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R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« on: Fri 14 Jan 2022 20:42 »
VAR extremely busy in the last five minutes and both the penalty decision and the disallowed goal were correct.

Will be interesting to see how Jones gets on in one of the derby matches.
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #1 on: Fri 14 Jan 2022 20:56 »
The referee needs to see the second incident as Butland clearly had both hands on the ball..  Stuart Attwell good call on the penalty....
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #2 on: Fri 14 Jan 2022 21:10 »
Fair enough to give the penalty but would like to see that kind of decision being applied more consistently. Think there was a game the other night (West Ham?) where a similar, more blatant, incident was ignored.

Would’ve also liked to have seen a firmer response to Vieira berating the 4O (again)
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #3 on: Fri 14 Jan 2022 21:14 »
Considering the lack of appeals from the crowd and the players in that penalty incident, it just goes to show VAR can be quite observant at times.
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #4 on: Fri 14 Jan 2022 22:04 »
All in all good from Jones. Laid back and let them play 2 correct cautions. Not sure about the penalty as there was a more blatant penalty earlier in the week at West Ham. Without VAR not sure there would have been too much fuss.
He should be seeeing the contact for the disallowed goal which is the only blemish on the night
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #5 on: Fri 14 Jan 2022 23:35 »
I would suggest that if he had clearly seen it the VAR intervention wouldn't have been needed
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #6 on: Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:09 »
Quote from: PhiltheRef on Fri 14 Jan 2022 23:35
I would suggest that if he had clearly seen it the VAR intervention wouldn't have been needed

We don't know what Mr. Jones saw or didn't see of that particular incident. We can only speculate. IF he saw what happened, which he may have done, I am surprised (even though I'm a Seagull) that he initially awarded a goal. If he didn't see the foul on the GK, then fair enough, VAR comes to the rescue.
« Last Edit: Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:12 by Seagull »
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #7 on: Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:18 »
I think from looking at the relay he was looking through a Palace player and probably didn’t see it. However, I’m disappointed he didn’t attempt to adjust his position slightly to give him a better view.

Other than that, I thought he had a decent game. Maintained control, cautions both correct and the penalty was a difficult spot in real time so good intervention from VAR.
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #8 on: Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:33 »
Quote from: Mackem ref on Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:18
I think from looking at the relay he was looking through a Palace player and probably didn’t see it. However, I’m disappointed he didn’t attempt to adjust his position slightly to give him a better view.

Other than that, I thought he had a decent game. Maintained control, cautions both correct and the penalty was a difficult spot in real time so good intervention from VAR.

I am a little surprised Messrs. Jones and Bankes (4O) didn't take firmer action against Mr. Vieira for his apparent extreme actions on the touchline. I feel he went beyond what's generally acceptable.
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #9 on: Sat 15 Jan 2022 12:04 »
Quote from: Seagull on Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:33
Quote from: Mackem ref on Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:18
I think from looking at the relay he was looking through a Palace player and probably didn’t see it. However, I’m disappointed he didn’t attempt to adjust his position slightly to give him a better view.

Other than that, I thought he had a decent game. Maintained control, cautions both correct and the penalty was a difficult spot in real time so good intervention from VAR.

I am a little surprised Messrs. Jones and Bankes (4O) didn't take firmer action against Mr. Vieira for his apparent extreme actions on the touchline. I feel he went beyond what's generally acceptable.

Are you really surprised?

The way in which dugout antics are dealt with is appalling and inconsistent, usually dependent on the profile of who’s in those dugouts.
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #10 on: Sat 15 Jan 2022 13:07 »
Quote from: TVOS on Sat 15 Jan 2022 12:04
Quote from: Seagull on Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:33
Quote from: Mackem ref on Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:18
I think from looking at the relay he was looking through a Palace player and probably didn’t see it. However, I’m disappointed he didn’t attempt to adjust his position slightly to give him a better view.

Other than that, I thought he had a decent game. Maintained control, cautions both correct and the penalty was a difficult spot in real time so good intervention from VAR.

I am a little surprised Messrs. Jones and Bankes (4O) didn't take firmer action against Mr. Vieira for his apparent extreme actions on the touchline. I feel he went beyond what's generally acceptable.

Are you really surprised?

The way in which dugout antics are dealt with is appalling and inconsistent, usually dependent on the profile of who’s in those dugouts.

Thank goodness Steve Evans was jettisoned at Gillingham. I’m sure the officials in the NL were extremely grateful.
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #11 on: Sat 15 Jan 2022 14:27 »
Quote from: TVOS on Sat 15 Jan 2022 12:04
Quote from: Seagull on Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:33
Quote from: Mackem ref on Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:18
I think from looking at the relay he was looking through a Palace player and probably didn’t see it. However, I’m disappointed he didn’t attempt to adjust his position slightly to give him a better view.

