in the intervening years!

Whilst there is a rivalry between the teams, it's actually not particularly hostile, there is a tentative friendship between the countries these days and there's certainly not the hatred that you would perhaps expect in the still early years post occupation. There is a rather strange kinship between Hungary & Russia. I can understand an elite ref for the game though with history in mind but to be honest that would be more needed in a game v Romania and possibly Serbia. Without both sets of ultras there though the Serbia game should be less hostile. A Hungary v Romania game will always be off the charts in terms of toxicity, the hatred runs deep.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sun 11 Oct 2020 17:32
An expected appointment for Pawson. However it doesn't change anything in terms of consideration by the committee. Experienced observer but not a very big name.

Taylor's appointment means that Rosetti was happy with his performance on the USC. And it confirms that in the eyes of UEFA Taylor is definitely on the "upper" Elite group.

It was about time there were a few English teams floating around Europe.

It’s disappointing that Taylor is still seen as the number one in UEFA’s eyes. Had Oliver had an important observer then there could have still be a chance for that ideology to change, but it seems it’s set in stone.

Incidentally, is Florent Batta the son of Marc Batta?
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: ajb95 on Sun 11 Oct 2020 20:50
An expected appointment for Pawson. However it doesn't change anything in terms of consideration by the committee. Experienced observer but not a very big name.

Taylor's appointment means that Rosetti was happy with his performance on the USC. And it confirms that in the eyes of UEFA Taylor is definitely on the "upper" Elite group.

Incidentally, is Florent Batta the son of Marc Batta?

I believe so
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Sun 11 Oct 2020 21:29
An expected appointment for Pawson. However it doesn't change anything in terms of consideration by the committee. Experienced observer but not a very big name.

Taylor's appointment means that Rosetti was happy with his performance on the USC. And it confirms that in the eyes of UEFA Taylor is definitely on the "upper" Elite group.

Incidentally, is Florent Batta the son of Marc Batta?

Yes, he is.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Sun 11 Oct 2020 21:57
New referee for me to watch.

I have press tickets for tonight and Thursday but the travel is just too nightmarish so have decided to watch M4 sports instead!

Schärer is considered the best Swiss referee and a future Elite. He is on the committee's radar since last year and had some important observers (Vassaras and Fandel).

I can see why he is highly regarded. Barely noticed him tonight. 2 big calls, pen shout for each team, neither given & I think he was correct with both. Fitness excellent, movement around the pitch excellent, man management superb, a few yellow cards, mostly for Hungarian players, that were correct calls imo. Good game to watch, even better result! Bring on the Ruskik!

PS He wore blue, which is always a bonus with Missy bmb and was also rather handsome!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 12 Oct 2020 10:10
New referee for me to watch.

I have press tickets for tonight and Thursday but the travel is just too nightmarish so have decided to watch M4 sports instead!

Schärer is considered the best Swiss referee and a future Elite. He is on the committee's radar since last year and had some important observers (Vassaras and Fandel).

I can see why he is highly regarded. Barely noticed him tonight. 2 big calls, pen shout for each team, neither given & I think he was correct with both. Fitness excellent, movement around the pitch excellent, man management superb, a few yellow cards, mostly for Hungarian players, that were correct calls imo. Good game to watch, even better result! Bring on the Ruskik!

PS He wore blue, which is always a bonus with Missy bmb and was also rather handsome!

Oliver to wear yellow next then haha.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ashington46 on Mon 12 Oct 2020 11:28
New referee for me to watch.

I have press tickets for tonight and Thursday but the travel is just too nightmarish so have decided to watch M4 sports instead!

Schärer is considered the best Swiss referee and a future Elite. He is on the committee's radar since last year and had some important observers (Vassaras and Fandel).

I can see why he is highly regarded. Barely noticed him tonight. 2 big calls, pen shout for each team, neither given & I think he was correct with both. Fitness excellent, movement around the pitch excellent, man management superb, a few yellow cards, mostly for Hungarian players, that were correct calls imo. Good game to watch, even better result! Bring on the Ruskik!

PS He wore blue, which is always a bonus with Missy bmb and was also rather handsome!

Oliver to wear yellow next then haha.

He does suit yellow though!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Mon 12 Oct 2020 11:44
New referee for me to watch.

I have press tickets for tonight and Thursday but the travel is just too nightmarish so have decided to watch M4 sports instead!

Schärer is considered the best Swiss referee and a future Elite. He is on the committee's radar since last year and had some important observers (Vassaras and Fandel).

I can see why he is highly regarded. Barely noticed him tonight. 2 big calls, pen shout for each team, neither given & I think he was correct with both. Fitness excellent, movement around the pitch excellent, man management superb, a few yellow cards, mostly for Hungarian players, that were correct calls imo. Good game to watch, even better result! Bring on the Ruskik!

PS He wore blue, which is always a bonus with Missy bmb and was also rather handsome!

Oliver to wear yellow next then haha.

He does suit yellow though!

The only things that suit yellow are a banana, melon, lemon, flowers and anything mother nature determined to use it for. That big yellow ball in the sky us southern softies often see is also fine! On anything man or machine made - it is not!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ashington46 on Mon 12 Oct 2020 12:41
New referee for me to watch.

I have press tickets for tonight and Thursday but the travel is just too nightmarish so have decided to watch M4 sports instead!

Schärer is considered the best Swiss referee and a future Elite. He is on the committee's radar since last year and had some important observers (Vassaras and Fandel).

I can see why he is highly regarded. Barely noticed him tonight. 2 big calls, pen shout for each team, neither given & I think he was correct with both. Fitness excellent, movement around the pitch excellent, man management superb, a few yellow cards, mostly for Hungarian players, that were correct calls imo. Good game to watch, even better result! Bring on the Ruskik!

PS He wore blue, which is always a bonus with Missy bmb and was also rather handsome!

Oliver to wear yellow next then haha.

He does suit yellow though!

The only things that suit yellow are a banana, melon, lemon, flowers and anything mother nature determined to use it for. That big yellow ball in the sky us southern softies often see is also fine! On anything man or machine made - it is not!

bmb --you need to go and sit in the stand at Norwich some time when you can---you may get used to it ------but don't upset the locals!  :D
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: carrowman on Mon 12 Oct 2020 17:09
New referee for me to watch.

I have press tickets for tonight and Thursday but the travel is just too nightmarish so have decided to watch M4 sports instead!

Schärer is considered the best Swiss referee and a future Elite. He is on the committee's radar since last year and had some important observers (Vassaras and Fandel).

I can see why he is highly regarded. Barely noticed him tonight. 2 big calls, pen shout for each team, neither given & I think he was correct with both. Fitness excellent, movement around the pitch excellent, man management superb, a few yellow cards, mostly for Hungarian players, that were correct calls imo. Good game to watch, even better result! Bring on the Ruskik!

PS He wore blue, which is always a bonus with Missy bmb and was also rather handsome!

Oliver to wear yellow next then haha.

He does suit yellow though!

The only things that suit yellow are a banana, melon, lemon, flowers and anything mother nature determined to use it for. That big yellow ball in the sky us southern softies often see is also fine! On anything man or machine made - it is not!

bmb --you need to go and sit in the stand at Norwich some time when you can---you may get used to it ------but don't upset the lmore ocals!  :D

At least you would be able to see a "nice" yellow, much better than say  Watford's yellow or Oxford's yellow  :)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Mon 12 Oct 2020 18:30
Karasev and Bognar have been replaced. Not sure of the reasons.

Bognár it has now been confirmed it is Covid related. It's not been confirmed that he himself is covid positive just that the match officials and players in the ZTE v Honvéd game were exposed to covid19. It doesn't even confirm it's player/staff or match officials who has tested positive but Theodoros Georgio was also taken off the U21 game he was on as well. They were both on the match officials team on the ZTE game, none of the other officials listed with Bognár above were.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Wed 14 Oct 2020 19:48
Not sure about Gil Manzano in pink tonight....
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: DBLTFC on Wed 14 Oct 2020 20:27
Anyone care to explain what the penalty was given for in the England game?

And why do refs have the silly mannerisms - he almost sent Maguire off before the tackle was even made!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Wed 14 Oct 2020 20:29

Oliver to wear yellow next then haha.




