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Re: Time wasting premier league.
« Reply #15 on: Sat 11 Mar 2023 15:05 »
"I get the point about 'sympathy injury time' where the score differential is large, but on the other hand goals scored/difference can be vital and IMHO, added time should be universally applied in all cases"

Collina did say about games 'where the score dosent affect others' ie knock out games, not league matches
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Re: Time wasting premier league.
« Reply #16 on: Sat 11 Mar 2023 15:15 »
At least we shouldn't be getting so much time wasting with chit-chat on MOTD tonight! And as for ITV with their FL Highlights programme, one of these days I'm going to put a clock on how much FL football we actually see in two hours. I'll get my coat!

« Last Edit: Sun 12 Mar 2023 11:51 by Acme Thunderer »
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Re: Time wasting premier league.
« Reply #17 on: Sat 11 Mar 2023 15:26 »
For all there was a lot of added time in the first two group rounds of the World Cup, it mysteriously disappeared, or at least massively lessened, and it was reported that this was following discussions with broadcasters.  And there in lies the problem, partly broadcasters and their schedules, but I suspect the majority of supporters don't want to see boards with 15 minutes going up and would eventually start to complain.
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Re: Time wasting premier league.
« Reply #18 on: Sat 11 Mar 2023 16:24 »
At least we shouldn't be getting so much time wasting with chit-chat on MOTD tonight! And as for ITV with their FL Highlights programme, one of these days I'm going to put a clock on how much FL football we actually see in two hours. I'll get my coat!

Not a lot I record it to take out adverts and talking and can watch a 2 hr program in half hr to 40 mins
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Re: Time wasting premier league.
« Reply #19 on: Sat 11 Mar 2023 23:08 »
Woeful timekeeping from Michael Salisbury in the Championship game between Reading and Millwall today.

Four stoppages for Millwall head injuries whether real or imaginary, a couple of other injuries, five substitutions (admittedly in three ‘windows’) plus some time wasting yet only three minutes added.

We had guessed at least five minutes. I doubt either team would have scored if the correct stoppage time had been played but we should have had the chance to find out.

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Re: Time wasting premier league.
« Reply #20 on: Sun 12 Mar 2023 11:50 »
At least we shouldn't be getting so much time wasting with chit-chat on MOTD tonight! And as for ITV with their FL Highlights programme, one of these days I'm going to put a clock on how much FL football we actually see in two hours. I'll get my coat!


Best MOTD in a long while. Goals galore, key incidents shown and absolutely no commentary or punditry. And I stayed awake throughout the 20 minutes. Keep it coming I say!
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Re: Time wasting premier league.
« Reply #21 on: Sun 12 Mar 2023 12:42 »
I am all for free speech and I sympathise with lineker in that regard. However, motd has been a dismal, tedious watch for many years, in fact it must be around 5 years since I watched an episode in full
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Re: Time wasting premier league.
« Reply #22 on: Sun 12 Mar 2023 13:39 »
At least we shouldn't be getting so much time wasting with chit-chat on MOTD tonight! And as for ITV with their FL Highlights programme, one of these days I'm going to put a clock on how much FL football we actually see in two hours. I'll get my coat!


Best MOTD in a long while. Goals galore, key incidents shown and absolutely no commentary or punditry. And I stayed awake throughout the 20 minutes. Keep it coming I say!
The programme did not cater for the blind, which maybe against bbc regulations.
The bbc are today showing wsl with world feed commentary so it could have been done, hope the national institute for the blind take action against the bbc.
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Re: Time wasting premier league.
« Reply #23 on: Sun 12 Mar 2023 19:32 »
Oppositiom player standing in front of the ball when trying to take a fk is another one that annoys me, book then for delaying restart and that will stop quickly

This was a mandatory caution when it was introduced and referees (certainly at Contrib Level) were hammered by Assessors for not enforcing it.  Another case of lack of back-bone in the face of whinging clubs.

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Re: Time wasting premier league.
« Reply #24 on: Sun 12 Mar 2023 21:32 »
At least we shouldn't be getting so much time wasting with chit-chat on MOTD tonight! And as for ITV with their FL Highlights programme, one of these days I'm going to put a clock on how much FL football we actually see in two hours. I'll get my coat!


Best MOTD in a long while. Goals galore, key incidents shown and absolutely no commentary or punditry. And I stayed awake throughout the 20 minutes. Keep it coming I say!
The programme did not cater for the blind, which maybe against bbc regulations.
The bbc are today showing wsl with world feed commentary so it could have been done, hope the national institute for the blind take action against the bbc.

WSL is different.  BBC are not licensed to use any other commentary feeds for MoTD on Premier League games, including those that are used by their BBC World broadcasts.  An outlier in the broadcast contract perhaps, but if they can't use their own commentators on EPL games they cannot use any other feeds.

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Re: Time wasting premier league.
« Reply #25 on: Sun 12 Mar 2023 21:57 »
At least we shouldn't be getting so much time wasting with chit-chat on MOTD tonight! And as for ITV with their FL Highlights programme, one of these days I'm going to put a clock on how much FL football we actually see in two hours. I'll get my coat!


Best MOTD in a long while. Goals galore, key incidents shown and absolutely no commentary or punditry. And I stayed awake throughout the 20 minutes. Keep it coming I say!
The programme did not cater for the blind, which maybe against bbc regulations.
The bbc are today showing wsl with world feed commentary so it could have been done, hope the national institute for the blind take action against the bbc.

WSL is different.  BBC are not licensed to use any other commentary feeds for MoTD on Premier League games, including those that are used by their BBC World broadcasts.  An outlier in the broadcast contract perhaps, but if they can't use their own commentators on EPL games they cannot use any other feeds.
Thanks for the info rustyref, i have recently seen that elsewhere in the press And happy you have corrected me.
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Re: Time wasting premier league.
« Reply #26 on: Sun 12 Mar 2023 22:34 »
Have to say I'm not convinced by Collina's arguments in the article.

Players waste time to break up the flow of play and give their team time or get a breather & reorganise as much as waste time in my opinion. Adding additional time on will not stop that element of it.

I think the best solution would be for referee's and authorities to take a much stricter line on time wasting and book players much earlier when it happens and then have the back bone to actually send players off if/when it continues. Too often I feel officials leave it too late in games to issue cautions to have an impact. I also feel referee's are so unlikely to give a player a second caution for timewasting that players continue to time waste even after a yellow in that knowledge. There would a short term uplift in dismissals for timewasting - but I feel it would have the greater long term impact rather than adding 10+ minutes of stoppage time, in which players will still run the clock down and disrupt the flow of the game.

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Re: Time wasting premier league.
« Reply #27 on: Mon 13 Mar 2023 04:19 »
I think both are possible.

Adding on more additional time shouldn't be a substitute for not taking action against clear timewasting.

But equally there are a lot of stoppages where either no one is to blame or blame is difficult to prove - VAR reviews, subs, injuries. I think accurately recording these and adding on the time lost would certainly be a move in the right direction and is long overdue.
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