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General Refereeing => Legacy Appointment Boards => Select Group 2 => Topic started by: aaa on Mon 06 Sep 2021 16:13

Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: bmb on Thu 16 Sep 2021 15:45
I agree as QPR fan I find it ridiculous to have a Ref so close to the home team

Why? Stroud is not a fan of bmth, has no ties to the club, why should a referee have to travel "a certain distance" to prove they are neutral?

He's getting battered on Twitter by both sets of fans. Both seemed to think he 'ruined' the game. I wasn't watching but the complaints seem to be general as opposed to in relation to a particular incident.

We "conceded" 21 fouls, but a good number of them looked extremely soft at worst, if they were fouls at all. We were like.. "what's he given that for?"  Shortly after at least three of the soft ones, AFCB players were clearly fouled yet nothing given. An obvious red card after a QPR player kicked out as well, clear VC, but given as yellow. I wouldn't say Stroud "ruined" the game, but IMHO did give a number of poor decisions for both sides, hence (regrettably) the getting battered on Twitter by both sets of fans.

He's often poor in our games - for both teams.  Think I've only seen him have 1 maybe 2 decent games at Dean Court.
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: Jim_AFCB on Thu 16 Sep 2021 15:40
I agree as QPR fan I find it ridiculous to have a Ref so close to the home team

Why? Stroud is not a fan of bmth, has no ties to the club, why should a referee have to travel "a certain distance" to prove they are neutral?

He's getting battered on Twitter by both sets of fans. Both seemed to think he 'ruined' the game. I wasn't watching but the complaints seem to be general as opposed to in relation to a particular incident.

We "conceded" 21 fouls, but a good number of them looked extremely soft at worst, if they were fouls at all. We were like.. "what's he given that for?"  Shortly after at least three of the soft ones, AFCB players were clearly fouled yet nothing given. An obvious red card after a QPR player kicked out as well, clear VC, but given as yellow. I wouldn't say Stroud "ruined" the game, but IMHO did give a number of poor decisions for both sides, hence (regrettably) the getting battered on Twitter by both sets of fans.
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: bmb on Tue 14 Sep 2021 22:02
I agree as QPR fan I find it ridiculous to have a Ref so close to the home team

Why? Stroud is not a fan of bmth, has no ties to the club, why should a referee have to travel "a certain distance" to prove they are neutral?

He's getting battered on Twitter by both sets of fans. Both seemed to think he 'ruined' the game. I wasn't watching but the complaints seem to be general as opposed to in relation to a particular incident.
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: Hendo on Tue 14 Sep 2021 10:58
Langford and Linington both injured?
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: GingerReferee on Mon 13 Sep 2021 16:23
As its tomorrow, no, not yet

Lol, sorry thought it was Saturday
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: RCG on Mon 13 Sep 2021 12:48
As its tomorrow, no, not yet
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: GingerReferee on Mon 13 Sep 2021 12:04
Did Kevin Friend complete his game?
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: RCG on Sun 12 Sep 2021 10:23
I would also query Mings "tackle" as the deepest orange, if not red. No control in challenge, launched in. I thought red.
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: RCG on Sun 12 Sep 2021 09:17
I think there was 2 red cards missed at Blackburn. This "tackle" also highlights the unfairness of post match disciplinary action. Had the officials done nothing, this tackle gets reviewed and a red card imposed. Because the yellow is issued there can be no retrospective action. Langford nor AR1 would have had the best angle - Andy Haines' involvement should have started then.
The 2 footed lunge after a late whistle should also have seen red.
Knowing the ref came off I did watch him closely and he was definitely slowing down as the game went on (although Haines is hardly the most athletic replacement)
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: Skydank on Sat 11 Sep 2021 22:45
No complaints about the result at brammel lane today, but as a Posh fan the foul count of 18 to 1 did highlight some of Mr Martin's inconsistencies

Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: DBLTFC on Sat 11 Sep 2021 09:04
Who is scheduling these refs. Langford refereeing Luton for the second time in about 3-4 weeks?