He does suit yellow though!

He has had the common sense to wear blue.

Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Wed 14 Oct 2020 20:30
Not sure about Gil Manzano in pink tonight....

Another sugar plum fairy like Mr Pawson
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:43
Happy bunny on South Coast?

Yes and No! 

Yes!!

Might as well have not been there, didn't notice him & he was rarely needed.  Couple of deserved bookings for Hungary players for ahem forceful tackles!  Just for the fun of it as it didn't feel right not doing so I did yell at him long and hard about booking Fiola and that he should have booked the Russian player for diving!!! I chose to ignore the fact that Fiola arrived at the player 5 mins after he'd passed the ball to a teammate and that he took him out so much so his legs were at right angles to each other! Absolute bang on the money booking but I had to yell at him for something ya know! ;)  ;D
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:44
Not sure about Gil Manzano in pink tonight....

Another sugar plum fairy like Mr Pawson

Who had his red card out as well tonight... 14 minutes in.

Another card happy show from Gil Manzano....
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:55
Not sure about Gil Manzano in pink tonight....

Another sugar plum fairy like Mr Pawson

Who had his red card out as well tonight... 14 minutes in.

Another card happy show from Gil Manzano....

Correct call from Craig from what I gather. DOGSO red.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ashington46 on Wed 14 Oct 2020 21:58
Not sure about Gil Manzano in pink tonight....

Another sugar plum fairy like Mr Pawson

Who had his red card out as well tonight... 14 minutes in.

Another card happy show from Gil Manzano....

Correct call from Craig from what I gather. DOGSO red.

Modern game --everything as expected --sadly!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Wed 14 Oct 2020 22:06
Apparently Russia are upset about a handball decision in the 57th min and have asked for Oliver to be made to take a lie detector test before being allowed to leave the country - info from a ordinarily very accurate member of the press so concerning. Surely if the Russian Fed try this the UEFA delegate will step in and say they do not have the authority to do so.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ashington46 on Wed 14 Oct 2020 22:20
Apparently Russia are upset about a handball decision in the 57th min and have asked for Oliver to be made to take a lie detector test before being allowed to leave the country - info from a ordinarily very accurate member of the press so concerning. Surely if the Russian Fed try this the UEFA delegate will step in and say they do not have the authority to do so.

What is football coming to? I can go and give a character reference if needed and I'll bring his dad with me! Absolutely amazing and UEFA should kick the Russians  into touch!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: ajb95 on Wed 14 Oct 2020 22:50
Apparently Russia are upset about a handball decision in the 57th min and have asked for Oliver to be made to take a lie detector test before being allowed to leave the country - info from a ordinarily very accurate member of the press so concerning. Surely if the Russian Fed try this the UEFA delegate will step in and say they do not have the authority to do so.

What is football coming to? I can go and give a character reference if needed and I'll bring his dad with me! Absolutely amazing and UEFA should kick the Russians  into touch!

I would go so far as to say kick them out of the tournament!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Wed 14 Oct 2020 22:58
Apparently Russia are upset about a handball decision in the 57th min and have asked for Oliver to be made to take a lie detector test before being allowed to leave the country - info from a ordinarily very accurate member of the press so concerning. Surely if the Russian Fed try this the UEFA delegate will step in and say they do not have the authority to do so.

What is football coming to? I can go and give a character reference if needed and I'll bring his dad with me! Absolutely amazing and UEFA should kick the Russians  into touch!

I find it scandalous enough that they are allowed to subject their own referees to this but if this turns out to be correct info then for me it is a line too far being crossed. Hopefully it was just bluster on part of the federation in reaction to failing to beat the 'unworthy Magyars' on home soil and they will actually think about how ridiculous it is, take a step back and not pursue this.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ref Fan on Wed 14 Oct 2020 23:02
Do you recall the incident the Russians are complaining about bmb?  There was nothing in your earlier comments to suggest there was major controversy.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Thu 15 Oct 2020 00:07
Do you recall the incident the Russians are complaining about bmb?  There was nothing in your earlier comments to suggest there was major controversy.

I have no idea what they are talking about. No incidents of surrounding the ref protesting loudly against something not given, no countless replays on the Hungarian sports channel so it surprised me. The Fiola tackle I think it was 15 times we saw that on replay with our commentators sucking in their breath and saying what a bad boy Fiola had been so even if I missed it in real time the replays would have caught my attention. Have asked my media contacts there to send me footage of it but no response from them yet.  I did remark to Tünde at the final whistle that Marco Rossi, shared a laugh with Michael Oliver at the end, something I have never really seen him do before. I don't recall any such incident and nor do any of the Hungarian media guys I have spoken to about this. Our TV guys are pretty good with highlighting incidents fairly - I've even checked on the anti referee media website to see if they mention it & they don't.  Heard from 3 different sources there now about the protest though, 1 guy who is on the board of directors at one of the big clubs & 2 journos, both well known there & normally accurate.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: RCG on Thu 15 Oct 2020 07:15
Maybe the Russians would like to put their forward line through same process to see why they only had one shot on target?
Or maybe the truth is theyre not very good?
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Thu 15 Oct 2020 13:46
Maybe the Russians would like to put their forward line through same process to see why they only had one shot on target?
Or maybe the truth is theyre not very good?

Doesn't fit with the Russian native that all referees are corrupt & the only corruption in football is via them!

Still no footage from my friends in Russia! Waiting for our sports channel to upload the game so I can look and see if I did miss something. No further feedback on a lie detector test, just a comment of clear mistake, missed penalty and YC oh and that he prefers gulyás to borscht! I did reply to that one who doesn't! ;)

I really don't know how any referees can work in those types of conditions - we moan over here but it's a completely different level of insanity there.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ref Fan on Thu 15 Oct 2020 14:21
"No further feedback on a lie detector test, just a comment of clear mistake, missed penalty and YC"

Sorry bmb, I'm not clear who's making that comment - Russia, Journalists, U.E.F.A. ?

I found a couple of summaries or 'as it happens' reports of the match and could find no reference to controversy.  Very strange.
If there was a 'missed penalty', I can't believe it would be as bad as the one awarded to Denmark in the England game.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Thu 15 Oct 2020 15:20
"No further feedback on a lie detector test, just a comment of clear mistake, missed penalty and YC"

Sorry bmb, I'm not clear who's making that comment - Russia, Journalists, U.E.F.A. ?


Sorry Ref Fan my unclear writing - I meant from the journalists I have been speaking with. They are the same guys who have told me many times of the time, date, place, who will be present etc for the ones the Russian refs have been subjected too and the results, well before they become public & have always been spot on with their info. One of them was quite concerned when he phoned me last night, he'd just come out of the post match briefing with the Russia manager & members of the Russian Federation & was concerned the effect of them pushing for this would have on Russia as a whole. He's been calling me between meetings keeping me updated but hasn't mentioned a lie detector test taking place. Via him I gather the Russian Federation have concluded there was a clear error and that was their basis for wanting a lie detector test.

Like you say nothing in any summary reports and I have been racking my brain trying to think of an incident.  I've spoken to about 10 Hungarian press guys, some of who were there, others who were watching the TV channel feed and none of them can remember anything happening as described by the Russians. Our TV guys might not be so good at getting decent angles but they're very good at doing replays of incidents and I don't recall any. Like I said above the Fiola tackle was replayed about 15 times and that was as stonewalled as they come, as our commentators pointed out, so they'd have done the same with anything controversial.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Thu 15 Oct 2020 16:08
Game is here but geoblocked so you will need a vpn

https://m4sport.hu/videok/uefa-labdarugo-nemzetek-ligaja-2020-oroszorszag-magyarorszag-merkozes

I've re-watched and not a clue what planet the Russians are on, there is nothing there!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ref Fan on Thu 15 Oct 2020 16:35
Many thanks for the update bmb.  I'm sure if there was anything untoward, you'd have spotted it, so hopefully we can conclude Michael Oliver had a decent game.
Anthony Taylor and Craig Pawson didn't have Russians to worry about but I trust their games went well too.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Thu 15 Oct 2020 16:45
This is what they are saying was a clear handball & pen.

The phrase clutching at straws springs to mind!

