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On Barren Ground
« on: Tue 26 Apr 2022 08:46 »
A recent thread on cup final appointments bemoans the fact that Kent haven't had a Cup Final Referee for some time..

Acknowledging that my Upton's research only ever covered two counties, and for the Men's final alone, I wonder if there are more barren runs than these?

Derbyshire
Arthur Kingscott  1900 1901
John Ibbotsen 1910
Harry Kingscott 1931.......

Nottinghamshire
Arthur Adams 1913
Noel Watson 1925
Reg Leafe 1955......

So if Mr Coote gets into the middle this year (former Newark) that'll be quite something!
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Re: On Barren Ground
« Reply #1 on: Tue 26 Apr 2022 08:57 »
Hasn’t Steve Bennett not had an FA cup final?
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Re: On Barren Ground
« Reply #2 on: Tue 26 Apr 2022 10:01 »
Quote from: TheThingFromLewes on Tue 26 Apr 2022 08:57
Hasn’t Steve Bennett not had an FA cup final?

Yes the Orpington man  refereed the 2017 fa cup final and was an assistant(linesman) in 1995
When mr Ashby from worcestershire refereed the final.
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Re: On Barren Ground
« Reply #3 on: Tue 26 Apr 2022 10:20 »
It’s been a long time for Cambs FA….
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Re: On Barren Ground
« Reply #4 on: Tue 26 Apr 2022 10:20 »
Quote from: mutn3 on Tue 26 Apr 2022 08:46
A recent thread on cup final appointments bemoans the fact that Kent haven't had a Cup Final Referee for some time..

Acknowledging that my Upton's research only ever covered two counties, and for the Men's final alone, I wonder if there are more barren runs than these?

Derbyshire
Arthur Kingscott  1900 1901
John Ibbotsen 1910
Harry Kingscott 1931.......

Nottinghamshire
Arthur Adams 1913
Noel Watson 1925
Reg Leafe 1955......

So if Mr Coote gets into the middle this year (former Newark) that'll be quite something!

I didn’t realise Coote resides in Kent now.

Bad news for Fulham, we will be seeing him regularly then next season.

When Bennett was on the list he frequented CC at very regular intervals.
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Re: On Barren Ground
« Reply #5 on: Tue 26 Apr 2022 11:48 »
Quote from: Claretman on Tue 26 Apr 2022 10:01
Quote from: TheThingFromLewes on Tue 26 Apr 2022 08:57
Hasn’t Steve Bennett not had an FA cup final?

Yes the Orpington man  refereed the 2017 fa cup final and was an assistant(linesman) in 1995
When mr Ashby from worcestershire refereed the final.

I assume you mean 2007 as he retired in 2010!
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Re: On Barren Ground
« Reply #6 on: Tue 26 Apr 2022 18:39 »
Quote from: mutn3 on Tue 26 Apr 2022 08:46
A recent thread on cup final appointments bemoans the fact that Kent haven't had a Cup Final Referee for some time..

Acknowledging that my Upton's research only ever covered two counties, and for the Men's final alone, I wonder if there are more barren runs than these?

Derbyshire
Arthur Kingscott  1900 1901
John Ibbotsen 1910
Harry Kingscott 1931.......

Nottinghamshire
Arthur Adams 1913
Noel Watson 1925
Reg Leafe 1955......

So if Mr Coote gets into the middle this year (former Newark) that'll be quite something!

Has my original home county of Suffolk ever produced a FA Cup Final Referee? I can't think of one. Russell Driver got a Reserve appointment in the early 1970s I seem to recall but I can't think of a referee.  Norfolk of course have had two, Norman Burtenshaw and Alf Grey.
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Re: On Barren Ground
« Reply #7 on: Tue 26 Apr 2022 19:05 »
Quote from: bmb on Tue 26 Apr 2022 11:48
Quote from: Claretman on Tue 26 Apr 2022 10:01
Quote from: TheThingFromLewes on Tue 26 Apr 2022 08:57
Hasn’t Steve Bennett not had an FA cup final?

Yes the Orpington man  refereed the 2017 fa cup final and was an assistant(linesman) in 1995
When mr Ashby from worcestershire refereed the final.

I assume you mean 2007 as he retired in 2010!
Apologies bmb for my typo, you are correct indeed, sounds like i must be due a visit to your office i promise i wont wear yellow.
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Re: On Barren Ground
« Reply #8 on: Tue 26 Apr 2022 20:38 »
Not got my Upton's to hand but Surrey......?

(Gavin Ward or Charles Breakspear to break that duck soon?)
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Re: On Barren Ground
« Reply #9 on: Tue 26 Apr 2022 20:48 »
Ray Lewis for Surrey?
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Re: On Barren Ground
« Reply #10 on: Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:42 »
Quote from: RCG on Tue 26 Apr 2022 20:48
Ray Lewis for Surrey?
Sorry, I thought we were talking about FA Cup Final appointments. Ray Lewis did not receive this honour despite deserving it (imo) but, like others such as John Martin, Alan Wilkie and Lester Shapter, did receive a League Cup Final appointment.
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Re: On Barren Ground
« Reply #11 on: Tue 26 Apr 2022 22:16 »
Quote from: Acme Thunderer on Tue 26 Apr 2022 21:42
Quote from: RCG on Tue 26 Apr 2022 20:48
Ray Lewis for Surrey?
Sorry, I thought we were talking about FA Cup Final appointments. Ray Lewis did not receive this honour despite deserving it (imo) but, like others such as John Martin, Alan Wilkie and Lester Shapter, did receive a League Cup Final appointment.
We could add Martin Bodenham to that fine list too
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Re: On Barren Ground
« Reply #12 on: Tue 26 Apr 2022 23:25 »
Quote from: Acme Thunderer on Tue 26 Apr 2022 20:38
Not got my Upton's to hand but Surrey......?

(Gavin Ward or Charles Breakspear to break that duck soon?)


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