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Author Topic: Oxford Utd v Ipswich Town - Bobby Madden  (Read 1549 times)

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Oxford Utd v Ipswich Town - Bobby Madden
« on: Sat 21 Jan 2023 23:28 »
This match was played in thick fog which worsened in the second half.

Reports suggest that both managers were happy to abandon the game and play again at a later but, when discussing this with Mr Madden, it is said that he told the managers that as 75 minutes were played the result would stand 1-1 as it was at the time.

I can't see this rule/law anywhere, could someone with greater knowledge confirm or deny please?

Oxford Utd won 2-1

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Re: Oxford Utd v Ipswich Town - Bobby Madden
« Reply #1 on: Sun 22 Jan 2023 00:59 »
Efl rule 34.2 .
Doesn’t stipulate 75 minutes though , just states that the result of an abandoned match can at the efl discretion be allowed to stand .
My views are my own and not that of rate the ref .
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Re: Oxford Utd v Ipswich Town - Bobby Madden
« Reply #2 on: Sun 22 Jan 2023 08:35 »
Might that have been the rule of the Scottish Fa and he thought it was the same here?

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Re: Oxford Utd v Ipswich Town - Bobby Madden
« Reply #3 on: Sun 22 Jan 2023 10:22 »
Never heard of the 75 minute rule up here or anywhere for that matter. I suppose Bobby must have got it from somewhere buy only he can enlighten us where, assuming the report is correct. 
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Re: Oxford Utd v Ipswich Town - Bobby Madden
« Reply #4 on: Sun 22 Jan 2023 11:07 »
Or it could be that the reports are not 100% accurate?  It has been known for managers to occasionally be economical with the actualite when it suits them.
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Re: Oxford Utd v Ipswich Town - Bobby Madden
« Reply #5 on: Sun 22 Jan 2023 13:09 »
It used to be 70 minutes in SCoR for grass roots level, that got taken out a few years ago though.  Don't think there has ever been a time defined at senior levels.

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Re: Oxford Utd v Ipswich Town - Bobby Madden
« Reply #6 on: Mon 23 Jan 2023 21:32 »
Or it could be that the reports are not 100% accurate?  It has been known for managers to occasionally be economical with the actualite when it suits them.

Why would both managers, winning and losing, make up the story?  It seems clear that Bobby Madden simply got it wrong. He also got it wrong by continuing with the game when most of the paying customers could see little of what was going on.

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Re: Oxford Utd v Ipswich Town - Bobby Madden
« Reply #7 on: Tue 24 Jan 2023 08:57 »
This sounds like something that might need to be looked into further. If incorrect information played a part in the managers wishing to carry on then that would be of concern, and indeed it doesn't seem like the sort of thing that a referee should really take into account in any case - either it's appropriate to continue playing the match or it's not.
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Re: Oxford Utd v Ipswich Town - Bobby Madden
« Reply #8 on: Tue 24 Jan 2023 17:32 »
Just do your job and let others worry about what happens next.
If its too foggy, come off
As Nemesis says they should take into account the paying public too

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Re: Oxford Utd v Ipswich Town - Bobby Madden
« Reply #9 on: Wed 01 Feb 2023 16:02 »
Apparently the referees’ body, the PGMOL, has now investigated the matter and found that Madden did nothing wrong and that neither he nor any member of his team of officials made the 75-minute claim to the managers.

So either both managers are lying or the referee is lying. Well I know who I believe, although a heavy Scottish accent can be difficult at times.

The referees investigating themselves reminds me of what's happening in Government these days, as has the outcome.

I suppose if they had admitted it, they'd have a problem.
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Apparently the referees’ body, the PGMOL, has now investigated the matter and found that Madden did nothing wrong and that neither he nor any member of his team of officials made the 75-minute claim to the managers.

So either both managers are lying or the referee is lying. Well I know who I believe, although a heavy Scottish accent can be difficult at times.

The referees investigating themselves reminds me of what's happening in Government these days, as has the outcome.

I suppose if they had admitted it, they'd have a problem.

For my fellow Blackadder fans "Deny everything, Baldrick." "Did you Referee Oxford United v. Ipswich?" "No!!!"
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Apparently the referees’ body, the PGMOL, has now investigated the matter and found that Madden did nothing wrong and that neither he nor any member of his team of officials made the 75-minute claim to the managers.

So either both managers are lying or the referee is lying. Well I know who I believe, although a heavy Scottish accent can be difficult at times.

The referees investigating themselves reminds me of what's happening in Government these days, as has the outcome.

I suppose if they had admitted it, they'd have a problem.

I don't have enough fingers to count the number of times that managers after games have claimed that I said something that I simply didn't.  They either made it up completely, or took something that I had said completely out of context.
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Apparently the referees’ body, the PGMOL, has now investigated the matter and found that Madden did nothing wrong and that neither he nor any member of his team of officials made the 75-minute claim to the managers.

So either both managers are lying or the referee is lying. Well I know who I believe, although a heavy Scottish accent can be difficult at times.

The referees investigating themselves reminds me of what's happening in Government these days, as has the outcome.

I suppose if they had admitted it, they'd have a problem.

I don't have enough fingers to count the number of times that managers after games have claimed that I said something that I simply didn't.  They either made it up completely, or took something that I had said completely out of context.

Really. The managers, a happy winner and a disappointed loser, both made up the same detailed story in separate interviews about something you didn't mention at all?

Good try, but it looks like a cover up to me.

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Apparently the referees’ body, the PGMOL, has now investigated the matter and found that Madden did nothing wrong and that neither he nor any member of his team of officials made the 75-minute claim to the managers.

So either both managers are lying or the referee is lying. Well I know who I believe, although a heavy Scottish accent can be difficult at times.

The referees investigating themselves reminds me of what's happening in Government these days, as has the outcome.

I suppose if they had admitted it, they'd have a problem.

I don't have enough fingers to count the number of times that managers after games have claimed that I said something that I simply didn't.  They either made it up completely, or took something that I had said completely out of context.

Really. The managers, a happy winner and a disappointed loser, both made up the same detailed story in separate interviews about something you didn't mention at all?

Good try, but it looks like a cover up to me.

Managers collude to discredit the referee.  Trust me, it happens.
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Apparently the referees’ body, the PGMOL, has now investigated the matter and found that Madden did nothing wrong and that neither he nor any member of his team of officials made the 75-minute claim to the managers.

So either both managers are lying or the referee is lying. Well I know who I believe, although a heavy Scottish accent can be difficult at times.

The referees investigating themselves reminds me of what's happening in Government these days, as has the outcome.

I suppose if they had admitted it, they'd have a problem.

I don't have enough fingers to count the number of times that managers after games have claimed that I said something that I simply didn't.  They either made it up completely, or took something that I had said completely out of context.

Really. The managers, a happy winner and a disappointed loser, both made up the same detailed story in separate interviews about something you didn't mention at all?

Good try, but it looks like a cover up to me.

Managers collude to discredit the referee.  Trust me, it happens.

Maybe they do, but not in a situation like this. One manager has every reason to be grateful for this referee's slip up. Your suggestions, I'm afraid lack credibility.

Referees say things which aren't true. Trust me, it happens.