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Re: The VAR thread
« Reply #1020 on: Sat 17 Apr 2021 22:31 »
Not sure how Kavanagh as var in wolves v sheff utd didnt ask Jones to visit the screen in the first half.
Brewster booked for a foul on Ait Nouri who had gone over the ball and connected with Brewster just above the ankle.
To me watching live it was a red card for Ait Nouri.
I can ustand Jones not seeing it as his line of vision was probably restricted by both players bodies, but was quite close to the touchline at the dugout side in wolves defending half. Not sure from the pics if Cann has a good view either.

Hope kavanagh has a better semi final tomorrow, especially if he doesnt see that challenge as a red card offence.
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Re: The VAR thread
« Reply #1021 on: Sun 18 Apr 2021 09:48 »
Not sure how Kavanagh as var in wolves v sheff utd didnt ask Jones to visit the screen in the first half.
Brewster booked for a foul on Ait Nouri who had gone over the ball and connected with Brewster just above the ankle.
To me watching live it was a red card for Ait Nouri.
I can ustand Jones not seeing it as his line of vision was probably restricted by both players bodies, but was quite close to the touchline at the dugout side in wolves defending half. Not sure from the pics if Cann has a good view either.

Hope kavanagh has a better semi final tomorrow, especially if he doesnt see that challenge as a red card offence.

Agreed can’t believe Brewster was cautioned.
It’s no wonder players are frustrated when injustices like that go unpunished

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Re: The VAR thread
« Reply #1022 on: Sun 18 Apr 2021 10:00 »
Not sure how Kavanagh as var in wolves v sheff utd didnt ask Jones to visit the screen in the first half.
Brewster booked for a foul on Ait Nouri who had gone over the ball and connected with Brewster just above the ankle.
To me watching live it was a red card for Ait Nouri.
I can ustand Jones not seeing it as his line of vision was probably restricted by both players bodies, but was quite close to the touchline at the dugout side in wolves defending half. Not sure from the pics if Cann has a good view either.

Hope kavanagh has a better semi final tomorrow, especially if he doesnt see that challenge as a red card offence.
Just seen it on MotD - completely agree that IMO it's a red card for the Wolves player.

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Re: The VAR thread
« Reply #1023 on: Sun 23 May 2021 15:08 »
As one of the vice-chairmen of the MLSZ referee committee, Sándor Puhl professionally managed the preparations for the introduction of the video judging system (VAR) in Hungary planned for the autumn.

As reported by nso.hu, at the annual general meeting of the MLSZ on May 14 (online in view of the epidemic), President Sándor Csányi spoke about the fact that many of those who have a role in the introduction of VAR have fallen ill, which may delay the introduction of the for the start of the next league season (the system has already been tested in the top league matches anyway). In his interview with our paper after the general meeting, the president of the MLSZ also said that despite the many unforeseen obstacles, there is at least an eighty percent chance that the VAR will be implemented according to the planned schedule, as it has the necessary professional background and is currently education is also taking place. To the previous interest of our paper, the following answer was received from the communication department of the Hungarian Football Association: “Implementing VAR is a complex task involving many experts. The effects of the epidemic severely hampered processes. In all cases, the association has found reassuring solutions to the problems that have arisen, so that preparations for the introduction of VAR are well under way. ”

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Re: The VAR thread
« Reply #1025 on: Thu 10 Jun 2021 20:28 »
"Premier League will use thicker lines to call marginal offside decisions with VAR next season, with the aim to give the attacker the benefit of the doubt"

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« Reply #1026 on: Fri 11 Jun 2021 06:56 »
However its done, Offside is still a binary thing - it is either offside or not offside and someone will still be called offside by "a toenail". 

So the moaning will not cease - unless, football introduces the equivalent of "umpire's call".  But for that, the ARs will have to make the "call" (as opposed to today's "wait and see" protocols" and - as long as it is within an agreed tolerance level- what they say goes.  It does mean that you could have two identical scenarios with one called offside and the other not, but that is what happens in cricket and they sort of accept that.  Might be a bit of a stretch for football though?
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Re: The VAR thread
« Reply #1027 on: Fri 11 Jun 2021 09:19 »
"Premier League will use thicker lines to call marginal offside decisions with VAR next season, with the aim to give the attacker the benefit of the doubt"

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Allowing different competitions to decide the thickness of the lines sounds minor but it's actually allowing different margins of error.  Offside in one competition won't be offside in another.  I can't see IFAB standing quietly on the sidelines without issuing a standard for long. 
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Re: The VAR thread
« Reply #1028 on: Fri 11 Jun 2021 13:20 »
Or we could go back to the old days of being level ...

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Re: The VAR thread
« Reply #1029 on: Fri 11 Jun 2021 14:37 »
However its done, Offside is still a binary thing - it is either offside or not offside and someone will still be called offside by "a toenail". 

So the moaning will not cease - unless, football introduces the equivalent of "umpire's call".  But for that, the ARs will have to make the "call" (as opposed to today's "wait and see" protocols" and - as long as it is within an agreed tolerance level- what they say goes.  It does mean that you could have two identical scenarios with one called offside and the other not, but that is what happens in cricket and they sort of accept that.  Might be a bit of a stretch for football though?

Agree totally.  This will change nothing.  Even if you say a player has to be two yards offside to be penalised, the 'pundits' will then start kicking off about the ones that are two yards and half an inch.  It matters precious little where you draw the line, it's the perception of it that needs to change.  The sooner everyone just accepts that some marginal calls will go for you and some against then these pointless conversations will stop.

Personally, I've always thought a far easier way of judging offside (and selling the decisions to the masses) would be just to use position of the feet.

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Re: The VAR thread
« Reply #1030 on: Wed 16 Jun 2021 20:32 »
What about only the part off the body you actually score with has to be i.e. score with a header your head must have been onside
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Re: The VAR thread
« Reply #1031 on: Thu 17 Jun 2021 09:22 »
What about only the part off the body you actually score with has to be i.e. score with a header your head must have been onside

It might not be the ‘scorer’ who is offside
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