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Can anyone help with any of these?

1937   Line   A. Billington (Blackpool)
1986   Line   A. Gallagher (Dublin)
1957   Line   A. McKenzie (Coatbridge)
1905   Line   A. Robertson (Belfast)
1931   Line   A. Ure (Blackpool)
1963   Line   A. Walker (Belfast)
1927   Ref   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
1928   Ref   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
1936   Line   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
1971   Line   A.M. McEwan (Glasgow)
1976   Line   A.M. McEwan (Glasgow)
1967   Line   A.S. McNair (Glasgow)
1898   Line   Andrews (Dundee)
1907   Line   Brock (Belfast)
1899   Line   C. McShane (Belfast)
1971   Line   C. O'Leary (Dublin)
1995   Line   C. Prentice (N.Ireland)
1908   Line   C. Smith (Kilmarnock)
1960   Line   D. Barnes (Glasgow)
1943   Line   D. Blair (Dublin)
1969   Line   D. Henderson (Wishaw)
1953   Line   D. Kyle (Glasgow)
1955   Line   D. Kyle (Glasgow)
1960   Line   D. Kyle (Glasgow)
1961   Line   D. Kyle (Glasgow)
1935   Line   D. McAllister (Belfast)
1924   Line   D. McMeekin (Newry)
1949   Line   D. Stevenson (Glasgow)
1976   Line   D.A. Grant (Edinburgh)
1954   Line   D.H. Graham (Lisburn)
1935   Line   D.J. McAllister (Belfast)
1901   Line   D.R. Montgomery (Glasgow)
1963   Line   D.W. Copp (Hemel Hempstead, Herts)
1903   Line   Dawson (Belfast)
1949   Ref   E. Boland (Dublin)
1951   Line   E. Boland (Dublin)
1953   Line   E. Boland (Dublin)
1958   Line   E. Cleary (Limerick)
1962   Line   E. Harkin (Glasgow)
1949   Line   E. Mason
1949   Line   E. Whelan (Dublin)
1949   Line   F.S. Crossley (Motherwell)
1956   Line   G. Boland (Dublin)
1956   Line   G. O'Leary (Dublin)
1957   Line   G. Pickard (Dublin)
1969   Line   G.D. McIntyre (Glasgow)
1950   Ref   G.H. Moore (Belfast)
1919   Ref   G.W. Hamilton (Motherwell)
1958   Ref   H. Brown (Belfast)
1961   Line   H. Brown (Belfast)
1961   Line   H. Brown (Belfast)
1962   Line   H. Brown (Belfast)
1966   Line   H. Dempsey (Croy)
1948   Ref   H. Malone (Dublin)
1951   Line   H. Malone (Dublin)
1911   Line   H. McAlinden (Belfast)
1954   Line   H. Taylor (Salford, Manchester)
1910   Line   H. Thompson (Southern League)
1958   Line   H. Wallace (Belfast)
1965   Line   H.B. McNicol (Clydebank)
1908   Line   H.McCloy (Belfast)
1956   Line   I. Larkin (Dublin)
1956   Line   J. Bruce (Newcastle)
1929   Line   J. Cummings (Belfast)
1950   Line   J. Davidson (Belfast)
1952   Ref   J. Davidson (Newtonards)
1953   Line   J. Davidson (Newtonards)
1953   Ref   J. Davidson (Newtonards)
1961   Line   J. Dearie (East Kilbride)
1943   Line   J. Ferguson (Belfast)
1949   Line   J. Garnett (Dublin)
1962   Line   J. Hall (Crewe)
1931   Ref   J. Hudson (Glasgow)
1897   Line   J. Johnson (Belfast)
1956   Ref   J. Larkin (Dublin)
1899   Line   J. McFarlane (Glasgow)
1950   Line   J. McGrath (Waterford)
1900   Line   J. McInerney (Belfast)
1938   Line   J. McKeown (Belfast)
1957   Line   J. McNiven (Stonehouse)
1954   Line   J. Mullen (Dublin)
1957   Line   J. O'Donnell (Limerick)
1958   Line   J. O'Donnell (Limerick)
1951   Line   J. Pickering (Motherwell)
1957   Ref   J. Russell (Belfast)
1961   Line   J. Russell (Belfast)
1964   Line   J. Russell (Belfast)
1964   Line   J. Russell (Belfast)
1955   Line   J. Rutherford (Glasgow)
1956   Line   J. Scully (Dublin)
1959   Line   J. Scully (Dublin)
1956   Line   J. Somers (Dublin)
1962   Ref   J. Stewart (Paisley)
1938   Line   J. Ward (Altrincham)
1953   Line   J.A. Paterson (Glasgow)
1951   Line   J.B. Johnstone (East Kilbride)
1958   Line   J.C. Ferguson (Barnton)
1962   Line   J.C. Mitchell (Paisley)
1963   Line   J.C. Mitchell (Paisley)
1961   Line   J.D. Workman (Glasgow)
1969   Line   J.D. Workman (Glasgow)
1969   Line   J.D. Workman (Glasgow)
1965   Line   J.H. Hayes (Kikintilloch)
1925   Line   J.H. Walsh (Portadown)
1930   Line   J.J. Conroy (Dublin)
