Author Topic: P TIERNEY - Liverpool v Man City (Read 1528 times)

TheThingFromLewes · « **on:** Sun 03 Oct 2021 18:54 »

Oh dear oh dear, after the praise for Tierney last week in the NL derby things have crashed and burned this afternoon.

How Milner survived is beyond belief and a crazy decision not to issue the second yellow.

The foul on Foden should probably have been awarded, but it wasn’t a penalty so VAR couldn’t intervene.

No surprise Guardiola was carded for protesting, and I loved Mike Dean’s face when Guardiola exploded.

ajb95 · « **Reply #1 on:** Sun 03 Oct 2021 19:05 »

Not a penalty for me, Foden went down far too easily, however Milner should have been sent off. I think he actually gave the free kick against Henderson so he must have just missed it - mistakes do happen.

The behaviour of Guardiola on the touchline is disgraceful - its time referees take stronger action and get him binned to the stands. Gestiuclating widly when something goes against him. I've seen managers at lower levels sent off for much less. He needs to grow up!

dave26 · « **Reply #2 on:** Sun 03 Oct 2021 19:22 »

Yes Milner should definitely seen a second yellow followed by red for the cynical trio on Bernardo , I thought other than that mistake he kept a low profile , and I too certainly enjoyed Mike Deans facial expression when Guardiola lost his head

Affy_Moose · « **Reply #3 on:** Sun 03 Oct 2021 20:24 »

Quote from: ajb95 on Sun 03 Oct 2021 19:05

Not a penalty for me, Foden went down far too easily, however Milner should have been sent off. I think he actually gave the free kick against Henderson so he must have just missed it - mistakes do happen.

The behaviour of Guardiola on the touchline is disgraceful - its time referees take stronger action and get him binned to the stands. Gestiuclating widly when something goes against him. I've seen managers at lower levels sent off for much less. He needs to grow up!

Agreed completely on the Guardiola point.

Not a foul for me on Foden either. As you say, in any case it wouldn’t have been a penalty so a non-issue.

The Milner tackle ticked the caution box for reckless/SPA/unsporting conduct for being a cynically deliberate foul. Perhaps, he gave the first foul by Henderson but given the obvious nature, the proximity and time gap, that would be unsatisfactory.

I’m as appreciative as anyone that games like these, officiated by top FIFA officials, are not managed just like ‘any other game’, but even with that lens, I can’t see a reason not to caution.

Hendo · « **Reply #4 on:** Sun 03 Oct 2021 21:25 »

Quote from: Charlieboy on Sun 03 Oct 2021 20:04

Guardiola’s behaviour was a disgrace , in the efl he would be in the stands without a shred of doubt( apart from if it were sarginson as he wouldn’t have seen it!) what concerns me is the laws of the game are the same at all levels(supposed to be) but this man week in week out gets away with it and escapes criticism even on these boards , if it had been warnock or evans there would be howls calling for their heads , double standards .

Thanks for your thoughts on Guardiola.
Now please can we have your unbiased opinions on RTR - Rate the Ref - as to Tierney’s failure to apply the laws of the game?

Ref Fan · « **Reply #5 on:** Sun 03 Oct 2021 23:24 »

I doubt it's the first time Milner's somehow avoided getting a deserved second YC. If Tierney was penalising Henderson, I'm sure he'd not blown his whistle before the Milner foul as it was almost immediate. Well though Tierney has performed in some recent top games, I'm afraid that was a really poor decision.

On the Foden incident, I actually thought he was fouled but just outside the box. Not a penalty, but a free kick in that position might have been interesting.

I take Hendo's point. It's all very well focusing just on Guardiola's antics, and I don't condone them, but any Manager in a game of that importance would be a little upset I suspect at a Referee failing to administer a second YC for that opponent's challenge. At least Mike Dean's facial expressions brought some light relief!

ajb95 · « **Reply #6 on:** Sun 03 Oct 2021 23:37 »

Quote from: Ref Fan on Sun 03 Oct 2021 23:24

I doubt it's the first time Milner's somehow avoided getting a deserved second YC. If Tierney was penalising Henderson, I'm sure he'd not blown his whistle before the Milner foul as it was almost immediate. Well though Tierney has performed in some recent top games, I'm afraid that was a really poor decision.

On the Foden incident, I actually thought he was fouled but just outside the box. Not a penalty, but a free kick in that position might have been interesting.

I take Hendo's point. It's all very well focusing just on Guardiola's antics, and I don't condone them, but any Manager in a game of that importance would be a little upset I suspect at a Referee failing to administer a second YC for that opponent's challenge. At least Mike Dean's facial expressions brought some light relief!

