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« Reply #15 on: Tue 09 Oct 2018 17:31 »
Most interesting to hear more about Gilbert Pullin. I found this photo of the Arsenal v Man Utd match which gives a rather distant vew of him.

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« Reply #16 on: Tue 09 Oct 2018 18:14 »
Thank you AT for finding out those details about Gilbert Pullin and to olddeagle for the picture which suggests Mr. Pullin was an early exponent of the "inch of black sock above the white turnover" later associated with Gordon Hill.

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« Reply #17 on: Tue 09 Oct 2018 22:30 »
What a truly wonderful photograph. Thank you for sharing it.

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« Reply #18 on: Wed 10 Oct 2018 17:47 »
Here's the file I complied of all final officials down to 2000, which includes the Amateur Cup, but Mr Pullin didn't feature.

(John Coyle has now extended this down to the present day).

Pullin always sticks in my memory because I saw him do Arsenal 4, Man Utd 5 at Highbury the week before Munich, the last time some of those lads played in England. I was only 7 so can't say I have any great recall of his performance.
Great photos, thanks for posting them. I can't find a programme on line to identify the linesmen but perhaps some Spurs supporters out there will have one?

The younger looking linesman behind Gilbert could be Harry New, then of Havant in Hants and about to be promoted to the FL middle aged 32-33. Thin and with jet black hair which is how I remember Harry when he paid one of his frequent visits to Selhurst Park. It would certainly be nice to know for sure.

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« Reply #19 on: Wed 10 Oct 2018 19:02 »
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The younger looking linesman behind Gilbert could be Harry New, then of Havant in Hants and about to be promoted to the FL middle aged 32-33. Thin and with jet black hair which is how I remember Harry when he paid one of his frequent visits to Selhurst Park. It would certainly be nice to know for sure.

You may be right AT - a linesman on the brink of promotion would certainly be a contender for such a crucial game and the hairstyle of this man is very similar. The somewhat blurry picture of him returning to the line may help, especially as many members are adept at spotting officials from their sock and bootlace styles! The picture also offers an interesting angle across the pitch and a sight of the cerise flag that was often seen in those days.

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« Reply #20 on: Wed 21 Aug 2019 23:10 »
Watching a documentary programme on the Leeds/Bradford Airport (previously Yeadon but now known as the Yorkshire airport) showed as its Chief Executive former League referee David Laws.  I certainly wouldn't  have recognised him but he was introduced as a former referee.  I am not sure whether he was a former police officer or was that his brother?
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« Reply #21 on: Thu 22 Aug 2019 15:42 »
Watching a documentary programme on the Leeds/Bradford Airport (previously Yeadon but now known as the Yorkshire airport) showed as its Chief Executive former League referee David Laws.  I certainly wouldn't  have recognised him but he was introduced as a former referee.  I am not sure whether he was a former police officer or was that his brother?

Graham Laws was the police officer.
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« Reply #22 on: Fri 23 Aug 2019 22:02 »
Watching a documentary programme on the Leeds/Bradford Airport (previously Yeadon but now known as the Yorkshire airport) showed as its Chief Executive former League referee David Laws.  I certainly wouldn't  have recognised him but he was introduced as a former referee.  I am not sure whether he was a former police officer or was that his brother?

Graham Laws was the police officer.

They both should have been really. It was a sad day for headline writers when Billy Crook left Metropolitan Police FC after several years.

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« Reply #23 on: Fri 15 Nov 2019 20:53 »
I recall seeing Gilbert Pullin referee Leyton Orient v Arsenal what I think was the first match of the season after the O's had been  promoted.  Just found a video clip it was 1962 and you can see Gilbert quite clearly - also camera zoomed in on Billy Wright who was in the crowd.
  Can't recall there were any major problems but then referees generally had an easier time from the fans and press than they do now
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« Reply #24 on: Tue 19 Nov 2019 11:41 »
Not sure if appropriate to post in here, but talking of old refs I met and spent the afternoon with Roger Gifford over the weekend.
I used to like watching him as a referee, though clearly the first thought when he is mentioned is a certain challenge in the 91 Cup Final and yes we did speak about it   

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« Reply #25 on: Tue 19 Nov 2019 16:02 »
Not sure if appropriate to post in here, but talking of old refs I met and spent the afternoon with Roger Gifford over the weekend.
I used to like watching him as a referee, though clearly the first thought when he is mentioned is a certain challenge in the 91 Cup Final and yes we did speak about it   

Roger Gifford or Roger Milford or were they both involved in the 1991 Final? Roger Gifford was another top ref with a beard but greyish and not nearly as full as Trelford Mills or Roger Dilkes. I too liked seeing him ref, a Palace victory over Liverpool in a TV game being one of them. Largely unhurried but always seemed to be up with play.
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« Reply #26 on: Wed 20 Nov 2019 12:25 »
Not sure if appropriate to post in here, but talking of old refs I met and spent the afternoon with Roger Gifford over the weekend.
I used to like watching him as a referee, though clearly the first thought when he is mentioned is a certain challenge in the 91 Cup Final and yes we did speak about it   

Must surely be Roger MILFORD. I don't think Rodger Gifford played any part in the 1991 FA Cup Final did he?

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« Reply #27 on: Wed 20 Nov 2019 12:28 »
...or indeed any FA Cup Final of any year

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« Reply #28 on: Thu 28 Nov 2019 10:22 »
I came across this picture recently and found it and the story that went with it interesting. I thought that it might be one for folk to try and identify.

The image is subject to copyright and I have the refeee's permission to use.  The photograph was taken in Hong Kong.

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« Reply #29 on: Thu 28 Nov 2019 15:03 »
I came across this picture recently and found it and the story that went with it interesting. I thought that it might be one for folk to try and identify.

The image is subject to copyright and I have the refeee's permission to use.  The photograph was taken in Hong Kong.
Interesting. The left hand one of the referee's two badges looks a bit like the RAF FA badge, which might fit with the location.  Appearance wise he looks a bit like John Martin (Alton, Hants) but I don't recall him being in the RAF.  Or could it be John Deakin, who definitely was?