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Author Topic: Stuart Attwell Bournemouth vs Crystal Palace  (Read 2112 times)

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Right result though and Eddie Howe clearly has problems.

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In my opinion the tackle by Cahill is reckless and deserves a yellow card. Do I personally agree with this? No, personally I favor Ashinngton’s view but unfortunately I do not think it’s in line with the current laws and interpretations. The clean manner in which he plays the ball can be taken into account to an extent but not enough to avoid yellow imo. As for a red? Possibly, there is force and contact with the studs to the lower shin, more yellow for me although had a red been given I don’t think VAR should have interviewed the same for no action/ a yellow. So in my opinion Simon Hooper was 100% correct not to intervene, it’s not a clear and obvious error either way.

I should emphasize that these are my views based on how the current law and interpretation should be applied, not my personal view on what the law should be.
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Right result though and Eddie Howe clearly has problems.

Agree

I will however add that there is no-one I would rather see in charge at AFCB than Eddie & Jason. If we are relegated, and it does look more likely than not, then I hope we can keep a hold of them. I can't imagine life at Dean Court without them there.
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I am sorry ARF but I do not believe that this picture proves the case for a red card. The ball can be seen moving off to the right which was where it was always going once Cahill played the ball. The picture does not actually show Cahill making contact with King's ankle, although I accept that contact was made. King's ankle appears to be already bent which may help to answer why he had to go off. I would accept that a caution was justified, but not a red card. I will collect my tin hat for any responses.
Not going to criticise for thinking it's a caution rather than a sending off (although I would argue in favour of the latter rather than the former)! I do have an issue with Ashington46's attitude of "back in my day" etc. etc. though. Football has evolved from then (IMO in general for the better, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who think differently) and judging incidents in the modern game based on what was/wasn't permissible in a bygone era simply can't be done. For me any referee giving less than a caution for this is failing to proficiently apply the Laws of the Game (as they now are), and is neglecting the safety of the player on the receiving end of the tackle, as well as any other players on the pitch, who could subsequently be tackled in a similar manner without the offender expecting/receiving any sanction.

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I am sorry ARF but I do not believe that this picture proves the case for a red card. The ball can be seen moving off to the right which was where it was always going once Cahill played the ball. The picture does not actually show Cahill making contact with King's ankle, although I accept that contact was made. King's ankle appears to be already bent which may help to answer why he had to go off. I would accept that a caution was justified, but not a red card. I will collect my tin hat for any responses.
Not going to criticise for thinking it's a caution rather than a sending off (although I would argue in favour of the latter rather than the former)! I do have an issue with Ashington46's attitude of "back in my day" etc. etc. though. Football has evolved from then (IMO in general for the better, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who think differently) and judging incidents in the modern game based on what was/wasn't permissible in a bygone era simply can't be done. For me any referee giving less than a caution for this is failing to proficiently apply the Laws of the Game (as they now are), and is neglecting the safety of the player on the receiving end of the tackle, as well as any other players on the pitch, who could subsequently be tackled in a similar manner without the offender expecting/receiving any sanction.

IMO it’s the laws that are wrong. They are constantly being moved towards a non contact sport!
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My point was more one of surprise that having adjudged it a foul and then it being subject to review for SFP Mr Atwell didn't consider it worthy of a caution.
I'm not saying whether IMHO any card would have been appropriate
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I don’t think Attwell did view it as a foul, i didn’t see him play the advantage
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I am sorry ARF but I do not believe that this picture proves the case for a red card. The ball can be seen moving off to the right which was where it was always going once Cahill played the ball. The picture does not actually show Cahill making contact with King's ankle, although I accept that contact was made. King's ankle appears to be already bent which may help to answer why he had to go off. I would accept that a caution was justified, but not a red card. I will collect my tin hat for any responses.
Not going to criticise for thinking it's a caution rather than a sending off (although I would argue in favour of the latter rather than the former)! I do have an issue with Ashington46's attitude of "back in my day" etc. etc. though. Football has evolved from then (IMO in general for the better, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who think differently) and judging incidents in the modern game based on what was/wasn't permissible in a bygone era simply can't be done. For me any referee giving less than a caution for this is failing to proficiently apply the Laws of the Game (as they now are), and is neglecting the safety of the player on the receiving end of the tackle, as well as any other players on the pitch, who could subsequently be tackled in a similar manner without the offender expecting/receiving any sanction.

IMO it’s the laws that are wrong. They are constantly being moved towards a non contact sport!

ajb ---sadly, those days will not be too far away if they keep changing TLOG in the direction that they have been going for the last few years.