I haven’t seen any other manager react that way over 1 decision- right or wrong you respect the decision of the referee. Guardiola has previous. IMO Tierney didn’t uphold the LOTG by letting clear aggressive behaviour continue; he should have been sent to the stands!

bmb · « **Reply #7 on:** Mon 04 Oct 2021 00:40 »

Milner should have had a 2nd yellow, that's a poor decision by Tierney. I'm sure he will be disappointed with himself, he should be getting those calls right.

Guardiola's behaviour was dreadful - yes he's a right to be upset with the decision but he certainly has no right to behave like a toddler who has had too many sweeties and missed their nap. Grow up man, you are meant to be professional, act like one.

bruntyboy · « **Reply #8 on:** Mon 04 Oct 2021 01:07 »

Why aren't nudges/pushes in the back in and around the penalty being penalised by a free kick? None of them are shoulder barges and none of them are attempts by the defender to try to play the ball. if these were challenges on the half way line they'd have no trouble awarding them.

flipmode · « **Reply #9 on:** Mon 04 Oct 2021 03:40 »

Quote from: Charlieboy on Sun 03 Oct 2021 20:04

Guardiola’s behaviour was a disgrace , in the efl he would be in the stands without a shred of doubt( apart from if it were sarginson as he wouldn’t have seen it!) what concerns me is the laws of the game are the same at all levels(supposed to be) but this man week in week out gets away with it and escapes criticism even on these boards , if it had been warnock or evans there would be howls calling for their heads , double standards .

That's a bit harsh, considering the poor officiating that led to the reaction. Had Tierney applied the LOTG correctly, then the reaction wouldn't have materialised at all.

I also disagree with the notion that Foden went down too easily. The pace at which he was moving, and the fact the contact from Milner (albeit outisde of the area, imo) caused his leg to hit his other leg, I'm not sure what is expected of Foden in that scenario? How can he possibly stay upright?

A poor display from Tierney, ruined by a couple of critical incidents he got wrong.

Leggy · « **Reply #10 on:** Mon 04 Oct 2021 06:57 »

This is a classic example of a referee getting into bother by trying to "manage the game" as opposed to apply the Laws of the Game.

Milner's foul challenge (whether the whistle had gone or not) was a caution every day of every week in every league in every country.

The referee, realising that is was a second yellow card and not wanting to "be the story" on a big game has tried to manage his way out of it and declined to issue a second caution. Pep then goes crazy (BMB's description of his behaviour is spot on); but the referee cannot sanction him because he knows that his protestations (wrong that they are) are 100% justified.

The solution is pretty straightforward - issue the caution. Two wrongs don't make a right, so don't go wrong in the first place.

GingerReferee · « **Reply #11 on:** Mon 04 Oct 2021 09:52 »

Just watched the highlights and I think Paul had an up and down game just from the highlights

Not enough for a pen for me
But how Milner hasn't been shown a second yellow is beyond me
And guardiolas response is justified but stupid

Claretman · « **Reply #12 on:** Mon 04 Oct 2021 10:10 »

Tierney in my opinion had a half decent game except for two major incidents.
For me first offence trip by milner outside the box free kick to city, yellow or red? Dont think he attempted to play the ball In which case is it dogso or was foden going too wide.
Having stayed on milner should have received a second yellow for the challenges on foden, in fact he could have had 2 reds or 3 yellows.
Gardiola’s antics are stupid and should be punished but it the referee applies the laws of game correctly then he
Has no reason to act as he did

lincs22 · « **Reply #13 on:** Mon 04 Oct 2021 12:24 »

On a separate thread, we have comments about the shortage of referees and the action of coaches/players are partially causing this.

So, if they see Managers like Pep doing that on a Sunday (with no consequences), they think it is right to do it to a new 15 year old kid. Standards of behaviour towards referees will only improve when the SG1 referees start protecting the game...

TheThingFromLewes · « **Reply #14 on:** Mon 04 Oct 2021 12:30 »

Quote from: lincs22 on Mon 04 Oct 2021 12:24

On a separate thread, we have comments about the shortage of referees and the action of coaches/players are partially causing this.

So, if they see Managers like Pep doing that on a Sunday (with no consequences), they think it is right to do it to a new 15 year old kid. Standards of behaviour towards referees will only improve when the SG1 referees start protecting the game...

….and the FA having the balls to sanction HARD on any behaviour of this kind.

Unfortunately they are too weak to do anything.

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