Personally I thought Mr Oliver was outstanding in the match.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Thu 15 Oct 2020 16:49
From the camera above
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ref Fan on Thu 15 Oct 2020 16:57
Well if that was the 57th minute incident, the 'as it happened' report just mentioned a shot being blocked.  Looks as if the player's arm was in front of his body with his back turned so can't believe it was making his body bigger at the moment the ball struck him.  And MO couldn't have had a better view! 

The Merseyside derby awaiting him might seem a light relief.

ps  Actually, that second shot isn't so clear cut but it's difficult to work out which direction the ball went after it struck the defender.
I guess you'd have to see it in real time or slo-mo to get a proper perspective.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Thu 15 Oct 2020 17:02
One more image & it still doesn't show contact.

My Russian man is telling me to not pause and because you can then see the deflection & I'm pointing out that any deflection is irrelevant without knowing the exact point of contact which is not necessarily his arm & they have not provided anything that clearly shows a handball!

Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ref Fan on Thu 15 Oct 2020 17:11
Looking at the angles, if the ball did strike the arm while it was outstretched, I suspect only the AR would get a view.

Did the Russians appeal strongly at the time?
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Thu 15 Oct 2020 18:11
Looking at the angles, if the ball did strike the arm while it was outstretched, I suspect only the AR would get a view.

Did the Russians appeal strongly at the time?

The Russian player who kicked the ball flung his arms up briefly, then put them onto his head and then carried on, all in the space of about 2 seconds - no-one else even made a murmur. 
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Thu 15 Oct 2020 19:03
The images are not conclusive but if the arm is outstretched then the body is becoming bigger. Difficult scene but I suspect that the UEFA observer will back Oliver here.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ashington46 on Thu 15 Oct 2020 19:13
The images are not conclusive but if the arm is outstretched then the body is becoming bigger. Difficult scene but I suspect that the UEFA observer will back Oliver here.

It seems that Oliver's positioning is as good as it could be, however, he would not be able to see whether or not the arm was extended because he can't see through the player. The AR should have seen it but perhaps thought that everything was normal. You can't give what you can't see ---or have they changed that these days?
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ref Fan on Thu 15 Oct 2020 20:34
But we still don't know for sure where and at what moment the ball struck the defender unless I've missed something.

Good point Ashington 46 about Oliver's restricted view.  From the first still picture, I had assumed the ball had hit the nearside of the defender to Oliver.
Look at the position of the Russian attackers  - I can't believe there wouldn't have been a strong and concerted appeal had the ball clearly struck the arm, and it evidently didn't occur to bmb anything was amiss.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: jad on Fri 16 Oct 2020 15:22
I have looked up various Russian media sites and even googled (in Russian) Oliver and 'lie detector', but have found nothing relevant.  Indeed, I found only one match report that even mentioned the hand-ball incident, and that merely noted that there was no VAR.   It is true that the Russians have a long and undistinguished tradition of conspiracy theories relating to adverse refereeing decisions: I once read a long and detailed explanation of why Graham Poll awarded a penalty against Russia in the closing stages of a World Cup qualifier; this worked only if you assumed that Mr Poll had an encyclopaedic knowledge of Russian politics.  On this occasion, however, I am inclined to think that the lie detector story is our old friend fake news. 
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Fri 16 Oct 2020 15:42
The Times today has a front page article on similar lines, although relating to the possible side-effects of the proposed Oxford Covid vaccine rather than any decisions made by Michael Oliver. If the Russians are to be believed, then we shall not have to worry about bailing out clubs in the EFL as there won't be such a League or anything else to do with football in the future!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ref Fan on Fri 16 Oct 2020 20:58
Difficult scene but I suspect that the UEFA observer will back Oliver here.

Well his first name is Vladimir but I hope you're right edy.  ???
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Fri 16 Oct 2020 23:38
Difficult scene but I suspect that the UEFA observer will back Oliver here.

Well his first name is Vladimir but I hope you're right edy.  ???

He's from Moldova where it is a fairly common name.  I doubt he would be allowed to be on the game if he is of ethnic Russian origin, same as Kovács István can't referee Hungary because although Romanian he is ethnic Hungarian. See history lesson below! ;)

History Lesson! Moldova was part of the USSR/a satellite nation of the USSR as was the majority of the Balkan region. Having originally been under the rule of the Ottoman empire, it was ceded to Russia in the early 1800. It had a spell where it joined with a neighbouring state to form Romania in the 1850's. Prior to the Trianon treaty it chose to become an autonomous state of Russia before declaring independence and rejoining with Romania a year or 2 later, before Trianon was signed. Russia disputed this and in 1940 it was returned to being a Russian state under some treaty or pact. It remained as part of the USSR until it fell in 1991 and has been independent since.  It has an ethnic Russian population as well as ethnic Romanian, Polish, Bulgarian, Ukrainian, Belarusian & German populations. It is on friendly terms with Russia but also with Hungary and I believe the majority of the Balkan region. It's a small, friendly & inoffensive country trying to find it's own way after a few short years of indepence. /End of history lesson!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ref Fan on Sat 17 Oct 2020 08:09
I always appreciate a history lesson bmb. ;D

Perhaps it was the mention of Russian politics that amused me when I saw the Observer's name, even though I did notice he was from Moldova. ;)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ashington46 on Sat 17 Oct 2020 09:56
Difficult scene but I suspect that the UEFA observer will back Oliver here.

Well his first name is Vladimir but I hope you're right edy.  ???

He's from Moldova where it is a fairly common name.  I doubt he would be allowed to be on the game if he is of ethnic Russian origin, same as Kovács István can't referee Hungary because although Romanian he is ethnic Hungarian. See history lesson below! ;)

History Lesson! Moldova was part of the USSR/a satellite nation of the USSR as was the majority of the Balkan region. Having originally been under the rule of the Ottoman empire, it was ceded to Russia in the early 1800. It had a spell where it joined with a neighbouring state to form Romania in the 1850's. Prior to the Trianon treaty it chose to become an autonomous state of Russia before declaring independence and rejoining with Romania a year or 2 later, before Trianon was signed. Russia disputed this and in 1940 it was returned to being a Russian state under some treaty or pact. It remained as part of the USSR until it fell in 1991 and has been independent since.  It has an ethnic Russian population as well as ethnic Romanian, Polish, Bulgarian, Ukrainian, Belarusian & German populations. It is on friendly terms with Russia but also with Hungary and I believe the majority of the Balkan region. It's a small, friendly & inoffensive country trying to find it's own way after a few short years of indepence. /End of history lesson!

Thanks for that bmb. Last year I became friendly with a Hungarian crew member on a cruise ship because of my love for languages and we were also both football fans. He was from a small village and he was explaining to me about the different languages which were spoken and how this affected the various inhabitants of the village. It sounded quite scary when he told me about the environment in which he had grown up.
Apologies for going off topic.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Sat 17 Oct 2020 11:54
Difficult scene but I suspect that the UEFA observer will back Oliver here.

Well his first name is Vladimir but I hope you're right edy.  ???

I find it quite strange that the observer has less refereeing experience than the referee he assesses. For example Antonov had only a few Qualifiers without a Group stage match on the (old) UEFA Cup. His experience today would classify him as a 3rd Group referee.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Sat 17 Oct 2020 13:18
Difficult scene but I suspect that the UEFA observer will back Oliver here.

Well his first name is Vladimir but I hope you're right edy.  ???

I find it quite strange that the observer has less refereeing experience than the referee he assesses. For example Antonov had only a few Qualifiers without a Group stage match on the (old) UEFA Cup. His experience today would classify him as a 3rd Group referee.

I suspect that is similar for a lot of the observers from the smaller nations, they have tended to be less higher profile than their bigger nation counterparts in part down to the difference in the levels of domestic football. It's why we all start at Group 3 and the bigger nations start at Group 2. I have observed at a higher level than I ever refereed at but I don't think that matters too much as long as you are good at your job and are empathetic, fair minded and honest. You either understand the pressures or you don't and if you do then you have the foresight needed to offer constructive criticism in keeping with those pressures.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Sat 17 Oct 2020 13:56
Difficult scene but I suspect that the UEFA observer will back Oliver here.

Well his first name is Vladimir but I hope you're right edy.  ???