And comes off injured with a calf problem, replaced by Andy Haines for injury time. He ruled out a perfectly good goal and missed a blatant red card in the first 5-10 minutes.
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: rustyref on Tue 07 Sep 2021 21:00
The previous postcode rule was silly.  I live in London, had I made it to the heady heights of the Football League I would have been precluded from officiating any team with a London postcode.  Yet I could do, for example, Barnet and Watford, who are closer to me than some of the London teams I couldn't go to.  And given I support a team in the North of England, and have absolutely no interest in any London teams, that really shows what an absurdity the rule was.
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: bmb on Tue 07 Sep 2021 18:11
I agree as QPR fan I find it ridiculous to have a Ref so close to the home team

The last I knew, Mr. Stroud was based in Gillingham (Dorset) some 30 miles away. He's not as local as he was before. In the PL, Greater Manchester based Refs Messrs. Taylor, Kavanagh and Tierney are often given home games at Manchester United or Manchester City which PGMOL think is OK too.

I think he is Hampshire based now.  When in Gillingham the postcode rule was still in effect so he didn't referee AFCB. He would turn up to do ground checks in winter if there was a danger of a game being called off but that was it.  He only refereed us once he had moved out of Dorset.  No problem at all with neutrality though, he's a Luton Town fan I believe. I think he may have gone to Bournemouth boys grammar school at one time, but not 100% sure on that. Agree with you re Kavanagh, Taylor & Tierney. Different if a ref has links to a cub either via supporting them or they/an immediate relative have played in the academy or one of the clubs teams but just living within a few miles of the ground is no reason, imo.
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: Seagull on Tue 07 Sep 2021 17:23
I agree as QPR fan I find it ridiculous to have a Ref so close to the home team

The last I knew, Mr. Stroud was based in Gillingham (Dorset) some 30 miles away. He's not as local as he was before. In the PL, Greater Manchester based Refs Messrs. Taylor, Kavanagh and Tierney are often given home games at Manchester United or Manchester City which PGMOL think is OK too.
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: RCG on Tue 07 Sep 2021 14:54
I agree as QPR fan I find it ridiculous to have a Ref so close to the home team

Why? Stroud is not a fan of bmth, has no ties to the club, why should a referee have to travel "a certain distance" to prove they are neutral?
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: Lk1961 on Tue 07 Sep 2021 13:12
I agree as QPR fan I find it ridiculous to have a Ref so close to the home team
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: T on Mon 06 Sep 2021 19:36
West Bromwich Albion FC (First Team) v Derby County FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Friend, Kevin
Assistant Referee: Eaton, Derek
Assistant Referee: Smith, Wade
Fourth Official: Finnie, Will


Second consecutive week that young Finnie is on board duties to a SG1 official… Just a coincidence?
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: RCG on Mon 06 Sep 2021 17:44
Followed by another "local" in Keith Stroud

John Busby (in stark contrast to those promoted to SG1) on his 5th or 6th game already. Builds confidence and reputation
Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 06 Sep 2021 16:32
J J with a short trip across the Solent to see bmb.



Title: Re: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: aaa on Mon 06 Sep 2021 16:13
Tue 14th Sep 2021
AFC Bournemouth (First Team) v Queens Park Rangers FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Stroud, Keith
Assistant Referee: Cooper, Ian
Assistant Referee: Byrne, George
Fourth Official: Smith, Joshua

Blackburn Rovers FC (First Team) v Hull City (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Brooks, John
Assistant Referee: Cann, Darren
Assistant Referee: Smart, Edward
Fourth Official: Backhouse, Anthony

Blackpool FC (First Team) v Huddersfield Town FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Bramall, Thomas
Assistant Referee: Hudson, Shaun
Assistant Referee: Dermott, Philip
Fourth Official: Edwards, Marc

Reading FC (First Team) v Peterborough United FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Robinson, Tim
Assistant Referee: Lugg, Nigel
Assistant Referee: Smith, Rob
Fourth Official: Davies, Andy

Sheffield United FC (First Team) v Preston North End FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Eltringham, Geoff
Assistant Referee: Jones, Matthew Merchant, Robert
Assistant Referee: Greenhalgh, Nick
Fourth Official: Langford, Oliver Webb, David

