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General Refereeing => Legacy Appointment Boards => Select Group 2 => Topic started by: aaa on Mon 07 Sep 2020 16:07

Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: flipmode on Sat 19 Sep 2020 14:34
Watched Jarred Gillett for the third time today - he put in a very solid performance and for me, he is one the best of the current SG2. For me, he should be getting more and more exposure in the PL.

He let a lot go, played advantages at the right time and didn't make any critical errors.

Good to hear. Thanks for your well reasoned post.
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: Seagull on Thu 17 Sep 2020 10:23
Disappointing to see Stroud get the opener after the play-off game last season.

The SG2 list has half been updated for the new season - https://www.efl.com/clubs-and-competitions/match-officials/select-group-two-officials/select-group-2-match-officials/

I say half because the new people have been added but Jones/England are still on the list - their attempts at doing it alphabetically aren't fully successful either! How hard can it be to put a list of names together?!

James Adcock isn't on it.

As per last season, James Linington is still not listed.

I sent the EFL an e-mail about this last week and they have now updated the SG2 profile page. Darren England and Rob Jones have been removed (now SG1 of course), James Linington has been added. Sadly, they haven't corrected the minor error in Michael Salisbury's profile where they refer to him as "Josh" in the last paragraph.
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: RCG on Mon 14 Sep 2020 15:08
That will be a letter from FA Towers and a 2 week "holiday"
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: rustyref on Mon 14 Sep 2020 13:18
Technically two professional referees.  You also wonder whether the assistants could / should have been on comms bailing them out
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: ajb95 on Mon 14 Sep 2020 12:10
Unusual incident at Pride Park.  The first time the ball went out of play at the start of the second half Darren Bond went over to talk to his fourth official Ollie Langford as Derby had brought on a substitute at half time without informing the officials.  The player, Nathan Byrne, was duly summoned and cautioned. Byrne was making his debut for Derby having joined from Wigan a few days earlier so received a yellow card in the first minute of his debut for the club.

I have seen a comment on line saying the yellow card was incorrect in law but I am not certain if that is correct.
The yellow card was incorrect:

Law 3.5
If a substitution is made during the half-time interval or before extra time, the procedure must be completed before the match restarts.  If the referee is not informed, the named substitute may continue to play, no disciplinary action is taken and the matter is reported to the appropriate authorities.

Oh dear, very bad for a professional referee to be getting that wrong!
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: Ref Watcher on Mon 14 Sep 2020 11:45
Unusual incident at Pride Park.  The first time the ball went out of play at the start of the second half Darren Bond went over to talk to his fourth official Ollie Langford as Derby had brought on a substitute at half time without informing the officials.  The player, Nathan Byrne, was duly summoned and cautioned. Byrne was making his debut for Derby having joined from Wigan a few days earlier so received a yellow card in the first minute of his debut for the club.

I have seen a comment on line saying the yellow card was incorrect in law but I am not certain if that is correct.
The yellow card was incorrect:

Law 3.5
If a substitution is made during the half-time interval or before extra time, the procedure must be completed before the match restarts.  If the referee is not informed, the named substitute may continue to play, no disciplinary action is taken and the matter is reported to the appropriate authorities.
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: Game of Throw Ins on Mon 14 Sep 2020 10:36
Unusual incident at Pride Park.  The first time the ball went out of play at the start of the second half Darren Bond went over to talk to his fourth official Ollie Langford as Derby had brought on a substitute at half time without informing the officials.  The player, Nathan Byrne, was duly summoned and cautioned. Byrne was making his debut for Derby having joined from Wigan a few days earlier so received a yellow card in the first minute of his debut for the club.

I have seen a comment on line saying the yellow card was incorrect in law but I am not certain if that is correct.
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: Hendo on Sun 13 Sep 2020 18:09
Jeremy Simpson's decision to book Jacob Brown for simulation yesterday in the Stoke game was ridiculous.

Seems like he has started the new season as he finished the old one (and the previous one, and the previous one etc etc)
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: bmb on Sun 13 Sep 2020 13:43
Are you sure that your friends are not conflating the two ex-FL referees' named Singh?  In my experience (I worked with both) Jarnail was much better than his namesake.

Yes we know them apart. Jarnail saved all his dreadful games for Dean Court - it was not a happy ground for him.
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: DBLTFC on Sun 13 Sep 2020 11:05
Jeremy Simpson's decision to book Jacob Brown for simulation yesterday in the Stoke game was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: Leggy on Sun 13 Sep 2020 10:29
Are you sure that your friends are not conflating the two ex-FL referees' named Singh?  In my experience (I worked with both) Jarnail was much better than his namesake.
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: bmb on Sat 12 Sep 2020 22:17
thankfully no VAR!

It's so good to be back in the Championship!

Amen to that!

I didn't watch the AFCB game - it clashed with the NBI & I have my priorities! No mention on Twitter or the forums anywhere about the ref and no-one has yelled at me over a decision. I'm assuming he turned up or that may have been noticed so I can only assume Mr Ward didn't upset the home crowd. In fact the only mention of the match officials at all has been comments on Bhupinder Gill being Jarnail Singh's son & what a better official he appears to be than his dad!! Followed by a host of do you remember such and such a game where his dad had an absolute shocker!