He's from Moldova where it is a fairly common name.  I doubt he would be allowed to be on the game if he is of ethnic Russian origin, same as Kovács István can't referee Hungary because although Romanian he is ethnic Hungarian. See history lesson below! ;)

History Lesson! Moldova was part of the USSR/a satellite nation of the USSR as was the majority of the Balkan region. Having originally been under the rule of the Ottoman empire, it was ceded to Russia in the early 1800. It had a spell where it joined with a neighbouring state to form Romania in the 1850's. Prior to the Trianon treaty it chose to become an autonomous state of Russia before declaring independence and rejoining with Romania a year or 2 later, before Trianon was signed. Russia disputed this and in 1940 it was returned to being a Russian state under some treaty or pact. It remained as part of the USSR until it fell in 1991 and has been independent since.  It has an ethnic Russian population as well as ethnic Romanian, Polish, Bulgarian, Ukrainian, Belarusian & German populations. It is on friendly terms with Russia but also with Hungary and I believe the majority of the Balkan region. It's a small, friendly & inoffensive country trying to find it's own way after a few short years of indepence. /End of history lesson!

Thanks for that bmb. Last year I became friendly with a Hungarian crew member on a cruise ship because of my love for languages and we were also both football fans. He was from a small village and he was explaining to me about the different languages which were spoken and how this affected the various inhabitants of the village. It sounded quite scary when he told me about the environment in which he had grown up.
Apologies for going off topic.

The history and subsequent ethnic make up of all of the Balkan countries is fascinating. They have all been under one rule or another until the last 30 odd years whether it be the Ottoman Dynasty, Roman empire, or the USSR and various others in between and the borders have changed regularly leaving so many displaced groups across the region. Thankfully the borders are fairly stable now although there are still many border disputes alive! Each country has varying degrees of ethnic minorities from probably 4-5 of the surrounding countries, some integrate better than others. Hungary has a number of previously Germanic regions, including one area of Budapest. The further out you go near the borders the more diverse the ethnic make up can be, you can have a Germanic village, next door to a Croatian village and a Slovak village a few miles away, next door to a Romani (Roma not Romanian) village. Go 50 miles in the other direction and there can be a Serbian village near an Austrian village! Some still speak their ethnic languages, like the Hungarian ethnic populations in both Transylvania and Székely in Romania are Hungarian speakers for example. Some speak a mix of their ethnic language with the country they have ended up being a part of that has grown into a regional dialect. Most Hungarians would not understand Romani-Hungarian as one example - it a completely unique dialect made from Romani, Hungarian & Romanian, Romani from Romania would not understand it either, nor would Romanians.

The citizenship test in Hungary you have to know the history of the region right back as far as Árpád and the 7 chieftains riding on their horses into the Carpathian basin in 895! The Árpád dynasty and the Hungarian Royal family, through to the Ottoman empire, the Habsburg dynasty etc. With 1125 years of existence there are a lot of wars to learn about and the border changes were more frequent than my teeanger changes his socks! Just don't mention Trianon! ;)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: jad on Mon 19 Oct 2020 11:29
I don't know if it makes any difference, but Vladimir Yevgenyevich Antonov's full name suggests that he is probably an ethnic Russian.  And before 1992 he officiated as a Republic category referee in the lower tiers of the Soviet league system.  I suspect that his somewhat unexpected appointment is to be ascribed to logistical factors.   
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Mon 19 Oct 2020 12:30
I don't know if it makes any difference, but Vladimir Yevgenyevich Antonov's full name suggests that he is probably an ethnic Russian.  And before 1992 he officiated as a Republic category referee in the lower tiers of the Soviet league system.  I suspect that his somewhat unexpected appointment is to be ascribed to logistical factors.   

His full name certainly does suggest ethnic Russian, I agree. I do not doubt his professionalism and I suspect if he was purely appointed for logistical reasons when ordinarily he may be prevented from being appointed due to ethnicity he'll no doubt face a degree of scrutiny from those higher up the ladder to ensure absolute fairness.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Ref Fan on Mon 19 Oct 2020 15:14
Well I hope he did back Oliver as edy suggested over the alleged hand ball controversy.  More questions and conspiracy theories if he didn't!!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: referee12 on Tue 10 Nov 2020 12:59
Match day 5 referees should be out soon I wonder if Turpin or makkelie will get a game
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: tomp on Wed 11 Nov 2020 09:32
League A - Group 3
14 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Solna (Friends Arena)
Sweden - Croatia
Referee: Daniel Siebert (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan Seidel (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Rafael Foltyn (GER)
Fourth Official: Robert Schröder (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Christian Mutschler (SUI)

League A - Group 3
14 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Lisbon (Estádio do Sport Lisboa e Benfica)
Portugal - France
Referee: Tobias Stieler (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Mike Pickel (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
Fourth Official: Sascha Stegemann (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Hugh Dallas (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Peadar Ryan (IRL)

League A - Group 4
14 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Basel (St. Jakob-Park)
Switzerland - Spain
Referee: William Collum (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: Francis Connor (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: David McGeachie (SCO)
Fourth Official: Kevin Clancy (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Domenico Messina (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Peter Oskam (NED)

League A - Group 4
14 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Leipzig (RB Arena)
Germany - Ukraine
Referee: Ovidiu Haţegan (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Octavian Șovre (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Sebastian Gheorghe (ROU)
Fourth Official: Sebastian Colţescu (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Ingvarsson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Jaroslav Dudl (CZE)

League C - Group 1
14 November 2020, 18:00 CET - Nicosia (GSP)
Cyprus - Luxembourg
Referee: Mattias Gestranius (FIN)
Assistant Referee 1: Jan-Peter Aravirta (FIN)
Assistant Referee 2: Mikko Alakare (FIN)
Fourth Official: Petri Viljanen (FIN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Drazenko Kovačić (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Loukas Siotropos (GRE)

League C - Group 1
14 November 2020, 18:00 CET - Zaprešić (Stadion Ivan Laljak-Ivić)
Azerbaijan - Montenegro
Referee: Sergei Ivanov (RUS)
Assistant Referee 1: Roman Usachev (RUS)
Assistant Referee 2: Valeri Danchenko (RUS)
Fourth Official: Kirill Levnikov (RUS)
UEFA Referee Observer: Shmuel Shteif (ISR)
UEFA Delegate: Tugomir Frajman (SVN)

League D - Group 1
14 November 2020, 15:00 CET - Ta' Qali (National Stadium)
Malta - Andorra
Referee: Peter Kralović (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1: Peter Kováč (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Erik Weiss (SVK)
Fourth Official: Michal Ocenᚠ(SVK)
UEFA Referee Observer: Domagoj Vuckov (CRO)
UEFA Delegate: Oleg Harlamov (EST)

League D - Group 2
14 November 2020, 15:00 CET - Serravalle (San Marino Stadium)
San Marino - Gibraltar
Referee: Kateryna Monzul (UKR)
Assistant Referee 1: Oleksandra Ardasheva (UKR)
Assistant Referee 2: Maryna Striletska (UKR)
Fourth Official: Anastasiya Romanyuk (UKR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alain Hamer (LUX)
UEFA Delegate: Michel Schafroth (SUI)

League D - Group 1
14 November 2020, 18:00 CET - Riga (Daugava)
Latvia - Faroe Islands
Referee: Nikola Dabanović (MNE)
Assistant Referee 1: Milovan Djukić (MNE)
Assistant Referee 2: Vladan Todorović (MNE)
Fourth Official: Miloš Bošković (MNE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sascha Amhof (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Styrbjörn Oskarsson (FIN)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Mackem ref on Wed 11 Nov 2020 10:20
Can I just say I love the fact that Rosetti is actively using female officials in UEFA competitions - first Frappart, now Monzul. If you're good enough, male/female should make no difference whatsoever! I really hope we see female officials refereeing in the EFL and PL in the not too distant future as well as those currently running the line!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Wed 11 Nov 2020 10:20
Seems pretty certain now Stieler is heading to elite, particularly as he is under the radar of another important observer in Dallas.

Great appointments for the female quartet lead by Kateryna Monzul from Ukraine.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Wed 11 Nov 2020 11:01
Stieler with a very big match and with an important observer. Probably Germany's new Elite referee. I do wonder if Aytekin or Zwayer will be demoted.

