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John Treleven

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Referees of Inter-League Internationals
« on: Wed 28 Jul 2021 18:28 »
There was an Association of Football Statisticians booklet on these matches in the 1980s/1990s

I am not sure if it contained referee details but if someone has a copy could they extract these please?

There is an online link which says it is free but you have to provide your credit card details
including the three numbers on the back, so I am not going down that road

These are those I cannot find on the newspaper archive

The second part is those found but needing first names

1   27   1   1894   Scottish League   v   Irish League   
2   27   2   1904   Scottish League   v   Irish League   
3   2   10   1911   Scottish League   v   Southern League   
4   16   10   1911   Football League   v   Irish League   
5   30   9   1912   Football League   v   Southern League   
6   23   10   1912   Irish League   v   Football League   
7   2   3   1940   Football League   v   British XI   
8   18   3   1940   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
9   22   3   1940   Football League   v   British XI   
10   17   3   1941   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
11   14   4   1941   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
12   17   3   1942   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
13   6   4   1942   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
14   2   5   1942   Football League   v   Western Command   
15   26   4   1943   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
16   10   4   1944   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
17   17   3   1945   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
18   2   4   1945   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
19   18   3   1946   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
20   22   4   1946   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
21   17   3   1947   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
22   7   4   1947   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
23   30   4   1947   League of Ireland   v   Football League   
24   14   1   1948   Scottish League   v   Irish League   
25   17   3   1948   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
26   29   3   1948   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
27   17   3   1949   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
28   18   4   1949   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
29   19   5   1951   Welsh League   v   Irish League   
30   14   4   1952   Irish League   v   Western Command   
31   5   5   1953   Denmark XI   v   Football League   
32   19   4   1954   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
33   11   10   1955   Denmark    v   Scottish League   
34   17   3   1958   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
35   12   4   1960   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
36   17   3   1961   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
37   17   3   1962   League of Ireland   v   Italian Semi-Pro    
38   14   11   1962   Italian League   v   Scottish League   
39   18   3   1963   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
40   4   5   1963   Italian Semi-Pro    v   Irish League   
41   2   10   1963   League of Ireland   v   Football League   
42   15   4   1964   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
43   26   4   1978   Italy "B"   v   Scottish League   
44   17   5   1989   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
45   7   3   1995   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
46   1   11   2000   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
                     
1   10   2   1894   Irish League   v   Football League   R. Irvine (Belfast)
2   21   4   1894   Football League   v   Scottish League   R. Irvine (Belfast)
3   13   10   1913   Scottish League   v   Southern League   Sgt . Major Vick (Glasgow)
4   5   4   1919   Scottish League   v   Football League   G.W. Hamilton (Motherwell)
5   21   9   1927   Football League   v   Irish League   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
6   22   9   1928   Irish League   v   Football League   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
7   7   11   1931   Scottish League   v   Football League   J. Hudson (Glasgow)
8   17   3   1943   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   W. Behan (Dublin)
9   17   3   1944   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   W. Behan (Dublin)
10   30   4   1947   Irish League   v   Scottish League   N. Boal (Newtonards)
11   22   10   1947   Irish League   v   Football League   N. Boal (Newtonards)
12   24   4   1948   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   H. Malone (Dublin)
13   29   9   1948   Scottish League   v   League of Ireland   R.G. "Bert" Benzie (Irvine)
14   4   5   1949   League of Ireland   v   Football League   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
15   19   10   1949   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   E. Boland (Dublin)
16   17   3   1950   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   R.J. Fehily (Cork)
17   27   9   1950   Irish League   v   Scottish League   G.H. Moore (Belfast)
18   26   3   1951   Irish League   v   Western Command   J.S. Cox (Rutherglen, Glasgow)
19   4   4   1951   League of Ireland   v   Football League   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
20   5   9   1951   Irish League   v   Welsh League   J.S. Cox (Rutherglen, Glasgow)
21   17   3   1953   League of Ireland   v   Football League   M. Byrne (Dublin)
22   25   11   1953   Irish League   v   Western Command   J. Davidson (Newtonards)
23   17   3   1954   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   M. Byrne (Dublin)
24   22   9   1954   League of Ireland   v   Football League   T. Ryan (Dublin)
25   17   3   1955   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   M. Byrne (Dublin)
26   21   9   1955   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   W. Waldron (Dublin)
27   12   2   1956   League of Ireland   v   Hesse League   J. Larkin (Dublin)
28   2   4   1956   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   R. Reid (Belfast)
29   25   4   1956   Irish League   v   Football League   R. Reid (Belfast)
30   5   9   1956   Irish League   v   Scottish League   R. Reid (Belfast)
31   19   9   1956   League of Ireland   v   Football League   T. Crawley (Dundalk)
32   21   11   1956   Irish League   v   Western Command   R. Reid (Belfast)
33   5   12   1956   Irish League   v   Irish XI   R. Reid (Belfast)
34   9   10   1957   Scottish League   v   Irish League   W. Harvie (Dalry)
35   13   11   1957   Irish League   v   Western Command   J. Russell (Belfast)
36   29   10   1958   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   H. Brown (Belfast)
37   17   3   1959   League of Ireland   v   Football League   T. Barton (Dublin)
38   2   9   1959   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   K. Redmond (Dublin)
39   14   9   1960   League of Ireland   v   Football League   J.G. Igoe (Dublin)
40   4   10   1961   Scottish League   v   Irish League   W. Elliott (Barrhead)
41   28   11   1962   Scottish League   v   League of Ireland   J. Stewart (Paisley)
42   25   10   1967   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   P. Kiely (Limerick)
43   22   9   1971   League of Ireland   v   Football League   D. Barrett (Cork)







