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General Refereeing => General Discussion => Topic started by: ATurner on Sun 16 Sep 2018 19:14
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After watching Walsall for 40 plus years I thought I had some seen all of the most awful referees that I could until yesterday.
Enter Antony Coggins who gave the worst (Edited by moderator)I have had the displeasure to watch.Everytime a Doncaster player was touched down he went and a foul was given,when a Walsall player was fouled no foul and play on,He gave a penalty to Doncaster for handball when the Walsall player quite clearly was pushed in the back but oh no Mr Coggins didnt see that.When our No 16 was hacked down on the wing no foul and a goal kick to Doncaster - even the Doncaster players were laughing at that one.
He constantly failed to punish the theatrics from Doncaster Nos 7 and 9 who went down at the touch of a feather and then when our manager tried to get the ball off their No 7 who was holding on to it to stop a throw in being taken he was shown the yellow card and,yes youve guessed it,no action against the No 7.There were a lot of other incidents that I could comment on but I would be here all night.
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This is the first time we have ever had Mr Coggins and I hope it is a bloody long time until we get him again.
Before anybody says that this is sour grapes Doncaster were the better side and deserved to win the game but they were very ably assisted in doing so by such an incompetent display.
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Please be more careful when posting, I have had to remove large parts of your post and I can assure you I don’t like doing so, however questioning the integrity of any referee is not acceptable on this board , please refrain from doing so in future.
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There was I thinking that a rate the ref website was about rating a referee’s performance- silly me !
I have given an honest assessment of a referee - if you choose to delete various bits that’s up to you.
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There was I thinking that a rate the ref website was about rating a referee’s performance- silly me !
I have given an honest assessment of a referee - if you choose to delete various bits that’s up to you.
please do not discuss decisions made by the moderator publicly on the forum, if you have an issue send a private message.
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There was I thinking that a rate the ref website was about rating a referee’s performance- silly me !
I have given an honest assessment of a referee - if you choose to delete various bits that’s up to you.
You are free to discuss the referees performance be that good , bad or indifferent, you are NOT free to question the referees integrity simple as that . Any further help you may need don’t hesitate to pm me .
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I haven't seen Mr Coggins since his elevation to the FL or watched the highlights of this particular game. His promotion was a surprise to me, as he seemed to get some big calls wrong in his NL days.
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Sounds like Doncaster still think they are managed by Ferguson!
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Re. the Ferguson comment- you couldn't be more wrong. Last season I complained on here that Ferguson's teams were not "streetwise" enough and a fan of Peterborough, his former club, agreed with me. The change in mindset is very noticeable.
As for Mr Coggins I thought he was a weak referee who had little control over a difficult game to handle. The penalty was a decision I thought he got right and the Walsall manager accepted it was a penalty. I remarked just before half time that he looked like a trainee teacher thrown in at the deep end with a difficult class of 14 year olds and no supervisor present. He was lucky that the interval came when it did as tempers cooled down a little. Before that, one mistimed tackle would have led to a brawl.
He will have to improve in what is his second season or he'll be back on the National League next year.
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Re. the Ferguson comment- you couldn't be more wrong. Last season I complained on here that Ferguson's teams were not "streetwise" enough and a fan of Peterborough, his former club, agreed with me. The change in mindset is very noticeable.
As for Mr Coggins I thought he was a weak referee who had little control over a difficult game to handle. The penalty was a decision I thought he got right and the Walsall manager accepted it was a penalty. I remarked just before half time that he looked like a trainee teacher thrown in at the deep end with a difficult class of 14 year olds and no supervisor present. He was lucky that the interval came when it did as tempers cooled down a little. Before that, one mistimed tackle would have led to a brawl.
He will have to improve in what is his second season or he'll be back on the National League next year.
I think opposing supporters might disagree with you about Ferguson and Doncaster, and Peterborough before that.
I know what I saw four times last season; maybe it was a coincidence.
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Please be more careful when posting, I have had to remove large parts of your post and I can assure you I don’t like doing so, however questioning the integrity of any referee is not acceptable on this board , please refrain from doing so in future.
To clarify, if we think a referee's performance is less than even-handed are we allowed to say so ?