Big match for Hategan and a low one for Collum. Tbh I still consider him lucky to get such appointments.

Nice appointment for Monzul. I believe that we will see her in EL soon.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Toprefm on Wed 11 Nov 2020 11:14
Good to see female officials been used and if Gibraltar win they'll be promoted to the C division next time I believe. So a huge game in their short history
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: ajb95 on Wed 11 Nov 2020 11:43
WOW what a game for Steiler - probably the biggest in this round of games! I think he will replace Aytekin in elite group.
Borbalan been roped into observing too
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Readingfan on Wed 11 Nov 2020 11:56
I wasn't terribly impressed by Stieler in England V Belgium. He seemed a bit indecisive at times.

Do we think it's possible we see a female referee at Euro 2020?

Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Mackem ref on Wed 11 Nov 2020 12:08
I think we may well see Frappart at the Euros - maybe to work as 4O and gain experience, maybe to take charge of a game on MD3 with both teams out but I think it’s highly likely!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Readingfan on Wed 11 Nov 2020 12:58
I think we may well see Frappart at the Euros - maybe to work as 4O and gain experience, maybe to take charge of a game on MD3 with both teams out but I think it’s highly likely!

As said before, if a referee is to be used it must be because they're 'good enough' - referees at the Euros normally do at least two group stage games. There are obviously slightly different level of match but I don't think you can just plan on giving a referee one game between two teams who are knocked out. They either have to be at the same level as the others and referee at least two matches or not referee at all.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: DublinRef on Wed 11 Nov 2020 20:29
Stieler with a very big match and with an important observer. Probably Germany's new Elite referee. I do wonder if Aytekin or Zwayer will be demoted.

Big match for Hategan and a low one for Collum. Tbh I still consider him lucky to get such appointments.

Nice appointment for Monzul. I believe that we will see her in EL soon.

Indeed it will be interesting to see if they demote one of the German elites, tough on Aytekin being injured, Zwayer I must say I thought was a good prospect for the elite level, himself and Makkelie I think were promoted at the same time, look at the difference in where they are now!

I wonder about Collum, given his recent performances I am surprised that he got this game, I wonder will the influence of Dallas keep him his elite spot, surely he won't be selected for the Euros in any case? I also wonder if Robert Madden has any chance for promotion to elite? A year older than Collum I think but has had a CL game this season - unlike Collum.

Can I add to others sentiments, it is great to see Frappart and Monzul breaking through at this level in mens football. 
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Thu 12 Nov 2020 09:13
League A - Group 1
15 November 2020, 18:00 CET - Amsterdam (Johan Cruijff ArenA)
Netherlands - Bosnia and Herzegovina
Referee: François Letexier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Cyril Mugnier (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Mehdi Rahmouni (FRA)
Fourth Official: Amaury Delerue (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Nicola Rizzoli (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Garry O'Hagan (SCO)

League A - Group 1
15 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Reggio Emilia (Stadio Cittŕ del Tricolore)
Italy - Poland
Referee: Clément Turpin (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Nicolas Danos (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Cyril Gringore (FRA)
Fourth Official: Frank Schneider (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vítor Manuel Melo Pereira (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Jean Paul Mievis (BEL)

League A - Group 2
15 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Copenhagen (Parken)
Denmark - Iceland
Referee: Halil Umut Meler (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Ibrahim Çaglar Uyarca (TUR)
Fourth Official: Koray Gençerler (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Hansson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Jānis Mežeckis (LVA)

League A - Group 2
15 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Leuven (Den Dreef)
Belgium - England
Referee: Danny Makkelie (NED)
Assistant Referee 1: Mario Diks (NED)
Assistant Referee 2: Hessel Steegstra (NED)
Fourth Official: Allard Lindhout (NED)
UEFA Referee Observer: Markus Nobs (SUI)
UEFA Delegate: Rudolf Řepka (CZE)

League B - Group 2
15 November 2020, 15:00 CET - Trnava (Štadión Anton Malatinského)
Slovakia - Scotland
Referee: István Kovács (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Vasile Florin Marinescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Ovidiu Artene (ROU)
Fourth Official: Horațiu Feșnic (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jouni Hyytiä (FIN)
UEFA Delegate: Róbert Barczi (HUN)

League B - Group 3
15 November 2020, 18:00 CET - Istanbul (Fenerbahçe Şükrü Saraçoğlu Stadyumu)
Turkey - Russia
Referee: Szymon Marciniak (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Paweł Sokolnicki (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Radosław Siejka (POL)
Fourth Official: Paweł Gil (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Levan Paniashvili (GEO)
UEFA Delegate: Konul Mehtiyeva (AZE)

League B - Group 4
15 November 2020, 18:00 CET - Sofia (Natsionalen Stadion Vasil Levski)
Bulgaria - Finland
Referee: Donatas Rumšas (LTU)
Assistant Referee 1: Aleksandr Radius (LTU)
Assistant Referee 2: Dovydas Sužiedėlis (LTU)
Fourth Official: Robertas Valikonis (LTU)
UEFA Referee Observer:  Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Georg Lüchinger (LIE)

League B - Group 4
15 November 2020, 18:00 CET - Cardiff (Cardiff City Stadium)
Wales - Republic of Ireland
Referee: Petr Ardeleanu (CZE)
Assistant Referee 1: Ivo Nadvornik (CZE)
Assistant Referee 2: Petr Caletka (CZE)
Fourth Official: Karel Hrubes (CZE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Terje Hauge (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Andrew Shaw (ENG)


League B - Group 1
15 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Bucharest (Arena Națională)
Romania - Norway
Referee: Ali Palabıyık (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Ceyhun Sesigüzel (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Serkan Cimen (TUR)
Fourth Official: Abdulkadir Bitigen (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Uno Tutk (EST)
UEFA Delegate: Paul Lyon (GIB)

League B - Group 1
15 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Vienna (Ernst-Happel-Stadion)
Austria - Northern Ireland
Referee: Maurizio Mariani (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Alberto Tegoni (ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefano Del Giovane (ITA)
Fourth Official: Federico La Penna (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Peter Sippel (GER)
UEFA Delegate: Haris Gvozden (BIH)

League B - Group 2
15 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Plzeň (Stadion města Plzně)
Czech Republic - Israel
Referee: Srdjan Jovanović (SRB)
Assistant Referee 1: Uroš Stojković (SRB)
Assistant Referee 2: Milan Mihajlović (SRB)
Fourth Official: Milos Milanović (SRB)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alfredo Trentalange (ITA)
UEFA Delegate: Ciprian Paraschiv (ROU)

League B - Group 3
15 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Budapest (Puskás Aréna)
Hungary - Serbia
Referee: Glenn Nyberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mahbod Beigi (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Andreas Söderqvist (SWE)
Fourth Official: Mohammed Al-Hakim (SWE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kyros Vassaras (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Michal Mertinyák (SVK)

League C - Group 2
15 November 2020, 15:00 CET - Skopje (National Arena Todor Proeski)
North Macedonia - Estonia
Referee: Marius Avram (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Valentin Avram (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Cristian Orbulet (ROU)
Fourth Official: Iulian Călin (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Plarent Kotherja (ALB)
UEFA Delegate: Igor Radojičić (SRB)

League C - Group 2
15 November 2020, 18:00 CET - Tbilisi (Boris Paichadze National Stadium Dinamo Arena)
Georgia - Armenia
Referee: Marco Guida (ITA)
Assistant Referee 1: Matteo Passeri /(ITA)
Assistant Referee 2: Sergio Ranghetti (ITA)
Fourth Official: Rosario Abissio (ITA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefan Messner (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Anna Kapasoglou (GRE)

League C - Group 4
15 November 2020, 18:00 CET - Tirana (Arena Kombëtare)
Albania - Kazakhstan
Referee: Javier Estrada Fernández (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Roberto Alonso Fernández (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Guadalupe Porras Ayuso (ESP)
Fourth Official: Ricardo de Burgos Bengoechea (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Ferenc Székely (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Fiona Pförtke (GER)

League C - Group 4
15 November 2020, 18:00 CET - Minsk (National Olympic Stadium Dinamo)
Belarus - Lithuania
Referee: Christopher Kavanagh (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Lee Betts (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Dan Cook (ENG)
Fourth Official:  David Coote (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Darko Čeferin (SVN)
UEFA Delegate: Sergiu Lisnic (MDA)

League C - Group 3
15 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Chișinău (Stadionul Zimbru)
Moldova - Greece
Referee: Fran Jović (CRO)
Assistant Referee 1: Ivica Modrić (CRO)
Assistant Referee 2: Hrvoje Radić (CRO)
Fourth Official: Ivan Vučković (CRO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Fritz Stuchlik (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Vitalii Danylchenko (UKR)

League C - Group 3
15 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Ljubljana (Stadion Stožice)
Slovenia - Kosovo
Referee: Bartosz Frankowski (POL)
Assistant Referee 1:Jakub Winkler (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Bartosz Heinig (POL)
Fourth Official: Tomasz Kwiatkowski (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vladimir Medved (SVK)


Edited purely to add in a bit of colour coding! Yes I have put István Kovács in purple - I'm stealing him back for Hungary! Maybe Mr Barczi can bring him home with him! ;)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Thu 12 Nov 2020 09:26
Important observer for Nyberg in Hungary...