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Re: Referees of Inter-League Internationals
« Reply #1 on: Thu 29 Jul 2021 16:46 »
Norman Boal (Newtonards)
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Re: Referees of Inter-League Internationals
« Reply #3 on: Sun 01 Aug 2021 20:51 »
Updated list after AFS booklet contents extracted

Missing Referees

01   30   5   1892   Scottish League   v   Scottish Alliance   
02   16   10   1911   Football League   v   Irish League   
03   30   9   1912   Football League   v   Southern League   
04   2   3   1940   Football League   v   British XI   
05   22   3   1940   Football League   v   British XI   
06   6   4   1942   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
07   2   5   1942   Football League   v   Western Command   
08   26   4   1943   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
09   17   3   1945   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
10   2   4   1945   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
11   30   4   1947   League of Ireland   v   Football League   
12   29   3   1948   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
13   17   3   1949   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   
14   18   4   1949   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   
15   19   5   1951   Welsh League   v   Irish League   
16   14   4   1952   Irish League   v   Western Command   
17   5   5   1953   Denmark XI   v   Football League   
18   16   3   1959   Scottish League   v   Scottish F.A. XI
19   1   2   1960   Scottish League   v   Scottish F.A. XI
20   24   2   1964   Scottish League   v   Scottish F.A. XI
21   15   4   1964   Irish League   v   League of Ireland
22   17   5   1989   League of Ireland   v   Irish League
23   7   3   1995   League of Ireland   v   Irish League
24   1   11   2000   League of Ireland   v   Irish League

First names needed   
                     
1   10   2   1894   Irish League   v   Football League   R. Irvine (Belfast)
2   21   4   1894   Football League   v   Scottish League   R. Irvine (Belfast)
3   13   10   1913   Scottish League   v   Southern League   Sgt. Major Vick (Glasgow)
4   5   4   1919   Scottish League   v   Football League   G.W. Hamilton (Motherwell)
5   21   9   1927   Football League   v   Irish League   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
6   22   9   1928   Irish League   v   Football League   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
7   7   11   1931   Scottish League   v   Football League   J. Hudson (Glasgow)
8   17   3   1941   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   T. Dwyer (Dublin)
9   17   3   1943   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   W. Behan (Dublin)
10   17   3   1944   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   W. Behan (Dublin)
11   18   3   1946   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   T. Butler (Dublin)
12   17   3   1947   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   W.Keane (Limerick)
13   24   4   1948   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   H. Malone (Dublin)
14   29   9   1948   Scottish League   v   League of Ireland   R.G. "Bert" Benzie (Irvine)
15   4   5   1949   League of Ireland   v   Football League   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
16   19   10   1949   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   E. Boland (Dublin)
17   17   3   1950   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   R.J. Fehily (Cork)
18   27   9   1950   Irish League   v   Scottish League   G.H. Moore (Belfast)
19   26   3   1951   Irish League   v   Western Command   J.S. Cox (Rutherglen, Glasgow)
20   4   4   1951   League of Ireland   v   Football League   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
21   5   9   1951   Irish League   v   Welsh League   J.S. Cox (Rutherglen, Glasgow)
22   17   3   1953   League of Ireland   v   Football League   M. Byrne (Dublin)
23   25   11   1953   Irish League   v   Western Command   J. Davidson (Newtonards)
24   17   3   1954   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   M. Byrne (Dublin)
25   22   9   1954   League of Ireland   v   Football League   T. Ryan (Dublin)
26   17   3   1955   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   M. Byrne (Dublin)
27   21   9   1955   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   W. Waldron (Dublin)
28   12   2   1956   League of Ireland   v   Hesse League   J. Larkin (Dublin)
29   9   10   1957   Scottish League   v   Irish League   W. Harvie (Dalry)
30   13   11   1957   Irish League   v   Western Command   J. Russell (Belfast)
31   29   10   1958   Irish League   v   League of Ireland   H. Brown (Belfast)
32   17   3   1959   League of Ireland   v   Football League   T. Barton (Dublin)
33   2   9   1959   League of Ireland   v   Scottish League   K. Redmond (Dublin)
34   28   11   1962   Scottish League   v   League of Ireland   J. Stewart (Paisley)
35   25   10   1967   League of Ireland   v   Irish League   P. Kiely (Limerick)
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Re: Referees of Inter-League Internationals
« Reply #4 on: Mon 02 Aug 2021 20:34 »
Robert Reid of Belfast is mentioned here
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=582.150
See very last post
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Re: Referees of Inter-League Internationals
« Reply #5 on: Mon 02 Aug 2021 21:38 »
Very good find, Larne press clipping 1955 confirms it was him

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Re: Referees of Inter-League Internationals
« Reply #6 on: Sat 07 Aug 2021 21:09 »
In the attached obituary for John Carpenter there is mention of a Kevin Redmond, who could be your man from 1959?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/john-carpenter-obituaryflamboyant-irish-referee-who-earned-the-universal-admiration-of-his-peers-40531628.html
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Re: Referees of Inter-League Internationals
« Reply #7 on: Sat 07 Aug 2021 21:56 »
Another good find - that is him, confirmed, inter alia, by -

Sligo Champion - 3rd January 1986
Expressions of sympathy were extended on recent bereavements -
wife and family of the late Kevin Redmond, Chief Referees Inspector of the F.A. of Ireland,