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Robert Madley L2 Play-off Final Morecambe v Newport
« on: Mon 31 May 2021 16:00 »
A few incidents in the first half where Mr Madley has let things go when perhaps intervention required;

Morecambe keeper goes to punch the ball clear and makes no contact with the ball but does hit the Newport player, no penalty given.

Handball by Morecambe player where the ball is then crossed into the box, but nothing comes of it. AR was on the opposite side, couldn't be sure what Mr Madley saw.

Two footed challenge by Newport's Sheehan in Morecambe half , winning the ball but taking out the player in the follow through. Mr Madley plays on.

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Good to see that he has lost his PL hat and is refereeing a proper game of football instead of the sterile game which is played at the elite level.
Referee's decision used to be final!
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If I were a Newport fan I'd be feeling a little sore about the subjective decisions made today. Not a bad performance by any means but surely not sg2 either His questionable decisions have clearly decided a promotion and I think bobby will be disappointed when he looks back on this game .
« Last Edit: Mon 31 May 2021 17:28 by Charlieboy »
My views are my own and not that of rate the ref .
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To have your whole season decided by a decision like that will rankle for a long time
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Sorry but that penalty decision is nothing short of a disgrace. Looked like was in initially going to wave it away and then is pressured into giving it. One itís not even a foul and 2 itís outside the box.

Considering the penalty he didnít give to Newport they can feel very much aggrieved.

Deary me! :-[
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The penalty Mr Madley did award appeared to be as a result of contact outside the area and wasn't convinced at first glance there was enough to justify any foul. I also felt the YC for Newport's Demetriou seemed harsh two players seemed to be jumping for the ball and contact made in the context of cards he didn't issue elsewhere. Overall I'd agree with Charlieboy's assessment and after the plaudits for his handling of the L1 semi-final definitely a step backwards today.
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The penalty Mr Madley did award appeared to be as a result of contact outside the area and wasn't convinced at first glance there was enough to justify any foul. I also felt the YC for Newport's Demetriou seemed harsh two players seemed to be jumping for the ball and contact made in the context of cards he didn't issue elsewhere. Overall I'd agree with Charlieboy's assessment and after the plaudits for his handling of the L1 semi-final definitely a step backwards today.

Sadly, this is the way the modern game has been going for a few seasons with players 'feeling contact' and going down which is exactly what happened with the penalty. Minimal contact which was made just outside the box, however, I can understand how it looked a foul from the referee's positioning which was behind the players.
I think that Demetriou was cautioned for something he said because the Morecambe player stayed down and Demetriou definitely said something to the referee and that was when the card was produced.
Newport will feel aggrieved, however, they missed chances to win the game and Morecambe grabbed their opportunity when it was presented.
League One teams will be able to go to the seaside in Lancashire having thought that they had missed out with Blackpool's promotion.
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League One teams will be able to go to the seaside in Lancashire having thought that they had missed out with Blackpool's promotion.


Don't forget Fleetwood!
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Sorry but that penalty decision is nothing short of a disgrace. Looked like was in initially going to wave it away and then is pressured into giving it. One itís not even a foul and 2 itís outside the box.

Considering the penalty he didnít give to Newport they can feel very much aggrieved.

Deary me! :-[

Dear me indeed. That was the sort of match defining, injustice ridden performance that I thought we had seen the back of from him 3 years ago.

He must have a soft spot for Morecambe as it was there he started his comeback from exile. Would that his exile had been as long as Newport's.

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Just watching back highlights

Newport should've had a pen in first half

Multiple cases let go throughout game

Pen is a free kick

I'd suggest going to Andy for some help Bobby
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Well if that game was intended as a test to see if he is worthy of promotion to SG2 it was pretty conclusive - not good enough by a country mile. Very poor, random performance.
It will be an injustice if he does get the nod bit I very much suspect that the powers that be have already made up their minds and sadly we will see this overrated individual in SG2 next season. 🤬

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I donít remember seeing a comment from Nemesis and Hendo when Mr Madley had a fine performance at Oxford in the semi finals and yet here they are today. It would almost seem like an agenda against this individual.

