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Quote from: bmb on Mon 13 Jan 2020 18:52

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Quote from: Kopref on Mon 13 Jan 2020 17:53

Much is often said about the logic of referee appointments regarding frequency and distances travelled but how about the assistants is any thought ever given in that direction I wonder. An example ,this Saturday coming one of the assistants on the Brighton game, who I beleive comes from the north is also on the Brighton game again on the Tuesday and this time is at Bournemouth so presumably because of the times officials have to meet before games that will involve two overnight stops and around 8oo miles + in three days ?

Or he’ll just stay down south.

I'd expect the same. An hour up/down the road from one hotel to the other which certainly makes far more sense.

Or he has declared that he is down south for the period for business or leisure reasons?

It is certainly a possibility.

Good spot by Harry Lennard (?) for the Danny Ings handball with the disallowed Southampton goal - that game had more offsides than I've seen for a while in a PL game!

I know the system of 'delay the flag'until the move has reached an end when a goal might be scored' was advocated by many last season but I'm not sure I'm a fan - I think having some way of indicating the assistant thinks it's offside in real time would be better.

Darren Cann, Nick Hopton and Simon Beck (?) all having decisions overturned by VAR this weekend. I think all were probably understandable.

Very poor decision by Massey-Ellis with the Rashford goal that was swiftly and correctly disallowed by VAR.

Hadn't she delayed her flag in accordance with the direction, until the play had been completed?

Unlike the AR (sorry, name not known) at Burnley who flagged too early, fortunately it was shown to be correct!

Isn't it any wonder that ARs are getting it wrong when they are being told to do something that is totally against the instincts they learnt to do, without thought, during their rise to the top league!!

Quote from: Readingfan on Sat 26 Sep 2020 15:56

Very poor decision by Massey-Ellis with the Rashford goal that was swiftly and correctly disallowed by VAR.

Hadn't she delayed her flag in accordance with the direction, until the play had been completed?

Unlike the AR (sorry, name not known) at Burnley who flagged too early, fortunately it was shown to be correct!

Isn't it any wonder that ARs are getting it wrong when they are being told to do something that is totally against the instincts they learnt to do, without thought, during their rise to the top league!!

No - she didn't flag even after the goal had been scored. United celebrated and Chris Kavanagh then made the VAR signal to disallow the goal.

You're right that Scott Ledger flagged too early at Burnley and Andre Marriner certainly blew too early. They were fortunate it was correct.

You're right that Scott Ledger flagged too early at Burnley and Andre Marriner certainly blew too early. They were fortunate it was correct.

Or maybe by using skill, judgement and experience they were correct.

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Quote from: Readingfan on Sat 26 Sep 2020 15:56

Very poor decision by Massey-Ellis with the Rashford goal that was swiftly and correctly disallowed by VAR.

Hadn't she delayed her flag in accordance with the direction, until the play had been completed?

Unlike the AR (sorry, name not known) at Burnley who flagged too early, fortunately it was shown to be correct!

Isn't it any wonder that ARs are getting it wrong when they are being told to do something that is totally against the instincts they learnt to do, without thought, during their rise to the top league!!

What worried me about this delayed flag business is the fact that, at Burnley last night, the same AR who flagged early did not flag on two other occasions when a player who was offside subsequently won corners. Fortunately, they did not lead to anything, however, I have noticed this has happened on a few other matches in the last couple of weeks.

The assistant is always meant to flag at the end of the move, so a corner should not be taken if they think there was an offside.

Of course an assistant can still get a decision wrong now as they always have done.

The problem is that if they score it is checked by VAR which will rule one way or another, however, they could score from the corner which should not have been given in the first place, therefore, this is not 100% correct which is what the media and the modern fan seem to want. If they are going to use technology then, as I have said many times before, they should use it for everything and get rid of the onfield officials and everyone will be happy.