1913   Line   J.J. Doyle (Belfast)
1958   Line   J.L. Brown (Glasgow)
1962   Line   J.R. Grant (Glasgow)
1963   Line   J.R. Grant (Glasgow)
1951   Ref   J.S. Cox (Rutherglen, Glasgow)
1951   Ref   J.S. Cox (Rutherglen, Glasgow)
1958   Line   J.S. Watson (Glasgow)
1911   Line   J.T. Gibb (Belfast)
1958   Line   J.W. Fulton (Belfast)
1958   Line   J.W. Fulton (Belfast)
1910   Line   J.W. Harris (Football League)
1958   Line   J.W. Paterson (Grangemouth)
1950   Line   Jackson (Dundalk)
1953   Ref   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1954   Line   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1954   Ref   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1955   Line   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1955   Ref   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1954   Line   M. Graham (Paisley)
1995   Line   M. Ross (N.Ireland)
1949   Ref   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
1951   Ref   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
1953   Line   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
1898   Line   Melville (Belfast)
1986   Line   P. Cahill (Dublin)
1944   Line   P. Finnegan (Dublin)
1967   Ref   P. Kiely (Limerick)
1949   Line   P. O'Keane (Wishaw)
1951   Line   P. O'Keane (Wishaw)
1970   Line   P.J. McGuire (Glasgow)
1961   Line   R. Gordon (Glasgow)
1961   Line   R. Gordon (Glasgow)
1929   Line   R. Innes (Glasgow)
1894   Ref   R. Irvine (Belfast)
1894   Ref   R. Irvine (Belfast)
1930   Line   R. Morrison (Falkirk)
1951   Line   R. Taylor (Bearsden)
1954   Line   R. Taylor (Bearsden)
1971   Line   R.C. Johnston (Strathaven)
1948   Ref   R.G. "Bert" Benzie (Irvine)
1956   Line   R.G. Arbuthnot (Belfast)
1959   Line   R.G. Arbuthnot (Belfast)
1950   Ref   R.J. Fehily (Cork)
1953   Line   R.J. Quail (Belfast)
1951   Line   R.S.Major McDermott (Army)
1959   Line   R.V. Buckley (Cork)
1949   Line   R.W. Jeffrey  (Glasgow)
1937   Line   S. Hall (Portadown)
1947   Line   S. McKitttrick (Belfast)
1909   Line   S. Mortimer (Drumcondra)
1898   Line   Sgt. J. Haywood (Belfast)
1913   Ref   Sgt. Major Vick (Glasgow)
1962   Line   T . Kellock (Glasgow)
1961   Line   T .R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1944   Line   T. Butler (Dublin)
1946   Ref   T. Butler (Dublin)
1941   Ref   T. Dwyer (Dublin)
1953   Line   T. Mullen (Dublin)
1954   Line   T. Mullen (Dublin)
1934   Line   T. Pendleton (Belfast)
1936   Line   T. Pentland (Belfast)
1923   Line   T. Rodgers (Prescot, Lancashire)
1952   Line   T. Ryan (Dublin)
1954   Line   T. Ryan (Dublin)
1954   Ref   T. Ryan (Dublin)
1955   Line   T. Ryan (Dublin)
1967   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glagsow)
1957   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1958   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1959   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1965   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1970   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1978   Line   T.T. Gilbert (East Kilbride)
1943   Ref   W. Behan (Dublin)
1944   Ref   W. Behan (Dublin)
1957   Line   W. Blackwell (Glasgow)
1933   Line   W. Booth (Preston)
1960   Line   W. Dunlop (Ballymoney)
1957   Ref   W. Harvie (Dalry)
1948   Ref   W. Keane (Limerick)
1927   Line   W. Lowes (Whitley Bay)
1961   Line   W. Morrison (Clydebank)
1949   Line   W. O'Neill
1893   Line   W. Potter (Belfast)
1965   Line   W. Toward (Glasgow)
1956   Line   W. Truelock (Dublin)
1955   Ref   W. Waldron (Dublin)
1953   Line   W. Williams (Belfast)
1958   Line   W.F. Guild (Glasgow)
1959   Line   W.F. Guild (Glasgow)
1966   Line   W.F. Guild (Glasgow)
1973   Line   W.H. Quinn (Stewarton)
1931   Line   W.R. Boyd (Belfast)
1961   Line   W.S. Black (Glasgow)
1955   Line   W/O. F. Gordon (Army, Ballymena)
1956   Line   W/O. F. Gordon (Army, Ballymena)
1957   Line   W/O. F. Gordon (Army, Ballymena)