Enjoy the season carrowman
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: carrowman on Sat 12 Sep 2020 20:40
Instead of starting a thread on a specific referee which probably no one has seen as it isn't live on sky/bt, probably best to just add a comment about the relevant SG2 game in the weekly appointments.

Geoff Eltringham (Huddersfield v Norwich) missed two fairly clear penalties,oh for VAR! which after the game he apologised to the Norwich manager for missing and also failing to give Cantwell a red (only a yellow) for leading with his elbow, thankfully no VAR!

It's so good to be back in the Championship!
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: DBLTFC on Sat 12 Sep 2020 19:46
Watched Jarred Gillett for the third time today - he put in a very solid performance and for me, he is one the best of the current SG2. For me, he should be getting more and more exposure in the PL.

He let a lot go, played advantages at the right time and didn't make any critical errors.
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: SuffolkRef on Thu 10 Sep 2020 20:11
Also the last part of Michael Salisbury's profile is a copy and paste effort from Josh Smith.
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: Acme Thunderer on Thu 10 Sep 2020 20:06
This seems to have been sorted now although James Linington appears to be shy of appearing on camera. As suggested, James Adcock has dropped off the SG2 list and it seems as though he will concentrate his efforts in the FL which, given the length of time he has been out of action with injury, is perhaps not surprising. A pity if this is the case as he was one of the better refs when he was fit and deserved his place on the SG2 list.
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: SuffolkRef on Thu 10 Sep 2020 11:37
Disappointing to see Stroud get the opener after the play-off game last season.

The SG2 list has half been updated for the new season - https://www.efl.com/clubs-and-competitions/match-officials/select-group-two-officials/select-group-2-match-officials/

I say half because the new people have been added but Jones/England are still on the list - their attempts at doing it alphabetically aren't fully successful either! How hard can it be to put a list of names together?!

James Adcock isn't on it.

As per last season, James Linington is still not listed.
Title: Re: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: Readingfan on Thu 10 Sep 2020 11:30
Disappointing to see Stroud get the opener after the play-off game last season.

The SG2 list has half been updated for the new season - https://www.efl.com/clubs-and-competitions/match-officials/select-group-two-officials/select-group-2-match-officials/

I say half because the new people have been added but Jones/England are still on the list - their attempts at doing it alphabetically aren't fully successful either! How hard can it be to put a list of names together?!

James Adcock isn't on it.
Title: Fri 11th & Sat 12th SEP 2020
Post by: aaa on Mon 07 Sep 2020 16:07
Fri 11th Sep 2020
Watford FC (First Team) v MIDDLESBROUGH (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Stroud, Keith
Assistant Referee: Lugg, Nigel
Assistant Referee: Cooper, Ian
Fourth Official: Smith, Joshua

Sat 12th Sep 2020
AFC Bournemouth (First Team) v Blackburn Rovers FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Ward, Gavin
Assistant Referee: Kane, Graham
Assistant Referee: Gill, Bhupinder
Fourth Official: Waters, Adrian

Barnsley FC (First Team) v Luton Town (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Gillett, Jarred
Assistant Referee: Aspinall, Natalie
Assistant Referee: Hodskinson, Paul
Fourth Official: Webb, David

Birmingham City F C (First Team) v Brentford FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Harrington, Tony
Assistant Referee: Hudson, Shaun
Assistant Referee: Dermott, Philip
Fourth Official: Salisbury, Michael

Bristol City (First Team) v Coventry City FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Brooks, John
Assistant Referee: Greenhalgh, Nick
Assistant Referee: Howson, Akil
Fourth Official: Crysell, Adam

Cardiff City FC (First Team) v Sheffield Wednesday FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Madley, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Lennard, Harry
Assistant Referee: Smart, Edward
Fourth Official: Pottage, Mark

Derby County FC (First Team) v Reading FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Bond, Darren
Assistant Referee: Russell, Mark
Assistant Referee: Byrne, George
Fourth Official: Langford, Oliver

Huddersfield Town FC (First Team) v Norwich City FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Eltringham, Geoff
Assistant Referee: Merchant, Robert
Assistant Referee: Taylor, Craig
Fourth Official: Doughty, Leigh

Millwall FC (First Team) v Stoke City FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Simpson, Jeremy
Assistant Referee: Hyde, Robert
Assistant Referee: Fitch-Jackson, Carl
Fourth Official: Whitestone, Dean

Preston North End FC (First Team) v Swansea City FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Jones, Robert
Assistant Referee: Holmes, Adrian
Assistant Referee: Mainwaring, James
Fourth Official: Wild, Richard

Queens Park Rangers FC (First Team) v Nottingham Forest F.C. (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Robinson, Tim
Assistant Referee: Fox, Andrew
Assistant Referee: Venamore, Lee
Fourth Official: Lewis, Sam  Lugg, Nigel

Wycombe Wanderers FC (First Team) v Rotherham United FC (First Team)
Football League Championship    
Referee: Linington, James
Assistant Referee: Smith, Wade
Assistant Referee: Jones, Matthew
Fourth Official: Donohue, Matthew