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Three sent off including a Shrewsbury goalkeeper after a touchline bust up causing a melee- Paul Raynor, assistant manager of Gills Red Carded too.

Not seen it but would be interested in the views of those that did watch it

Afters for both clubs must be a possibility

Would never believe Paul Raynor getting involved 😉😋😏
Guessing Steve Evans couldnt get there quick enough? 😆

Quote from: RCG on Sat 28 Aug 2021 22:55

Would never believe Paul Raynor getting involved 😉😋😏
Guessing Steve Evans couldnt get there quick enough? 😆

Steve Evans was actually blameless on this occasion and did not get involved. I know that because Steve is easily spotted in a crowd

Difficult to see who was or who was not involved, but red card to the sub goalie on the touchline was more than justified. Difficult too to determine whether Sam could or should have done more, but Sam, the AR on the dugout side and the 4O were all clearly watching what was going on from different angles, so probably got the red cards right. An unseemly scene which is not needed in football, particularly at this level where TV cams are present and young players copy their favourites.

Haven't seen it yet, but how Evans has the temerity to question the behaviour of another dugout is beyond me.

Watching the game it was clear that Alison was annoying both sets of players by his unpredictable and random awards of free kicks. He seemed to me to be uninterested, particularly in what used to be called the 9/5 confrontations. Towards the end tempers were short on a hot day and problems became more likely but he did nothing to alter his style and get on top of flash points. I don’t suppose we will ever know what caused the initial fracas between two players in isolation but from the stand it was hard to justify yellows when punches appeared to br thrown on both sides, straight reds would have avoided the further problems. Missing that the home team player had already been cautioned was at best careless but the Gillingham manager could have sorted it by a quiet word to the 4O, not by running aggressively to the touch line.
I did not see the goalkeeper incident but reports from those who did were that the home team manager went towards the away manager and the assistant manager moved towards him. In the circumstances and bearing in mind the home manager’s health problems the keeper stepped in to protect him.
A poor match by the referee who was most unimpressive and with any luck will not rise any further, ,although as in life it’s not only cream thar rises to the top. I would love to see the match observers report on this performance and surely it is about time that at least the markings were published if not a brief synopsis.  I believe there is a brief video on the blue and amber website.

I have no problems with Mr Allison and it may be that he can do far better than his performance in this match. We have all seen referees rise to a level they are not capable of dealing with and I hope this will not happen to him, but he must improve IMO.
I used to go home after matches and have a quiet time reflecting on the game I had just refereed including whether there was anything I could have done to avoid any sendings off….I hope Mr Allison does the same.

I hope I would have carried a better attitude into the game, kept nearer to play and not been random in my award of free kicks. I would also hope that I would not have given a player a second caution without sending him off, this caused a major flashpoint at the end. Once the chaos had started he was quite right to stand back and observe, there was no way he could have done otherwise, but from around 80 minutes a sending off became predictable and it was a surprise that it was only for two yellows.  I was told when things get tetchy in a match there was a need to be near to play to keep on top of it. Of course I accept that that was 30 years ago and I get the impression now that the diagonal we used to run is now a furrow down the middle and maybe there are other instructions on how to referee of which I am unaware but man management should still be an essential part,

Can i offer this coaching advice. I would have liked the referee to seperate the teams far better. Rugby Union referees do this really well. Then in this occasion call the players to you and issue cards once all the information has been written down so the referee and assistants are aware of who is on a 2nd. This also creates time for players to calm down.

While I agree in principle, it's much easier to do in rugby as the majority of the players will be separated anyway as that's how the teams line up formation-wise. And let's face it, football players simply do not listen to the officials like rugby players do.