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Re: Promotion 2020
« Reply #135 on: Fri 21 Aug 2020 02:46 »
I thought I read somewhere (although I have not been able to recall the source at the moment) that SG1 and SG2 received very similar retainer salaries. What makes SG1 referees earn much more was that the fees per game were almost twice as much in the Premier League compared to the Championship.

If that is the case - anyone know for certain? - then there would not be any financial reason for not being able to combine the lists (as you would just have more flexibility in allocating the same match fees). Of course there could still may be a contractual or HR obstacles.

Those at the very top would still earn much more. Someone like edy would know this, but I think our FIFA elite refs earn something in the region of €5,000 per match in the UEFA competitions.










When the SG2 was officially announced the basic salaries were 50% of the SG1. Have no idea if that is still the case. Match fees vary as well per league and role.

FIFA matches vary by competition and round, it's not a set fee per match but rather a sliding scale.
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Re: Promotion 2020
« Reply #136 on: Fri 21 Aug 2020 11:26 »
I thought I read somewhere (although I have not been able to recall the source at the moment) that SG1 and SG2 received very similar retainer salaries. What makes SG1 referees earn much more was that the fees per game were almost twice as much in the Premier League compared to the Championship.

If that is the case - anyone know for certain? - then there would not be any financial reason for not being able to combine the lists (as you would just have more flexibility in allocating the same match fees). Of course there could still may be a contractual or HR obstacles.

Those at the very top would still earn much more. Someone like edy would know this, but I think our FIFA elite refs earn something in the region of €5,000 per match in the UEFA competitions.










When the SG2 was officially announced the basic salaries were 50% of the SG1. Have no idea if that is still the case. Match fees vary as well per league and role.

FIFA matches vary by competition and round, it's not a set fee per match but rather a sliding scale.

SG1 and SG2 officials are also remunerated via bonuses at the end of each season as well.

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Re: Promotion 2020
« Reply #137 on: Fri 21 Aug 2020 12:17 »
I am a few days late with this but I am delighted to see James Bell promoted to the National List.  I met him at a North West Counties game at New Mills that he was officiating what seems a very short time ago when my son was on the line.  Had James not been promoted from L3 that season he would have had to choose whether to specialise as a referee or an assistant.  This could have been his final middle since he was already an FL assistant.  As a result his parents were there too so it was quite a family affair.  Of course promotion came his way and just weeks later and he bowed out on the line in the League Two Play Off Final at Wembley.  I chatted at length to him after the game and found him to be a really nice chap.  My wife concurred, although given the choice she made in marriage that might not be a great recommendation!
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« Reply #138 on: Fri 21 Aug 2020 14:35 »
I am sure that Mrs Ref Watcher is more than happy with her choice!

Having seen Mr Bell do an excellent job in a play-off game a couple of weeks later (2017), I too am delighted to see him promoted.

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« Reply #139 on: Fri 21 Aug 2020 14:57 »
Three refs have been promoted to SG2 but only two have been promoted to SG1. Does this mean that someone is coming off the SG2 list? The unconfirmed suggestion has been made that James Adcock will be stepping down through injury (a pity imo), which suggests that the three 'oldies' Duncan, Stroud and Woolmer may be carrying on. I await the definitive list with interest.

James Adcock has every intention on making a return.

Adcock passed his fitness test earlier today.
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Re: Promotion 2020
« Reply #140 on: Fri 21 Aug 2020 16:26 »
UEFA competitions also vary by level of referee. Champions league game refereed by Elite referee is paid higher than a first group referee, with the assistants fees reflecting that also

Pleased for James Adcock, lets hope he can stay fit
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Re: Promotion 2020
« Reply #141 on: Fri 21 Aug 2020 16:55 »
There's four EFL Cup games next weekend so guess we should get first batch of appointments early next week. We might get an idea of some officials who are carrying on - or we might not!


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Re: Promotion 2020
« Reply #142 on: Fri 21 Aug 2020 18:40 »
There's four EFL Cup games next weekend so guess we should get first batch of appointments early next week. We might get an idea of some officials who are carrying on - or we might not!

I'm surprised it's only 4 games been rescheduled - I would perhaps expect more to follow suit when international squads are announced!

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Re: Promotion 2020
« Reply #143 on: Fri 21 Aug 2020 19:22 »
There's four EFL Cup games next weekend so guess we should get first batch of appointments early next week. We might get an idea of some officials who are carrying on - or we might not!

I'm surprised it's only 4 games been rescheduled - I would perhaps expect more to follow suit when international squads are announced!


I would think most clubs will treat it largely as a pre-season friendly and if some players are missing due to international call-ups so be it.

I remember the 1st round of the League Cup sometimes used to clash with the international friendly midweek that used to be in August and there was no option of rescheduling your games then.

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Re: Promotion 2020
« Reply #144 on: Fri 21 Aug 2020 19:33 »
I'm hoping my club play the youth team and get out of it as quick as possible! With such a congested schedule this year, our only hope of promotion is to keep the squad as fresh as possible so the less games the better!

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Re: Promotion 2020
« Reply #145 on: Sat 22 Aug 2020 10:10 »

Those at the very top would still earn much more. Someone like edy would know this, but I think our FIFA elite refs earn something in the region of €5,000 per match in the UEFA competitions.

All the Elite referees gain 4.500 per match. Plus 200 euro for each day. From the QF stage they gain 5.500 euro.

First group officials gain around 2.000-2.500. 2nd group 1.300 euro and 3rd group 1.200 euro.
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Re: Promotion 2020
« Reply #146 on: Sat 22 Aug 2020 19:23 »
Promotions in Wales under the FAW for 2020/21 Season:

FIFA Promotions
Cheryl Foster - FIFA Category 1 Referee > FIFA Elite Referee

Category 1A Referees - Cymru Premier Referees
Kevin Parry retires after 27 seasons in the top flight in Wales to observe.

Category 1B Referees - Cymru Premier Talent List Officials
  • Aaron Wyn Jones 
  • Alex Livesey
  • Alex McInch
  • Ben Williams
  • Ryan Kenny

Category 1AR Referees - Cymru Premier Elite Assistant Referees
Phil Roszkowski retires from the Elite AR List

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Re: Promotion 2020
« Reply #147 on: Sat 22 Aug 2020 20:27 »
Cheryl Foster is a fantastic referee. Have watched her a few times & she has been consistently excellent. Really happy for her.
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Re: Promotion 2020
« Reply #148 on: Sat 22 Aug 2020 22:26 »
Cheryl Foster is a fantastic referee. Have watched her a few times & she has been consistently excellent. Really happy for her.

After the Super Cup last August, do we think we will see any female officials refereeing UEFA men's football on a regular basis any time soon or will they concentrate on the women's club matches?


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Re: Promotion 2020
« Reply #149 on: Sat 22 Aug 2020 22:47 »
Cheryl Foster is a fantastic referee. Have watched her a few times & she has been consistently excellent. Really happy for her.

After the Super Cup last August, do we think we will see any female officials refereeing UEFA men's football on a regular basis any time soon or will they concentrate on the women's club matches?

I would certainly expect Cheryl to be given a Men’s fixture at some point. I would also think she’ll be off to a major women’s tournament soon.
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