I felt some of the decisions were questionable, the early penalty decision with the challenge on the goalkeeper in slow motion is clear to see but in full speed I donít think is as clear.

As for the penalty, I may be in a minority here but there is clearly a push albeit the attacker makes the most of it. The contact begins outside the area and the push ends inside the area, Sky said exactly this point. That therefore makes it a penalty kick.

Throughout the game it was very clear that Mr Madley commanded the respect of the players and smiled a lot with them. No cautions in 90 minutes and I just find it very sad that none of the people on here have ever had the pressure of such a game to deal with so we cannot possibly understand how that must feel to referee. It just seems like the same names every week cannot wait to jump on certain referees at any opportunity.

On reflection, Iíd say a soft penalty to win the game but by no means incorrect and totally wrong to say it was outside as some have. As an observer I would be saying a well controlled game, a confident referee who moved well throughout, experience was clear to see to slow the game down when needed...but a referees life hinges on one or two big decisions. For me the first could be given on another day, the one that was is absolutely not incorrect. A push is a foul and it continued into the penalty area. Iím staggered to see how people can say that is such a bad decision. In my opinion that would never have been overturned by VAR which maybe says enough.

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I donít remember seeing a comment from Nemesis and Hendo when Mr Madley had a fine performance at Oxford in the semi finals and yet here they are today. It would almost seem like an agenda against this individual.

I felt some of the decisions were questionable, the early penalty decision with the challenge on the goalkeeper in slow motion is clear to see but in full speed I donít think is as clear.

As for the penalty, I may be in a minority here but there is clearly a push albeit the attacker makes the most of it. The contact begins outside the area and the push ends inside the area, Sky said exactly this point. That therefore makes it a penalty kick.

Throughout the game it was very clear that Mr Madley commanded the respect of the players and smiled a lot with them. No cautions in 90 minutes and I just find it very sad that none of the people on here have ever had the pressure of such a game to deal with so we cannot possibly understand how that must feel to referee. It just seems like the same names every week cannot wait to jump on certain referees at any opportunity.

On reflection, Iíd say a soft penalty to win the game but by no means incorrect and totally wrong to say it was outside as some have. As an observer I would be saying a well controlled game, a confident referee who moved well throughout, experience was clear to see to slow the game down when needed...but a referees life hinges on one or two big decisions. For me the first could be given on another day, the one that was is absolutely not incorrect. A push is a foul and it continued into the penalty area. Iím staggered to see how people can say that is such a bad decision. In my opinion that would never have been overturned by VAR which maybe says enough.

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(edited)if you think that was a penalty!!
You seem to be the only one who does............bad bit of observing that!
I thought he was poor throughout.......the players weren't respecting him.....in fact Newport were getting more and more frustrated with his odd decisions.......poor understanding of what a foul is or isn't etc
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Well letís break it down then. Is there a push? Yes there is. Thatís fact. It then becomes a matter of opinion as to whether you (or Mr Madley in this case) believe it was sufficient force to make him fall over. Moving at speed as they were, itís possible. I did say the play makes the most of it which he clearly does but the angle that shows it from where the referee is looks a very clear penalty in my opinion so I can accept why he awarded it.

Did the Ďfoulí continue into the penalty area? Yes it did. That is a fact. So again it is purely down to the interpretation of whether the push had enough force for a foul. The Sky pundits accepted the foul, their expert analysis however said even though it started outside and finished inside a free kick was a better decision. Clearly they are wrong in law here.

So Iím not the only one in cloud cuckoo land at all as you suggest. The Sky pundits accept it was a foul but questioned the restart. I think from the angle the referee had it looks a clear foul, the referee gets one view remember, only their view. They donít have the benefit of a replay to decide if it was a bit soft or not
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How many times do we see a penalty given for the goalkeeper missing the ball and punching the attacker in the head?

I canít remember any...
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