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Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« on: Sun 08 Jan 2023 09:18 »
I think Ms Welch will be disappointed to have missed, in real time, one of the more obvious and violent swinging elbows on to the head of an opponent particular as the offending player went on to score and level the match. Perhaps it was slightly out of her line of vision if she was following the ball ( I  would need to see it again to come to a proper view on that ) but nevertheless it appears unfortunate.

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Re: Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« Reply #1 on: Sun 08 Jan 2023 10:46 »
Having seen this on TV, I think Ms. Welch had little chance of seeing the incident. Had she done so, I'm sure she would have taken the appropriate action. Hopefully, the FA will take retrospective action.

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Re: Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« Reply #2 on: Sun 08 Jan 2023 12:06 »
The view behind the goal shows she was not looking at the incident at all as the ball went out wide right.
The FA will have to step in
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Re: Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« Reply #3 on: Sun 08 Jan 2023 13:04 »
As I recall the incident, the players had been tangling together for a few seconds. Always wise to keep glancing back at them, especially if they are still in close proximity, to see if their are any 'afters'.  As we have always known, to be a good referee you need eyes in the back of your head !  Presumably her ARs and 4th were also looking in different directions to the incident. Unfortunate.
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Re: Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« Reply #4 on: Sun 08 Jan 2023 16:29 »
Although I did not see the match  - it seems the only incident is the one mentioned here - anything good to say about her overall performance - there must be some good things to say/report - it seems a little unfair just to emphasise one incident  - most other reports  usually mention something positive about a performance
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Re: Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« Reply #5 on: Sun 08 Jan 2023 17:04 »
I only saw the highlights on MOTD. This seemed to be the most notable incident, for the rest Ms Welch seemed to have perfectly good control of the match though highlights do little except focus on the major moments, so it's hard to get an overall impression.
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Re: Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« Reply #6 on: Sun 08 Jan 2023 20:13 »
I was at the game and she put in a very good performance. She moves very well around the pitch and any decision she gives is made positively - I like her style in engaging with the players. Couldn’t see the incident referred to above from my position so have only seen it on the highlights. Any comments about the referee I heard from both sets of supporters on the way back to the car were how she just lets the game flow and referees with a smile on her face.
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Re: Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« Reply #7 on: Sun 08 Jan 2023 21:27 »
Just seen video footage of the elbowing incident. As one correspondent pointed out, Ms. Welch was following the play with the ball being crossed in from the wing and the cheap shot was enacted behind her back. Cowardly from the player concerned and that should result in retrospective action taken, a la rugby union.

Without technology in use, the player concerned scored the equalising goal. C’est la vie I’m afraid. The referee can hardly be blamed for not taking action for something she didn’t spot, however was it possible either assistant spotted the offence and helped Rebecca Welch out?

All ifs, buts and maybes now, but what a terrific game that epitomises the magic of this famous old competition.
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Re: Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« Reply #8 on: Sun 08 Jan 2023 22:15 »
She had no chance of seeing that.  Also very difficult for the active assistant as he will have been fully focussed on the offside line.  Only real hope is the inactive AR or 4th official spot it.
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Re: Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« Reply #9 on: Mon 09 Jan 2023 15:05 »
She had no chance of seeing that.  Also very difficult for the active assistant as he will have been fully focussed on the offside line.  Only real hope is the inactive AR or 4th official spot it.

If that's the case and with no VAR,  should the FA step in and issue a charge against the offender? Or are we then straying into the realms of re-refereeing the game?

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Re: Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« Reply #10 on: Mon 09 Jan 2023 16:04 »
She had no chance of seeing that.  Also very difficult for the active assistant as he will have been fully focussed on the offside line.  Only real hope is the inactive AR or 4th official spot it.

If that's the case and with no VAR,  should the FA step in and issue a charge against the offender? Or are we then straying into the realms of re-refereeing the game?

Yes, I think they should step in and no, in my opinion, it's not re-refereeing the game. My understanding is, in cases where the Match Referee hasn't seen a serious incident, the FA can (and has done so many times in the past) take retrospective action. However, if the Referee were to say he/she saw the incident, then the FA cannot intervene as they deem that the Referee dealt with the matter on the day.

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Re: Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« Reply #11 on: Tue 10 Jan 2023 22:50 »
The FA posted an hour ago on there Twitter feed that Thomas-Asante has a 3 match ban for violent conduct, match officials missed it but caught on camera

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Re: Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« Reply #12 on: Wed 11 Jan 2023 03:37 »
The FA posted an hour ago on there Twitter feed that Thomas-Asante has a 3 match ban for violent conduct, match officials missed it but caught on camera

If match officials miss an incident like this is there likely to be any repercussions for the officials concerned?

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Re: Chesterfield v WBA Rebecca Welch
« Reply #13 on: Wed 11 Jan 2023 06:58 »
Only if observer believed they missed it due to poor positioning or lack of identification.
Given where the ball was RW and active assistant had no chance. Pictures give no indication where other AR and 4th are, so cannot comment.
They will be upset to have missed it but should not adversely affect marks too much.