West Bromwich Albion FC (First Team) v Derby County FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Friend, Kevin
Assistant Referee: Eaton, Derek
Assistant Referee: Smith, Wade
Fourth Official: Finnie, Will

Wed 15th Sep 2021
Birmingham City F C (First Team) v Fulham (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Webb, David
Assistant Referee: Pottage, Mark
Assistant Referee: Howson, Akil
Fourth Official: Toner, Ben

Bristol City (First Team) v Luton Town (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Simpson, Jeremy
Assistant Referee: Kane, Graham
Assistant Referee: Leach, Daniel
Fourth Official: Woolmer, Andy Huxtable, Brett

Coventry City FC (First Team) v Cardiff City FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Salisbury, Michael
Assistant Referee: Hatzidakis, Constantine
Assistant Referee: Perry, Marc
Fourth Official: Martin, Stephen

Nottingham Forest F.C. (First Team) v MIDDLESBROUGH (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Linington, James Woolmer, Andy
Assistant Referee: George, Michael
Assistant Referee: Gill, Bhupinder
Fourth Official: Drysdale, Darren

Stoke City FC (First Team) v Barnsley FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Doughty, Leigh
Assistant Referee: Aspinall, Natalie
Assistant Referee: Dwyer, Mark
Fourth Official: Ward, Gavin

Swansea City FC (First Team) v Millwall FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Busby, John
Assistant Referee: Meredith, Steven
Assistant Referee: Fox, Andrew
Fourth Official: Whitestone, Dean
Title: Fri 11th – Wed 15th SEP 2021
Post by: aaa on Mon 06 Sep 2021 16:13
Fri 10th Sep 2021
Birmingham City F C (First Team) v Derby County FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Ward, Gavin
Assistant Referee: Fox, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Taylor, Craig
Fourth Official: Bramall, Thomas

Sat 11th Sep 2021
AFC Bournemouth (First Team) v Barnsley FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Linington, James
Assistant Referee: Hyde, Robert
Assistant Referee: Leach, Daniel
Fourth Official: Howard, Paul

Blackburn Rovers FC (First Team) v Luton Town (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Langford, Oliver
Assistant Referee: Hodskinson, Paul
Assistant Referee: Wild, Richard
Fourth Official: Haines, Andy

Blackpool FC (First Team) v Fulham (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Busby, John
Assistant Referee: Meredith, Steven
Assistant Referee: Jones, Matthew
Fourth Official: Joyce, Ross

Bristol City (First Team) v Preston North End FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Robinson, Tim
Assistant Referee: Lugg, Nigel
Assistant Referee: Cooper, Ian
Fourth Official: Sarginson, Christopher Atkin, Ryan

Coventry City FC (First Team) v MIDDLESBROUGH (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Doughty, Leigh
Assistant Referee: Greenhalgh, Nick
Assistant Referee: Waters, Adrian
Fourth Official: Allison, Sam

Reading FC (First Team) v Queens Park Rangers FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Eltringham, Geoff
Assistant Referee: George, Michael
Assistant Referee: Kane, Graham
Fourth Official: Huxtable, Brett

Sheffield United FC (First Team) v Peterborough United FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Martin, Stephen
Assistant Referee: Dallison, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Barnard, Nik
Fourth Official: Kitchen, Andrew

Stoke City FC (First Team) v Huddersfield Town FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Smith, Joshua
Assistant Referee: McGrath, Matthew
Assistant Referee: Hunt, Jonathan
Fourth Official: Bell, James  Rhodes, Garreth

Swansea City FC (First Team) v Hull City (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Stroud, Keith
Assistant Referee: Merchant, Robert
Assistant Referee: Lewis, Sam
Fourth Official: Wright, Peter

West Bromwich Albion FC (First Team) v Millwall FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Woolmer, Andy
Assistant Referee: Wilson, James
Assistant Referee: Venamore, Lee
Fourth Official: Bramall, Thomas

Sun 12th Sep 2021
Nottingham Forest F.C. (First Team) v Cardiff City FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Whitestone, Dean
Assistant Referee: Pottage, Mark
Assistant Referee: Liddle, Geoffrey
Fourth Official: Smith, Joshua