All it takes is for Academies to be instructed that players should not tackle which can easily be introduced. Upcoming referees instructed that any physical contact must be a foul one way or the other and the object is achieved within a few years.
This will encourage more players to fall over at the slightest touch and will make the job of the officials more difficult than it already is.
This seems to be the direction that the modern fan wants the game  to go because the cry 'foul' for any contact on the players they support.

Yes, I do prefer the game as it used to be played, however, modern fans tell me that I watched rubbish players, the pitches were poor, the officials were even worse ----I do wonder how the game has survived, particularly when you consider that there were not very large amounts of money thrown around in those days to keep things going. Never mind, life goes on.
Referee's decision used to be final!
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Nobody allowed in to see the game at AFCB but thousands are allowed to crowd on to Bournemouth beaches, seemingly oblivious to the dangers they are putting themselves in. Madness, complete and utter madness!   
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Nobody allowed in to see the game at AFCB but thousands are allowed to crowd on to Bournemouth beaches, seemingly oblivious to the dangers they are putting themselves in. Madness, complete and utter madness!   

It's been mental down here. Grockles everywhere as you have seen on the news! Us locals are all barricaded in their homes trying to stay away from them.  The illegal parking, oh man.  Bumper to bumper down both sides of the road, all over the pavements and even just dumped in the middle of roads. Absolute nightmare for the locals and more importantly our emergency services.
Hajrá Lilák. Csak a Kispest. Hajrá Magyarok! Hajrá játékvezetői csapat! Soha ne add fel. Nincs sárga kérem!!! No Chris Kavanagh doesn't live in Ashton or even in the Greater Manchester area!!
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Right result though and Eddie Howe clearly has problems.

Agree

I will however add that there is no-one I would rather see in charge at AFCB than Eddie & Jason. If we are relegated, and it does look more likely than not, then I hope we can keep a hold of them. I can't imagine life at Dean Court without them there.

Is Neil Warnock just doing a holding job at Middlesbrough and biding his time awaiting the call?
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Nobody allowed in to see the game at AFCB but thousands are allowed to crowd on to Bournemouth beaches, seemingly oblivious to the dangers they are putting themselves in. Madness, complete and utter madness!   

It's been mental down here. Grockles everywhere as you have seen on the news! Us locals are all barricaded in their homes trying to stay away from them.  The illegal parking, oh man.  Bumper to bumper down both sides of the road, all over the pavements and even just dumped in the middle of roads. Absolute nightmare for the locals and more importantly our emergency services.

33 tons of rubbish on the beaches for someone to clear up, or so I'm told  :'(
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Nobody allowed in to see the game at AFCB but thousands are allowed to crowd on to Bournemouth beaches, seemingly oblivious to the dangers they are putting themselves in. Madness, complete and utter madness!   

It's been mental down here. Grockles everywhere as you have seen on the news! Us locals are all barricaded in their homes trying to stay away from them.  The illegal parking, oh man.  Bumper to bumper down both sides of the road, all over the pavements and even just dumped in the middle of roads. Absolute nightmare for the locals and more importantly our emergency services.

33 tons of rubbish on the beaches for someone to clear up, or so I'm told  :'(
Can't  for the life of me understand why anyone would actually get any pleasure from being in the middle of such mayhem.  Even if I was completely alone, getting burnt to a cinder on the beach on the hottest day of the year is not exactly my idea of fun.
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Nobody allowed in to see the game at AFCB but thousands are allowed to crowd on to Bournemouth beaches, seemingly oblivious to the dangers they are putting themselves in. Madness, complete and utter madness!   

It's been mental down here. Grockles everywhere as you have seen on the news! Us locals are all barricaded in their homes trying to stay away from them.  The illegal parking, oh man.  Bumper to bumper down both sides of the road, all over the pavements and even just dumped in the middle of roads. Absolute nightmare for the locals and more importantly our emergency services.

33 tons of rubbish on the beaches for someone to clear up, or so I'm told  :'(
Can't  for the life of me understand why anyone would actually get any pleasure from being in the middle of such mayhem.  Even if I was completely alone, getting burnt to a cinder on the beach on the hottest day of the year is not exactly my idea of fun.

Not forgetting these prats who’ve indeed congregated down there and in Brighton have forgot we are still in a dangerous situation.

 I hope these idiots realise when the infections rise and IF we get a second wave, that they have no reason to complain about being put in lockdown again and I hope this time any culprits don’t get furloughed. They’ll soon be screaming at the government for help despite ignoring social distancing.

Clowns.
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Good performance from Attwell, steady and let the game flow, good advantage for the Winning moment/penalty decision. Var doing its job well too
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