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H.Dempsey was frequently called Hughie in the Sunday Post,but not 100% sure.....

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I assumed this was Harry Dempsey, briefly a Scottish League referee, who came from Bishopbriggs, a stop or two along from Croy.

A.McKenzie suggests the FIFA referee Alistair, who started in Coatbridge, subsequently moving to Larbert.

Ronnie Gordon also made the referees' list, as did Tom Kellock, by then of East Kilbride.

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Updated and now sorted by country and date

      ENGLAND
1910   Line   H. Thompson (Southern League)
1910   Line   J.W. Harris (Football League)
1954   Line   H. Taylor (Salford, Manchester)
1956   Line   J. Bruce (Newcastle)
1962   Line   J. Hall (Crewe)
      SCOTLAND
1898   Line   Andrews (Dundee)
1899   Line   J. McFarlane (Glasgow)
1901   Line   D.R. Montgomery (Glasgow)
1908   Line   C. Smith (Kilmarnock)
1913   Ref   Sgt. Major Vick (Glasgow)
1919   Ref   G.W. Hamilton (Motherwell)
1927   Ref   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
1928   Ref   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
1929   Line   R. Innes (Glasgow)
1930   Line   R. Morrison (Falkirk)
1931   Ref   J. Hudson (Glasgow)
1936   Line   A.B. Williamson (Glasgow)
1948   Ref   R.G. "Bert" Benzie (Irvine)
1949   Line   D. Stevenson (Glasgow)
1949   Line   F.S. Crossley (Motherwell)
1949   Line   P. O'Keane (Wishaw)
1949   Line   R.W. Jeffrey  (Glasgow)
1951   Line   J. Pickering (Motherwell)
1951   Line   J.B. Johnstone (East Kilbride)
1951   Ref   J.S. Cox (Rutherglen, Glasgow)
1951   Ref   J.S. Cox (Rutherglen, Glasgow)
1951   Line   P. O'Keane (Wishaw)
1951   Line   R. Taylor (Bearsden)
1953   Line   D. Kyle (Glasgow)
1953   Line   J.A. Paterson (Glasgow)
1954   Line   M. Graham (Paisley)
1954   Line   R. Taylor (Bearsden)
1955   Line   D. Kyle (Glasgow)
1955   Line   J. Rutherford (Glasgow)
1957   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1957   Line   W. Blackwell (Glasgow)
1957   Ref   W. Harvie (Dalry)
1958   Line   J.C. Ferguson (Barnton)
1958   Line   J.L. Brown (Glasgow)
1958   Line   J.S. Watson (Glasgow)
1958   Line   J.W. Paterson (Grangemouth)
1958   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1958   Line   W.F. Guild (Glasgow)
1959   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1959   Line   W.F. Guild (Glasgow)
1960   Line   D. Barnes (Glasgow)
1960   Line   D. Kyle (Glasgow)
1961   Line   D. Kyle (Glasgow)
1961   Line   J.D. Workman (Glasgow)
1961   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1961   Line   W.S. Black (Glasgow)
1962   Line   E. Harkin (Glasgow)
1962   Ref   J. Stewart (Paisley)
1962   Line   J.R. Grant (Glasgow)
1963   Line   J.R. Grant (Glasgow)
1965   Line   H.B. McNicol (Clydebank)
1965   Line   J.H. Hayes (Kikintilloch)
1965   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1966   Line   W.F. Guild (Glasgow)
1967   Line   A.S. McNair (Glasgow)
1967   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1969   Line   D. Henderson (Wishaw)
1969   Line   G.D. McIntyre (Glasgow)
1969   Line   J.D. Workman (Glasgow)
1969   Line   J.D. Workman (Glasgow)
1970   Line   P.J. McGuire (Glasgow)
1970   Line   T.R. Thomson (Glasgow)
1971   Line   A.M. McEwan (Glasgow)
1971   Line   R.C. Johnston (Strathaven)
1976   Line   A.M. McEwan (Glasgow)
1976   Line   D.A. Grant (Edinburgh)
1978   Line   T.T. Gilbert (East Kilbride)
      IRELAND
1893   Line   W. Potter (Belfast)
1894   Ref   R. Irvine (Belfast)
1894   Ref   R. Irvine (Belfast)
1897   Line   J. Johnson (Belfast)
1898   Line   Melville (Belfast)
1898   Line   Sgt. J. Haywood (Belfast)
1899   Line   C. McShane (Belfast)