Kavanagh gets a trip to a chilly Minsk and Makkelie gets the big one.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Thu 12 Nov 2020 10:15
Makkelie with the big one of the day.

Good appointment for Nyberg in front of Kyros Vassaras. Marciniak with another big match despite his not so good performances lately.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Thu 12 Nov 2020 15:56
Awaiting to see if I have been declined travel again! I've submitted 2 more negative test results so fingers crossed I will be granted permission for this one. Mr Vassaras is a bigger draw for Missy bmb than Mr Nyberg!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: tomp on Sat 14 Nov 2020 09:16
League A - Group 3
17 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Split (Stadion Poljud)
Croatia - Portugal
Referee: Michael Oliver (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Stuart Burt (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Simon Bennett (ENG)
Fourth Official: Paul Tierney (ENG)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sándor Piller (HUN)
UEFA Delegate: Nermina Hadžibajrić (BIH)

League A - Group 3
17 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Saint-Denis (Stade de France)
France - Sweden
Referee: Aleksei Kulbakov (BLR)
Assistant Referee 1: Dmitri Zhuk (BLR)
Assistant Referee 2: Oleg Maslyanko (BLR)
Fourth Official: Denis Scherbakov (BLR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Emil Bozhinovski (MKD)
UEFA Delegate: Mark Blackbourne (ENG)

League A - Group 4
17 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Seville (Estadio la Cartuja)
Spain - Germany
Referee: Andreas Ekberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mehmet Culum (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Stefan Hallberg (SWE)
Fourth Official: Kristoffer Karlsson (SWE) 
UEFA Referee Observer: Marc Batta (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Dennis Cruise (IRL)

League A - Group 4
17 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Luzern (Luzern Arena)
Switzerland - Ukraine
Referee: Anastasios Sidiropoulos (GRE)
Assistant Referee 1: Polychronis Kostaras (GRE)
Assistant Referee 2: Lazaros Dimitriadis (GRE)
Fourth Official: Vassilis Fotias (GRE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Marián Ružbarský (UKR)
UEFA Delegate: Claude Runavot (FRA)

League C - Group 1
17 November 2020, 20:45 CET - City of Luxembourg (Stade Josy Barthel)
Luxembourg - Azerbaijan
Referee: Felix Zwayer (GER)
Assistant Referee 1: Thorsten Schiffner (GER)
Assistant Referee 2: Marco Achmüller (GER)
Fourth Official: Harm Osmers (GER)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michael Riley (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Tammo Beishuizen (NED)

League C - Group 1
17 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Podgorica (Gradski Stadion)
Montenegro - Cyprus
Referee: Eitan Shmuelevitz (ISR)
Assistant Referee 1: Sagy Metzamber (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tom Adi (ISR)
Fourth Official: Eli Hacmon (ISR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Edward Foley (IRL)
UEFA Delegate: Arturs Gaidels (LVA)

League D - Group 1
17 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Ta' Qali (National Stadium)
Malta - Faroe Islands
Referee: Kristo Tohver (EST)
Assistant Referee 1: Silver Koiv (EST)
Assistant Referee 2: Sten Klaasen (EST)
Fourth Official: Juri Frischer (EST)
UEFA Referee Observer: Stefano Podeschi (SMR)
UEFA Delegate: Philip Woosnam (WAL)

League D - Group 1
17 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Andorra La Vella (Estadi Nacional)
Andorra - Latvia
Referee: Dimitar Meckarovski (MKD)
Assistant Referee 1: Nikola Karakolev (MKD)
Assistant Referee 2: Kushtrim Lika (MKD)
Fourth Official: Konstantin Vlaho (MKD)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sergejus Slyva (LTU)
UEFA Delegate: Lennart Vestervall (SWE)

League D - Group 2
17 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Gibraltar (Victoria Stadium)
Gibraltar - Liechtenstein
Referee: Trustin Farrugia Cann (MLT)
Assistant Referee 1: Alan Camilleri (MLT)
Assistant Referee 2: Duncan Sultana (MLT)
Fourth Official: Fyodor Zammit (MLT)
UEFA Referee Observer: Fredy Fautrel (FRA)
UEFA Delegate: Róbert Agnarsson (ISL)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sat 14 Nov 2020 10:16
Fantastic appointment for Ekberg with an important observer....

Strange appointment for Zwayer 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Sat 14 Nov 2020 13:33
Excellent appointment for Ekberg and with an important observer. I hope to see him in Elite soon.

Zwayer in League C is rather weird. His Elite status seems at risk. Sidiropoulos also with a low-key match.

Nice gesture by UEFA to appoint Shmuelevitz. Probably his last match.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: DublinRef on Sat 14 Nov 2020 14:29
Excellent appointment for Ekberg and with an important observer. I hope to see him in Elite soon.

Zwayer in League C is rather weird. His Elite status seems at risk. Sidiropoulos also with a low-key match.

Nice gesture by UEFA to appoint Shmuelevitz. Probably his last match.

Interesting appointments

Based on the last few sets of appointments I think the following at least are at some risk of demotion

Zwayer
Aytekin
Collum

As to who can be promoted maybe-

Ekberg
Stieler
Guida
Massa
Madden

I think in reality it is more likely that there is one German demoted, Stieler promoted to replace, Collum demoted (maybe) and Ekberg promoted as well as an Italian. Where would people rank Madden I haven't seen much of him recently is he a candidate for elite over Collum?
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sat 14 Nov 2020 15:06
Kateryna Monzul has her red card out in San Marino....
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: QuoCob on Sat 14 Nov 2020 15:09
 Good to see Kateryna Monzuls team penalising a raised foot foul throw.
Then she has just justifiably sent off the San Marino skipper for a straight red, high foot...  ;)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sat 14 Nov 2020 17:35
I had no idea Gestranius is a card shark.. four yellows in 18 minutes then a straight red to the Luxembourger which the linesman gave despite Gestranius gesturing no penalty.

Looks like the Luxembourger made a genuine attempt for the ball.. should have been yellow.

Strange performance so far....
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Sat 14 Nov 2020 21:00
Excellent appointment for Ekberg and with an important observer. I hope to see him in Elite soon.

Zwayer in League C is rather weird. His Elite status seems at risk. Sidiropoulos also with a low-key match.

Nice gesture by UEFA to appoint Shmuelevitz. Probably his last match.

