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Re: S Atwell - Man Utd V Nottm Forest
« Reply #15 on: Tue 29 Aug 2023 13:51 »
I don't fully understand the reasoning behind these formal complaints. The PGMOL have, under Howard Webb, shown themselves very willing to publicly apologise when a referee makes a significant error. They have not seen fit to do so in this case, correctly in my view, so surely it would be better for Nottingham Forest to discuss with the PGMOL privately any concerns they have. What is the expectation of this complaint? An apology? Atwell to be punished? It isn't clear to me what purpose this serves other than to set up a somewhat adversarial relationship, publicly, between the clubs and the PGMOL.

To be clear, of course clubs should have the right to complain. I just feel this method is rather vague and meaningless and possibly not conducive with a positive outcome for all involved. Transparency is good, but this seems only a semi transparent process with all we know being that a club is unhappy with a refereeing performance, formally.

If there is something in the process I am missing I would be delighted if any better informed posters (most on here are!) could inform me?
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Re: S Atwell - Man Utd V Nottm Forest
« Reply #16 on: Tue 29 Aug 2023 14:19 »
I don't fully understand the reasoning behind these formal complaints. The PGMOL have, under Howard Webb, shown themselves very willing to publicly apologise when a referee makes a significant error. They have not seen fit to do so in this case, correctly in my view, so surely it would be better for Nottingham Forest to discuss with the PGMOL privately any concerns they have. What is the expectation of this complaint? An apology? Atwell to be punished? It isn't clear to me what purpose this serves other than to set up a somewhat adversarial relationship, publicly, between the clubs and the PGMOL.

To be clear, of course clubs should have the right to complain. I just feel this method is rather vague and meaningless and possibly not conducive with a positive outcome for all involved. Transparency is good, but this seems only a semi transparent process with all we know being that a club is unhappy with a refereeing performance, formally.

If there is something in the process I am missing I would be delighted if any better informed posters (most on here are!) could inform me?
The cynics amongst us might suggest that by publicly announcing that they are making an official complaint, when the next "controversial" decision doesn't go in their favour, they might claim that they are victims of a witch hunt because they dared to make a complaint previously. I, on the other hand, couldn't possibly comment.
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Re: S Atwell - Man Utd V Nottm Forest
« Reply #17 on: Tue 29 Aug 2023 18:40 »
I don't fully understand the reasoning behind these formal complaints. The PGMOL have, under Howard Webb, shown themselves very willing to publicly apologise when a referee makes a significant error. They have not seen fit to do so in this case, correctly in my view, so surely it would be better for Nottingham Forest to discuss with the PGMOL privately any concerns they have. What is the expectation of this complaint? An apology? Atwell to be punished? It isn't clear to me what purpose this serves other than to set up a somewhat adversarial relationship, publicly, between the clubs and the PGMOL.

To be clear, of course clubs should have the right to complain. I just feel this method is rather vague and meaningless and possibly not conducive with a positive outcome for all involved. Transparency is good, but this seems only a semi transparent process with all we know being that a club is unhappy with a refereeing performance, formally.

If there is something in the process I am missing I would be delighted if any better informed posters (most on here are!) could inform me?

They know full well it won't do any good, but its a marker for a future game.  Players do it all the time in games - they are seeking to put doubt in the mind of the referee so the next 50/50 decision goes their way.
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Re: S Atwell - Man Utd V Nottm Forest
« Reply #18 on: Tue 29 Aug 2023 20:17 »
This is NOT the forum for partisan fan arguing thank you,  please stick to discussing the referees decisions in a constructive manner or else moderated posts will have to follow so we can check before they go live . You have been warned thanks.

We certainly don’t want bmb to get her whip out to dish out some punishment do we! 😂😂😂

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