1900   Line   J. McInerney (Belfast)
1903   Line   Dawson (Belfast)
1905   Line   A. Robertson (Belfast)
1907   Line   Brock (Belfast)
1908   Line   H.McCloy (Belfast)
1909   Line   S. Mortimer (Drumcondra)
1911   Line   H. McAlinden (Belfast)
1911   Line   J.T. Gibb (Belfast)
1913   Line   J.J. Doyle (Belfast)
1924   Line   D. McMeekin (Newry)
1925   Line   J.H. Walsh (Portadown)
1929   Line   J. Cummings (Belfast)
1930   Line   J.J. Conroy (Dublin)
1931   Line   W.R. Boyd (Belfast)
1934   Line   T. Pendleton (Belfast)
1935   Line   D. McAllister (Belfast)
1935   Line   D.J. McAllister (Belfast)
1936   Line   T. Pentland (Belfast)
1937   Line   S. Hall (Portadown)
1938   Line   J. McKeown (Belfast)
1941   Ref   T. Dwyer (Dublin)
1943   Line   D. Blair (Dublin)
1943   Line   J. Ferguson (Belfast)
1943   Ref   W. Behan (Dublin)
1944   Line   P. Finnegan (Dublin)
1944   Line   T. Butler (Dublin)
1944   Ref   W. Behan (Dublin)
1946   Ref   T. Butler (Dublin)
1947   Line   S. McKitttrick (Belfast)
1948   Ref   H. Malone (Dublin)
1948   Ref   W. Keane (Limerick)
1949   Ref   E. Boland (Dublin)
1949   Line   E. Mason (Dublin)
1949   Line   E. Whelan (Dublin)
1949   Line   J. Garnett (Dublin)
1949   Ref   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
1950   Ref   G.H. Moore (Belfast)
1950   Line   J. Davidson (Belfast)
1950   Line   J. McGrath (Waterford)
1950   Line   Jackson (Dundalk)
1950   Ref   R.J. Fehily (Cork)
1951   Line   E. Boland (Dublin)
1951   Line   H. Malone (Dublin)
1951   Ref   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
1951   Line   R.S.Major McDermott (Army)
1952   Ref   J. Davidson (Newtonards)
1952   Line   T. Ryan (Dublin)
1953   Line   E. Boland (Dublin)
1953   Line   J. Davidson (Newtonards)
1953   Ref   J. Davidson (Newtonards)
1953   Ref   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1953   Line   M.E. Boland (Dublin)
1953   Line   R.J. Quail (Belfast)
1953   Line   T. Mullen (Dublin)
1953   Line   W. Williams (Belfast)
1954   Line   D.H. Graham (Lisburn)
1954   Line   J. Mullen (Dublin)
1954   Line   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1954   Ref   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1954   Line   T. Mullen (Dublin)
1954   Line   T. Ryan (Dublin)
1954   Ref   T. Ryan (Dublin)
1955   Line   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1955   Ref   M. Byrne (Dublin)
1955   Line   T. Ryan (Dublin)
1955   Ref   W. Waldron (Dublin)
1955   Line   W/O. F. Gordon (Army, Ballymena)
1956   Line   G. Boland (Dublin)
1956   Line   G. O'Leary (Dublin)
1956   Line   I. Larkin (Dublin)
1956   Ref   J. Larkin (Dublin)
1956   Line   J. Scully (Dublin)
1956   Line   J. Somers (Dublin)
1956   Line   R.G. Arbuthnot (Belfast)
1956   Line   W. Truelock (Dublin)
1956   Line   W/O. F. Gordon (Army, Ballymena)
1957   Line   G. Pickard (Dublin)
1957   Line   J. O'Donnell (Limerick)
1957   Ref   J. Russell (Belfast)
1957   Line   W/O. F. Gordon (Army, Ballymena)
1958   Line   E. Cleary (Limerick)
1958   Ref   H. Brown (Belfast)
1958   Line   H. Wallace (Belfast)
1958   Line   J. O'Donnell (Limerick)
1958   Line   J.W. Fulton (Belfast)
1958   Line   J.W. Fulton (Belfast)
1959   Line   J. Scully (Dublin)
1959   Line   R.G. Arbuthnot (Belfast)
1959   Line   R.V. Buckley (Cork)
1960   Line   W. Dunlop (Ballymoney)
1961   Line   H. Brown (Belfast)
1961   Line   H. Brown (Belfast)
1961   Line   J. Russell (Belfast)
1962   Line   H. Brown (Belfast)
1963   Line   A. Walker (Belfast)
1964   Line   J. Russell (Belfast)
1964   Line   J. Russell (Belfast)
1967   Ref   P. Kiely (Limerick)
1971   Line   C. O'Leary (Dublin)
1986   Line   A. Gallagher (Dublin)
1986   Line   P. Cahill (Dublin)
1995   Line   C. Prentice (N.Ireland)
1995   Line   M. Ross (N.Ireland)

