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Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 09:52 »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56150465

Should be a drop-ball restart to the defending goal-keeper, but I don't know how the game was actually re-started. Bet the other team would be happy about that!  ;D

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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #1 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 10:02 »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56150465

Should be a drop-ball restart to the defending goal-keeper, but I don't know how the game was actually re-started. Bet the other team would be happy about that!  ;D

Referee incredibly unlucky, victim of being so much up with play
Very interested to see what happened next

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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #2 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 10:06 »
Don't think I agree that ref was unlucky - don't think he should be positioning himself so deep.

I was always taught never to go in the six yard box when the ball is in play unless someone was being murdered!
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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #3 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 10:06 »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56150465

Should be a drop-ball restart to the defending goal-keeper, but I don't know how the game was actually re-started. Bet the other team would be happy about that!  ;D

Before the "new" rules it would have been a goal-kick, so not much difference.

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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #4 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 10:52 »
Not particularly germane to this incident but I reckon Mexican referees must be allotted a good measure of hair oil to complete their appearance. This chap puts me in mind of a Mexican referee who officiated at at least a couple of World Cup Finals and whom, on this site, we playfully nicknamed Count Dracula. Anyone remember his name ?
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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #5 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 11:02 »
Not particularly germane to this incident but I reckon Mexican referees must be allotted a good measure of hair oil to complete their appearance. This chap puts me in mind of a Mexican referee who officiated at at least a couple of World Cup Finals and whom, on this site, we playfully nicknamed Count Dracula. Anyone remember his name ?
Marco Rodriguez?

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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #6 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 11:25 »
Don't think I agree that ref was unlucky - don't think he should be positioning himself so deep.

I was always taught never to go in the six yard box when the ball is in play unless someone was being murdered!

I agree. I think top flight refs are taught to veer off towards the corner of the penalty area to avoid this particular situation arising. I recall 'Speedy Gonzales' aka Andy Woolmer heading into the thick of things in the penalty area at Gresty Road on one occasion and practically having his head taken off by a goal-bound shot. I don't think he did that again! 

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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #7 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 11:50 »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56150465

Should be a drop-ball restart to the defending goal-keeper, but I don't know how the game was actually re-started. Bet the other team would be happy about that!  ;D

Unless laws have changed again, shouldn't restart be a goal kick? The ball has hit the referee and I think then gone directly out of play. Doesn't drop ball only apply if ball remains in play?


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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #8 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 11:55 »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56150465

Should be a drop-ball restart to the defending goal-keeper, but I don't know how the game was actually re-started. Bet the other team would be happy about that!  ;D

Before the "new" rules it would have been a goal-kick, so not much difference.
Law 9.1

The ball is out of play when:

•   it has wholly passed over the goal line or touchline on the ground or in the air
•   play has been stopped by the referee
•   it touches a match official, remains on the field of play and:
      o   a team starts a promising attack or
      o   the ball goes directly into the goal or
      o   the team in possession of the ball changes

In all these cases, play is restarted with a dropped ball.


The ball didn't remain in play.  The correct restart is a goal kick.
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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #9 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 12:22 »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56150465

Should be a drop-ball restart to the defending goal-keeper, but I don't know how the game was actually re-started. Bet the other team would be happy about that!  ;D

Before the "new" rules it would have been a goal-kick, so not much difference.
Law 9.1

The ball is out of play when:

•   it has wholly passed over the goal line or touchline on the ground or in the air
•   play has been stopped by the referee
•   it touches a match official, remains on the field of play and:
      o   a team starts a promising attack or
      o   the ball goes directly into the goal or
      o   the team in possession of the ball changes

In all these cases, play is restarted with a dropped ball.


The ball didn't remain in play.  The correct restart is a goal kick.

If the ball had gone in the net would it have been a contested drop ball or would it have been an uncontested drop ball to the attacking team as they played the ball last?

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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #10 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 12:57 »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56150465

Should be a drop-ball restart to the defending goal-keeper, but I don't know how the game was actually re-started. Bet the other team would be happy about that!  ;D

Before the "new" rules it would have been a goal-kick, so not much difference.
Law 9.1

The ball is out of play when:

•   it has wholly passed over the goal line or touchline on the ground or in the air
•   play has been stopped by the referee
•   it touches a match official, remains on the field of play and:
      o   a team starts a promising attack or
      o   the ball goes directly into the goal or
      o   the team in possession of the ball changes

In all these cases, play is restarted with a dropped ball.


The ball didn't remain in play.  The correct restart is a goal kick.

If the ball had gone in the net would it have been a contested drop ball or would it have been an uncontested drop ball to the attacking team as they played the ball last?
There are no contested dropped balls anymore. As the last touch was in the penalty area, it would have been a dropped ball to the defending team's goalkeeper.
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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #11 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 13:52 »
Not particularly germane to this incident but I reckon Mexican referees must be allotted a good measure of hair oil to complete their appearance. This chap puts me in mind of a Mexican referee who officiated at at least a couple of World Cup Finals and whom, on this site, we playfully nicknamed Count Dracula. Anyone remember his name ?
Marco Rodriguez?



That's the fella.  Thank you.

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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #12 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 13:55 »
Not particularly germane to this incident but I reckon Mexican referees must be allotted a good measure of hair oil to complete their appearance. This chap puts me in mind of a Mexican referee who officiated at at least a couple of World Cup Finals and whom, on this site, we playfully nicknamed Count Dracula. Anyone remember his name ?
Marco Rodriguez?



That's the fella.  Thank you.

Indeed.... the Mexican card shark who makes Breakspear look like Halsey.

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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #13 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 15:10 »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/56150465

Should be a drop-ball restart to the defending goal-keeper, but I don't know how the game was actually re-started. Bet the other team would be happy about that!  ;D

Before the "new" rules it would have been a goal-kick, so not much difference.
Law 9.1

The ball is out of play when:

•   it has wholly passed over the goal line or touchline on the ground or in the air
•   play has been stopped by the referee
•   it touches a match official, remains on the field of play and:
      o   a team starts a promising attack or
      o   the ball goes directly into the goal or
      o   the team in possession of the ball changes

In all these cases, play is restarted with a dropped ball.


The ball didn't remain in play.  The correct restart is a goal kick.

It remained in play as much as it would have if it had gone directly into the goal. How can that second option occur ?

I guess that means if a shot has gone into the goal, having just brushed the referee without changing direction or speed, instead of a goal the keeper is gifted the ball.  Nice one, whoever thought that one up.

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Re: Oh dear - brilliant positioning?
« Reply #14 on: Mon 22 Feb 2021 16:51 »
Not particularly germane to this incident but I reckon Mexican referees must be allotted a good measure of hair oil to complete their appearance. This chap puts me in mind of a Mexican referee who officiated at at least a couple of World Cup Finals and whom, on this site, we playfully nicknamed Count Dracula. Anyone remember his name ?
Marco Rodriguez?



That's the fella.  Thank you.

Marco Antonio Rodríguez Moreno


There was something rather sexy about him despite his Count Dracula appearance! Just saying!!! Yes I do admit to a very questionable taste in men at the best of times!!
Hajrá Lilák. Csak a Kispest. Hajrá Magyarok! Hajrá játékvezetői csapat! Soha ne add fel. Nincs sárga kérem!!! No Chris Kavanagh doesn't live in Ashton or even in the Greater Manchester area!!
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