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Author Topic: When will officials realise how many foul throws they let go?  (Read 1036 times)

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Watching West Ham v Leeds and I have just seen Weston McKennie take three one handed throws, one from which Rodrigo scored.
It is not just this game that I have noticed that he gets away with it, his long throws are always one-handed, as
can be seen with the amount of spin which is on the ball because his right hand propels the flight.
In addition, the number of players who get away with lifting their back foot or just dropping the ball is getting crazy.
Nit-picking? Possibly. Against the LOTG? Definitely.
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Watching West Ham v Leeds and I have just seen Weston McKennie take three one handed throws, one from which Rodrigo scored.
It is not just this game that I have noticed that he gets away with it, his long throws are always one-handed, as
can be seen with the amount of spin which is on the ball because his right hand propels the flight.
In addition, the number of players who get away with lifting their back foot or just dropping the ball is getting crazy.
Nit-picking? Possibly. Against the LOTG? Definitely.

Just another one of the Laws that our top referees are allowed to ignore.
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Watching West Ham v Leeds and I have just seen Weston McKennie take three one handed throws, one from which Rodrigo scored.
It is not just this game that I have noticed that he gets away with it, his long throws are always one-handed, as
can be seen with the amount of spin which is on the ball because his right hand propels the flight.
In addition, the number of players who get away with lifting their back foot or just dropping the ball is getting crazy.
Nit-picking? Possibly. Against the LOTG? Definitely.

Just another one of the Laws that our top referees are allowed to ignore.

In the interests of entertainment and keeping the game moving and, as I've said in the past, I don't have a particular problem with it.

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I don't know if the throw-in law has changed over the years, but as the law stands currently I'm struggling to see any reason to disallow this.  There are three requirements: facing the pitch, have part of each foot on or behind the touchline, and throw the ball with both hands from behind and over the head from where it left play.  He used both hands, and it doesn't say that one hand can't be more dominant than the other.

I think the fact that no one is talking about it, not the opposition, not the commentators, not the pundits, etc, suggests it is something of a non-issue.
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“And where it left play”. We are lucky if it is within five yards,,,I’ve seen fast bowlers take shorter run-ups. The current thinking seems to be “start your run from where it went out of play.”
Another example of ruining the game I used to love.
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“And where it left play”. We are lucky if it is within five yards,,,I’ve seen fast bowlers take shorter run-ups. The current thinking seems to be “start your run from where it went out of play.”
Another example of ruining the game I used to love.

Sorry, I cannot agree. In my 60 years of watching FL and PL football, one of my pet hates has always been referees pulling up players for moving forwards (or back) by a few yards at a throw in. Yes OK, if a throw is likely to end up in the goal mouth, it needs to be taken from the correct spot, but not otherwise. And how often now do you see throw-ins going backwards. Same with short free kicks which seem to be the norm now. Let's keep the game moving I say!   
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Ok, if that’s what you want rewrite the law,but if it’s a law it’s a law, not an option, and I’m sorry if you ever saw me and were upset, but I found generally it was only needed to stop one or two and they got the message.
Any other laws you want ignored ? I dislike the modern game because of the attitude that is running through it that players can ignore the laws if they wish.


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“And where it left play”. We are lucky if it is within five yards,,,I’ve seen fast bowlers take shorter run-ups. The current thinking seems to be “start your run from where it went out of play.”
Another example of ruining the game I used to love.

Sorry, I cannot agree. In my 60 years of watching FL and PL football, one of my pet hates has always been referees pulling up players for moving forwards (or back) by a few yards at a throw in. Yes OK, if a throw is likely to end up in the goal mouth, it needs to be taken from the correct spot, but not otherwise. And how often now do you see throw-ins going backwards. Same with short free kicks which seem to be the norm now. Let's keep the game moving I say!
I would argue that you can keep the game moving and still have free kicks and throw ins taken from the correct place, what we have now is just players getting away with whatever they want to and not just throw ins or free kicks, reminds me of the school playground games without a referee.
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Also, corners where the ball has a distant relationship with the arc!!!   Perhaps the law should require themajority of the ball should be inside the arc.
Has any senior referee ever permitted the same positioning of the ball in respect to the penalty spot?
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Also, corners where the ball has a distant relationship with the arc!!!   Perhaps the law should require themajority of the ball should be inside the arc.
Has any senior referee ever permitted the same positioning of the ball in respect to the penalty spot?
What are penalty spots i hear coming from the dorset area.
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Also, corners where the ball has a distant relationship with the arc!!!   Perhaps the law should require themajority of the ball should be inside the arc.
Has any senior referee ever permitted the same positioning of the ball in respect to the penalty spot?

I have seen the ball positioned with just part overhanging the spot on several occasions this season. It is within the Laws as they are interpreted these days.
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Also, corners where the ball has a distant relationship with the arc!!!   Perhaps the law should require themajority of the ball should be inside the arc.
Has any senior referee ever permitted the same positioning of the ball in respect to the penalty spot?

I have seen the ball positioned with just part overhanging the spot on several occasions this season. It is within the Laws as they are interpreted these days.

Nothing to do with how they are interpreted, it is how they are written.  For the ball to be in the corner arc it just needs to be touching the line, just the same a a ball touching the touchline is still in play.  Not really sure what your point is.

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Also, corners where the ball has a distant relationship with the arc!!!   Perhaps the law should require themajority of the ball should be inside the arc.
Has any senior referee ever permitted the same positioning of the ball in respect to the penalty spot?

I have seen the ball positioned with just part overhanging the spot on several occasions this season. It is within the Laws as they are interpreted these days.

Nothing to do with how they are interpreted, it is how they are written.  For the ball to be in the corner arc it just needs to be touching the line, just the same a a ball touching the touchline is still in play.  Not really sure what your point is.
Not touching - overhanging!
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There is a view that you don't need to go looking for issues, they will find you.
Pulling up foul throws, it seems, falls within this view
It is viewed by some as not likely to have a significant impact on the game in progress so to repeatedly penalise it will just cause frustration and irritation to players an supporters.
Quite how selectively overlooking part of Law can be acceptable I don't know but it seems that throw ins are following the same route as jewellery into the desirable but not mandatory element.

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Also, corners where the ball has a distant relationship with the arc!!!   Perhaps the law should require themajority of the ball should be inside the arc.
Has any senior referee ever permitted the same positioning of the ball in respect to the penalty spot?

I have seen the ball positioned with just part overhanging the spot on several occasions this season. It is within the Laws as they are interpreted these days.

Nothing to do with how they are interpreted, it is how they are written.  For the ball to be in the corner arc it just needs to be touching the line, just the same a a ball touching the touchline is still in play.  Not really sure what your point is.
Not touching - overhanging!

Oh yes, which is exactly how goal line technology determines a goal. If one small part of the ball is overhanging the line, it is not a goal and this applies in every other aspect of the game, although the human eye would find it very difficult to judge millimetres in this aspect, similar to so many throws which are given when the whole of the ball has not crossed the whole of the line. No doubt the powers that be will be introducing more technology to rectify that situation at some point.
The quest for the perfect game goes on relentlessly, it is such a shame that they can't get rid of the humans who play it and officiate.
Referee's decision used to be final!