As to who can be promoted maybe-

Ekberg
Stieler
Guida
Massa
Madden

I see 3 promotion candidates from your list. Stieler, Massa and Ekberg. On that order.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: tomp on Sun 15 Nov 2020 09:27
League A - Group 1
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Sarajevo (Stadion Grbavica)
Bosnia and Herzegovina - Italy
Referee: Artur Dias (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Rui Tavares (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Paulo Soares (POR)
Fourth Official: Vítor Fernandes Ferreira (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Rune Pedersen (NOR)
UEFA Delegate: Thura Win (ENG)

League A - Group 1
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Chorzow (Silesian Stadium)
Poland - Netherlands
Referee: Orel Grinfeld (ISR)
Assistant Referee 1: Roy Hassan (ISR)
Assistant Referee 2: Idan Yarkon (ISR)
Fourth Official: Gal Leibovitz (ISR)
UEFA Referee Observer: William Young (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Aristeidis Stavropoulos (GRE)

League A - Group 2
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - London (Wembley Stadium)
England - Iceland
Referee: Fábio Veríssimo (POR)
Assistant Referee 1: Luis Campos (POR)
Assistant Referee 2: Rui Teixeira (POR)
Fourth Official: Antonio Emanuel Carvalho Nobre (POR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Ichko Lozev (BUL)
UEFA Delegate: Borja Bilbao (ESP) 

League A - Group 2
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Leuven (Den Dreef)
Belgium - Denmark
Referee: Slavko Vinčić (SVN)
Assistant Referee 1: Grega Kordež (SVN)
Assistant Referee 2: Andraž Kovačič (SVN)
Fourth Official: Nejc Kajtazović (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Miroslav Tulinger (CZE)
UEFA Delegate: Pavel Kolev (BUL)

League B - Group 1
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Belfast (Windsor Park)
Northern Ireland - Romania
Referee: Sandro Schärer (SUI)
Assistant Referee 1: Bekim Zogaj (SUI)
Assistant Referee 2: Jonas Erni (SUI)
Fourth Official: Fedayi San (SUI)
UEFA Referee Observer: John Ward (IRL)
UEFA Delegate: Per Eliasson (SWE)

League B - Group 1
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Vienna (Ernst-Hoppel Stadion)
Austria - Norway
Referee: Benoît Bastien (FRA)
Assistant Referee 1: Hicham Zakrani (FRA)
Assistant Referee 2: Frédéric Haquette (FRA)
Fourth Official: Willy Delajod (FRA)
UEFA Referee Observer: Jan W. Wegereef (NED)
UEFA Delegate: Mark Bos (NED)

League B - Group 2
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Netanya (Netanya Stadium)
Israel - Scotland
Referee: Paweł Raczkowski (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomasz Listkiewicz (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Kupsik (POL)
Fourth Official: Paweł  Gil (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Lucílio Cardoso Cortez Batista (POR)
UEFA Delegate: Camelia Nicolae (ROU)

League B - Group 2
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Plzeň (Stadion města Plzně)
Czech Republic - Slovakia
Referee: Cüneyt Çakır (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Tarik Ongun (TUR)
Fourth Official: Mete Kalkavan (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Bernardino González Vázquez (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Joăo Morais (POR)

League B - Group 3
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Belgrade (Stadion Rajko Mitić)
Serbia - Russia
Referee: Daniel Stefański (POL) Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Marcin Boniek (POL) Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Dawid Igor Golis (POL) Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: Damian Sylwestrzak (POL) Matej Jug (SVN)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kenneth William Clark (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Biljana Velkovska Smilanovska (MKD)

League B - Group 3
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Budapest (Puskás Aréna)
Hungary - Turkey
Referee: Ivan Kružliak (SVK)
Assistant Referee 1: Tomaš Somolani (SVK)
Assistant Referee 2: Branislav Hancko (SVK)
Fourth Official: Filip Glova (SVK)
UEFA Referee Observer: Konrad Plautz (AUT)
UEFA Delegate: Kazimierz Oleszek (POL)

League B - Group 4
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Dublin (Dublin Arena)
Republic of Ireland - Bulgaria
Referee: Lawrence Visser (BEL)
Assistant Referee 1: Thibaud Nijssen (BEL)
Assistant Referee 2: Rien Vanyzere (BEL)
Fourth Official: Bram Van Driessche (BEL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Michalis Argyrou (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Jan Willem Van Dop (NED)

League B - Group 4
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Cardiff (Cardiff City Stadium)
Wales - Finland
Referee: Jesús Gil Manzano (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Diego Barbero Sevilla (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Ángel Nevado Rodríguez (ESP)
Fourth Official: Juan Martínez Munuera (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer:  Neale Barry (ENG)
UEFA Delegate: Marcin Stefański (POL)

League C - Group 4
18 November 2020, 16:00 CET - Almaty (Almaty Ortalyk Stadion)
Kazakhstan - Lithuania
Referee: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Cevdet Komurcuoglu (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Esat Sancaktar (TUR)
Fourth Official: Tugay Kaan Numanoglu (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Rusmir Mrković (BIH)
UEFA Delegate: Anthony Bloch (ENG)

League C - Group 4
18 November 2020, 16:00 CET - Tirana (Arena Kombëtare)
Albania - Belarus
Referee: Radu Petrescu (ROU)
Assistant Referee 1: Radu Ghinguleac (ROU)
Assistant Referee 2: Mircea Mihail Grigoriu (ROU)
Fourth Official: Marcel Birsan (ROU)
UEFA Referee Observer: Vadims Direktorenko (LVA)
UEFA Delegate: Emil Ubias (CZE)

League C - Group 2
18 November 2020, 18:00 CET - Nicosia (GSP)
Armenia - North Macedonia
Referee:  Robert Madden (SCO)
Assistant Referee 1: David Roome (SCO)
Assistant Referee 2: Graeme Stewart (SCO)
Fourth Official: Donald Robertson (SCO)
UEFA Referee Observer: Costas Kapitanis (CYP)
UEFA Delegate: Phivos Constantinides (CYP)

League C - Group 2
18 November 2020, 18:00 CET - Tbilisi (Boris Paichadze National Stadium Dinamo Arena)
Georgia - Estonia
Referee: Irfan Peljto (BIH)
Assistant Referee 1: Senad Ibrisimbegović (BIH)
Assistant Referee 2: Davor Beljo (BIH)
Fourth Official: Admir Šehović (BIH)
UEFA Referee Observer: Juan Antonio Fernández Marín (ESP)
UEFA Delegate: Alojzije Šupraha (CRO)

League C - Group 3
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Pristina (Stadiumi Fadil Vokrri)
Kosovo - Moldova
Referee: Roomer Tarajev (EST)
Assistant Referee 1: Neeme Neemlaid (EST)
Assistant Referee 2: Sander Saga (EST)
Fourth Official: Karl Koppel (EST)
UEFA Referee Observer: Sokol Jareci (ALB)
UEFA Delegate: Balász Makray (HUN)

League C - Group 3
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Athens (Georgios Kamaras Stadium)
Greece - Slovenia
Referee: Carlos del Cerro Grande (ESP)
Assistant Referee 1: Juan Carlos Yuste Jiménez (ESP)
Assistant Referee 2: Roberto Alonso Fernández (ESP)
Fourth Official: Guillermo Cuadra Fernández (ESP)
UEFA Referee Observer: Boško Jovanetić (SRB)
UEFA Delegate: Jeroen Roest (NED)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: RCG on Sun 15 Nov 2020 09:36
What do we know about the Portugese ref? A new name to me completely.

Some big guns out in the lower leagues on games that "matter" or historic dog fights
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sun 15 Nov 2020 09:47
No surprise Cakir is in Plzen...

Important observer for Kruzliak in Budapest, and I have to concur with RCG, haven’t seen Verissimo in action.

I’m sure edy will provide some details on his stature and performance levels.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: tomp on Sun 15 Nov 2020 10:21
What do we know about the Portugese ref? A new name to me completely.

Some big guns out in the lower leagues on games that "matter" or historic dog fights

I saw Verissimo in the Wales V Bulgaria nations league match in Cardiff a couple of months ago. I thought he done well, let things flow, was not too card happy only booked when absolutely necessary and seemed to have a good rapport with the players.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Bakis on Sun 15 Nov 2020 12:04
Let's hope Madden & colleagues aren't too apprehensive about going to Armenia in the current situation, though perhaps it's better than a week or two ago.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: tomp on Sun 15 Nov 2020 12:11
Let's hope Madden & colleagues aren't too apprehensive about going to Armenia in the current situation, though perhaps it's better than a week or two ago.
The match is being played in Nicosia, Cyprus.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: ajb95 on Sun 15 Nov 2020 12:15
What do we know about the Portugese ref? A new name to me completely.

Some big guns out in the lower leagues on games that "matter" or historic dog fights

I saw Verissimo in the Wales V Bulgaria nations league match in Cardiff a couple of months ago. I thought he done well, let things flow, was not too card happy only booked when absolutely necessary and seemed to have a good rapport with the players.