Coggins has looked either incompetent or out of his depth or both when I've seen him. However, I haven't yet had occasion to question his impartiality.
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There was I thinking that a rate the ref website was about rating a referee’s performance- silly me !
I have given an honest assessment of a referee - if you choose to delete various bits that’s up to you.
I would have liked to have read your honest assessment ....... hey ho.
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Please be more careful when posting, I have had to remove large parts of your post and I can assure you I don’t like doing so, however questioning the integrity of any referee is not acceptable on this board , please refrain from doing so in future.
To clarify, if we think a referee's performance is less than even-handed are we allowed to say so ?
Coggins has looked either incompetent or out of his depth or both when I've seen him. However, I haven't yet had occasion to question his impartiality.
We have to be very careful what we say on this site as it could land the site in trouble, its a difficult one as accusing a referee of cheating is libellious unless proven legally. But i accept there can be that fine line. I personally would prefer you to be cautious when saying that sort of thing.
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I can concur that Mr. Coggins 'looks like a trainee teacher' when I have seen him.
He is fine until an incident occurs then his approach varies from strict to lax in a matter of moments, and he seems on the edge of losing control, making inconsistent decisions.
Like a trainee teacher, he has the skills to the job, but needs to put those skills to use and learn from the experiences.
I fear that if he has not learned sufficently after his first seasons and is still making the same mistakes, and unless his mentors assist him, he will have a short FL career.
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Re. the Ferguson comment- you couldn't be more wrong. Last season I complained on here that Ferguson's teams were not "streetwise" enough and a fan of Peterborough, his former club, agreed with me. The change in mindset is very noticeable.
As for Mr Coggins I thought he was a weak referee who had little control over a difficult game to handle. The penalty was a decision I thought he got right and the Walsall manager accepted it was a penalty. I remarked just before half time that he looked like a trainee teacher thrown in at the deep end with a difficult class of 14 year olds and no supervisor present. He was lucky that the interval came when it did as tempers cooled down a little. Before that, one mistimed tackle would have led to a brawl.
He will have to improve in what is his second season or he'll be back on the National League next year.
I think opposing supporters might disagree with you about Ferguson and Doncaster, and Peterborough before that.
I know what I saw four times last season; maybe it was a coincidence.
It is worth noting that last season we were near the top of the "Fair Play" table in League One. This year we are near the bottom, despite not having a huge turnover in playing personnel. The main difference is that we are picking up a lot of cards for what might be called "tactical fouls" on players who are breaking against us. Far too often last season we conceded because opponents were allowed to run 40-50 yards without being challenged, fairly or otherwise. That suggests a team that has become more "streetwise" to me.
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After watching Walsall for 40 plus years I thought I had some seen all of the most awful referees that I could until yesterday.
Enter Antony Coggins who gave the worst (Edited by moderator)I have had the displeasure to watch.Everytime a Doncaster player was touched down he went and a foul was given,when a Walsall player was fouled no foul and play on,He gave a penalty to Doncaster for handball when the Walsall player quite clearly was pushed in the back but oh no Mr Coggins didnt see that.When our No 16 was hacked down on the wing no foul and a goal kick to Doncaster - even the Doncaster players were laughing at that one.
He constantly failed to punish the theatrics from Doncaster Nos 7 and 9 who went down at the touch of a feather and then when our manager tried to get the ball off their No 7 who was holding on to it to stop a throw in being taken he was shown the yellow card and,yes youve guessed it,no action against the No 7.There were a lot of other incidents that I could comment on but I would be here all night.
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This is the first time we have ever had Mr Coggins and I hope it is a bloody long time until we get him again.
Before anybody says that this is sour grapes Doncaster were the better side and deserved to win the game but they were very ably assisted in doing so by such an incompetent display.
I saw Coggins once last season, and was ok. I don't like people criticising refs integrity, as if you can do a better job go sign up look many of us.
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So I have to have been a referee to criticise a referee - dont be daft.
On that basis then I have to have been the Prime Minister to criticise the Prime Minister. ;D ;D
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So I have to have been a referee to criticise a referee - dont be daft.
On that basis then I have to have been the Prime Minister to criticise the Prime Minister. ;D ;D
For the third time: It's not your criticism of his performance, it's the criticism of his integrity that is frowned upon.