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If memory serves me right, the John Gordon affair came to light when linesman Rollo Kyle's dad, who I think was said to have been a referee himself, happened to mention to a footballing acquaintance how generous the gifts had been. Rollo Kyle (first name Thomas) was born in 1940. In 1937, one Donald McPhail Kyle married a Catherine C M Rollo, both events being in Glasgow, though in different registration districts. Could this be the D Kyle that appears several times?

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JR Grant was presumably the SFL referee,(whom I once saw at Forfar) whose demotion led to threats of strike action by referees in the 70s.If I remember aright, he had a stay of execution, but did not last long thereafter. He was by then based in Larbert. Records show a John Rennie Grant died in Larbert aged 75 in 2010 - and his birth was in Kelvingrove, Glasgow. This may be a coincidence, of course, as the combination of forenames John R and surname Grant is not that uncommon, but it would appear to be a very possible match.

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Partick v Aberdeen 3rd Feb 1982
Players wore black armbands
In memory of former referee Donald Kyle

John R. Grant of Larbert
Many references 1966-75
but nothing earlier of him at any other town/city

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I assumed this was Harry Dempsey, briefly a Scottish League referee, who came from Bishopbriggs, a stop or two along from Croy.

A.McKenzie suggests the FIFA referee Alistair, who started in Coatbridge, subsequently moving to Larbert.

Ronnie Gordon also made the referees' list, as did Tom Kellock, by then of East Kilbride.


Is that the same Harry Dempsey who subsequently relocated to the Manchester area, maybe Stockport, and became a FL linesman ? If so, he was later than that. I encountered him after his relocation but whilst he was still an active official, and that was in 1984.

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Harry Dempsey was a tax inspector in Glasgow whose last match in Scotland was to referee Motherwell v Falkirk on 28th October 1972

His job took him to Chelmsford where he was listed as an F.L. linesman in 1973-74

He moved again, to Nottingham, where he is listed for 1980-81 & 1981-82

Possibly he then moved to Stockport and came off the F.L. list as he not named in 1983-84

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I did not know about the Manchester area, associating him with Nottinghamshire and, if he was the linesman in the 1979 Cup Final, Chelmsford. Henry Dempsey was born in Cumbernauld (close to Croy) in 1941, so the line appointment in 1966 would not have been impossible for a young official considered promising at that time.
I believe he died in 1999 in Nottingham.

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Henry "Harry" Dempsey, who died in Nottingham in Q1 1999, was born 26th May 1941 and was therefore only 57

He was on the line for the 1979 F.A. Cup Final two weeks before his 38th birthday

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Presumably Mr R.G. 'Bert' Benzie was Robert: Roberts often get called Bert in Scotland.

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Yes probably, I was looking for confirmation

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A Robert Goudie Benzie died in Irvine in 1971, aged 67.