Other than that, I thought he had a decent game. Maintained control, cautions both correct and the penalty was a difficult spot in real time so good intervention from VAR.

I am a little surprised Messrs. Jones and Bankes (4O) didn't take firmer action against Mr. Vieira for his apparent extreme actions on the touchline. I feel he went beyond what's generally acceptable.

Are you really surprised?

The way in which dugout antics are dealt with is appalling and inconsistent, usually dependent on the profile of who’s in those dugouts.

Let's say "disappointed" then! I agree with the point you make. Firmer action should be taken and taken consistently.
« Last Edit: Sat 15 Jan 2022 14:29 by Seagull »
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #12 on: Sat 15 Jan 2022 19:36 »
Quote from: TheThingFromLewes on Sat 15 Jan 2022 13:07
Quote from: TVOS on Sat 15 Jan 2022 12:04
Quote from: Seagull on Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:33
Quote from: Mackem ref on Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:18
I think from looking at the relay he was looking through a Palace player and probably didn’t see it. However, I’m disappointed he didn’t attempt to adjust his position slightly to give him a better view.

Other than that, I thought he had a decent game. Maintained control, cautions both correct and the penalty was a difficult spot in real time so good intervention from VAR.

I am a little surprised Messrs. Jones and Bankes (4O) didn't take firmer action against Mr. Vieira for his apparent extreme actions on the touchline. I feel he went beyond what's generally acceptable.

Are you really surprised?

The way in which dugout antics are dealt with is appalling and inconsistent, usually dependent on the profile of who’s in those dugouts.

Thank goodness Steve Evans was jettisoned at Gillingham. I’m sure the officials in the NL were extremely grateful.

Quite, but was he ever dealt with properly and consistently? I'm not so sure, from my experience of seeing him at games.
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #13 on: Sun 16 Jan 2022 09:43 »
Quote from: TVOS on Sat 15 Jan 2022 19:36
Quote from: TheThingFromLewes on Sat 15 Jan 2022 13:07
Quote from: TVOS on Sat 15 Jan 2022 12:04
Quote from: Seagull on Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:33
Quote from: Mackem ref on Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:18
I think from looking at the relay he was looking through a Palace player and probably didn’t see it. However, I’m disappointed he didn’t attempt to adjust his position slightly to give him a better view.

Other than that, I thought he had a decent game. Maintained control, cautions both correct and the penalty was a difficult spot in real time so good intervention from VAR.

I am a little surprised Messrs. Jones and Bankes (4O) didn't take firmer action against Mr. Vieira for his apparent extreme actions on the touchline. I feel he went beyond what's generally acceptable.

Are you really surprised?

The way in which dugout antics are dealt with is appalling and inconsistent, usually dependent on the profile of who’s in those dugouts.

Thank goodness Steve Evans was jettisoned at Gillingham. I’m sure the officials in the NL were extremely grateful.

Quite, but was he ever dealt with properly and consistently? I'm not so sure, from my experience of seeing him at games.

Having had the "pleasure" on several occasions his assistant Paul Rayner is often harder work to manage. Always an interesting afternoon/evening when in their company........
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Re: R JONES - Brighton v Palace
« Reply #14 on: Sun 16 Jan 2022 10:24 »
Quote from: RefObserver on Sun 16 Jan 2022 09:43
Quote from: TVOS on Sat 15 Jan 2022 19:36
Quote from: TheThingFromLewes on Sat 15 Jan 2022 13:07
Quote from: TVOS on Sat 15 Jan 2022 12:04
Quote from: Seagull on Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:33
Quote from: Mackem ref on Sat 15 Jan 2022 10:18
I think from looking at the relay he was looking through a Palace player and probably didn’t see it. However, I’m disappointed he didn’t attempt to adjust his position slightly to give him a better view.

Other than that, I thought he had a decent game. Maintained control, cautions both correct and the penalty was a difficult spot in real time so good intervention from VAR.

I am a little surprised Messrs. Jones and Bankes (4O) didn't take firmer action against Mr. Vieira for his apparent extreme actions on the touchline. I feel he went beyond what's generally acceptable.

Are you really surprised?

The way in which dugout antics are dealt with is appalling and inconsistent, usually dependent on the profile of who’s in those dugouts.

Thank goodness Steve Evans was jettisoned at Gillingham. I’m sure the officials in the NL were extremely grateful.

Quite, but was he ever dealt with properly and consistently? I'm not so sure, from my experience of seeing him at games.

Having had the "pleasure" on several occasions his assistant Paul Rayner is often harder work to manage. Always an interesting afternoon/evening when in their company........

You probably didn't sanction him nearly often enough like all the other officials who seem intimidated by this loathsome twosome. If you had, you'd probably have got his name right.
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