He usually refs the big games in Portugal. Seems he is second in the pecking order for Portugal now
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: Jackinthebox on Sun 15 Nov 2020 15:40
Excellent appointment for Ekberg and with an important observer. I hope to see him in Elite soon.

Zwayer in League C is rather weird. His Elite status seems at risk. Sidiropoulos also with a low-key match.

Nice gesture by UEFA to appoint Shmuelevitz. Probably his last match.

Interesting appointments

Based on the last few sets of appointments I think the following at least are at some risk of demotion

Zwayer
Aytekin
Collum

As to who can be promoted maybe-

Ekberg
Stieler
Guida
Massa
Madden

I think in reality it is more likely that there is one German demoted, Stieler promoted to replace, Collum demoted (maybe) and Ekberg promoted as well as an Italian. Where would people rank Madden I haven't seen much of him recently is he a candidate for elite over Collum?

For me Madden is Scotlands best referee so would rank him above Collum. Would I say he is elite material? Possibly would be worthy of a chance in the elite group instead of Collum.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: JCFC on Sun 15 Nov 2020 17:09
But at 42(?) he is surely too old to be a realistic candidate for further promotion.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: DublinRef on Sun 15 Nov 2020 18:01
But at 42(?) he is surely too old to be a realistic candidate for further promotion.

I would have to defer to edy's knowledge on that. My only reason for including him was as it seems Collum could well be demoted and I would be surprised (perfectly willing to be corrected as I don't know this) that due to the influence of Hugh Dallas Scotland will not lose an elite referee spot. Also I believe he does have a decent number of CL appointments over the last few seasons.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Sun 15 Nov 2020 19:56

Important observer for Kruzliak in Budapest,

Missy bmb is volunteering her services to observe the totty I mean 4th official for him!  ;D
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sun 15 Nov 2020 19:58
Thought Kovacs was poor in the Scotland game... too whistle happy and 9 yellows really was unnecessary....
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Sun 15 Nov 2020 20:00
But at 42(?) he is surely too old to be a realistic candidate for further promotion.

Yes he is too old.  They don't tend to promote anyone over age 40 to elite because they do not have any time otherwise to get the experience at the very top level Internationally before any tournaments. It's one of the reasons Hungary won't have an elite ref for another 3-5 years or so. Our 2 experienced Group 1 refs are too old, one is always injured and the other only done EL games.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Sun 15 Nov 2020 20:02
Thought Kovacs was poor in the Scotland game... too whistle happy and 9 yellows really was unnecessary....

I didn't watch - I've had a lazy Sunday curled up with a book & only just switched any electronics on to watch the Hungary game.

Sad to hear that though. I like him as a ref, been following his career for a few years now.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: tomp on Sun 15 Nov 2020 20:06
Cyril Zimmermann replaced Kyros Vassaras as the observer for the Hungary match today.

Also Lee Betts replaced Sian Massey-Ellis on the Belarus V Lithuania game with Chris Kavanagh.
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Sun 15 Nov 2020 20:20
Cyril Zimmermann replaced Kyros Vassaras as the observer for the Hungary match today.


Is this because Mr Vasseras knew bmb had been denied permission to travel & didn't want to be there if I couldn't also be there? ;)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Sun 15 Nov 2020 21:33
Reports suggesting Turpin has been terrible in the Italy v Poland clash.....
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Sun 15 Nov 2020 21:52
Cyril Zimmermann replaced Kyros Vassaras as the observer for the Hungary match today.


Is this because Mr Vasseras knew bmb had been denied permission to travel & didn't want to be there if I couldn't also be there? ;)

Exactly. His exact words to Rosetti were "If I don't get to have lunch with bmb, I am not going. Send someone else".  ;)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Sun 15 Nov 2020 22:03


League B - Group 3
15 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Budapest (Puskás Aréna)
Hungary - Serbia
Referee: Glenn Nyberg (SWE)
Assistant Referee 1: Mahbod Beigi (SWE)
Assistant Referee 2: Andreas Söderqvist (SWE)
Fourth Official: Mohammed Al-Hakim (SWE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kyros Vassaras (GRE)
UEFA Delegate: Michal Mertinyák (SVK)

No complaints with Mr Nyberg. He just got on with it. A couple of common sense decisions from him in more minor fouls.  2nd half was pretty dire to be honest, although to be fair that was not down to him! Was watching with Mr bmb & a couple of Serb friends (we were all talking on Skype so not physically together) and no yelling the refs way from either set of fans which is always a good sign for a ref!  He wore blue.

The only time I remember him being mentioned was when one of the Serbs said to Mr bmb "well we know he's not one of her bits of ref totty - he's blond" and they both laughed! Not very nice really is it!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: DublinRef on Sun 15 Nov 2020 22:35
Reports suggesting Turpin has been terrible in the Italy v Poland clash.....

Yes I am reading comments along the lines of "three crucial mistakes but excellent control and player management" seems he also called a penalty correctly and disallowed a goal correctly (just what I've read I did not watch the game).

Sounds like a rare poor evening for the French referee who I think has been in good form of late. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who saw the game on what they thought?
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: ajb95 on Mon 16 Nov 2020 09:53
League A - Group 2
15 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Copenhagen (Parken)
Denmark - Iceland
Referee: Halil Umut Meler (TUR)
Assistant Referee 1: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
Assistant Referee 2: Ibrahim Çaglar Uyarca (TUR)
Fourth Official: Koray Gençerler (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Martin Hansson (SWE)
UEFA Delegate: Jānis Mežeckis (LVA)

What a shame!! He was having such a good game, no problems whatsoever. Liked his control of the game. Big decision in first half - penalty for Denmark, absolutely correct.

Last minute of the game 92 mins, cross to the back post and striker heads it down, defenders arms go up to turn his back on the ball and he gives a penalty. It actually hit him at the top of the middle part of his chest. Penalty scored and Denmark win 2-1. An unfortunate mistake to cloud what was an excellent performance!
Has to go down as a clear KMI mistake which means a lower score but observer Hanson will be pleased with what he saw overall!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: edy on Mon 16 Nov 2020 22:04

League B - Group 3
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Belgrade (Stadion Rajko Mitić)
Serbia - Russia
Referee: Daniel Stefański (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Marcin Boniek (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Dawid Igor Golis (POL)
Fourth Official: Damian Sylwestrzak (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kenneth William Clark (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Biljana Velkovska Smilanovska (MKD)

New Appointment

Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: Matej Jug (SVN)
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Mon 16 Nov 2020 22:54

League B - Group 3
18 November 2020, 20:45 CET - Belgrade (Stadion Rajko Mitić)
Serbia - Russia
Referee: Daniel Stefański (POL)
Assistant Referee 1: Marcin Boniek (POL)
Assistant Referee 2: Dawid Igor Golis (POL)
Fourth Official: Damian Sylwestrzak (POL)
UEFA Referee Observer: Kenneth William Clark (SCO)
UEFA Delegate: Biljana Velkovska Smilanovska (MKD)

New Appointment

Referee: Anthony Taylor (ENG)
Assistant Referee 1: Gary Beswick (ENG)
Assistant Referee 2: Adam Nunn (ENG)
Fourth Official: Matej Jug (SVN)

Big game that one!  Hajrá Szerbia!
Title: Re: UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 appointments
Post by: bmb on Wed 18 Nov 2020 22:22
Szerbia 5-0 win!! So happy for my Serbian friends - they avoided relegation and helped Hungary finish top of the division.  Beating Turkey played a big part in that as well of course! Hungary promoted to the A division!

I LOVE THE NATIONS LEAGUE!!!

My beautiful Serbian man was happy with Taylor and team - he's been knocking back the pálinka! He's 4 shots ahead of me - scandalous! My Serb that is and not Mr Taylor!

The Slovak team on the Hungary game were fine. One absolutely dreadful offside call from AR2.  Ball played deep in one half and I mean literally just outside the penalty area where Dibz was, touches no-one and finally comes down about midway into the other half and he gave offside against Niko I think it was! He's going to be very embarrassed by that when he watches it back. That was really the only very poor decision though & wasn't a game changing one.  It was earlyish in the first half & he was fine for the rest of the game. Mr Glova was rather camera shy tonight though which was rather disappointing! Someone from the Federation was operating the board so didn't even see him for substitutions!