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Mr Coleman
« on: Sat 26 Jan 2019 21:58 »
"I want to give it all up", "disgraceful", "cost us £250,000"
Lovely rhetoric from such a lovely man, whose day was ruined by one person, his own player
3 minutes in, attacking position, gives the ball away, commits a late tackle, scissor challenge and correctly gets booked
Second half, in midfield, poor control, taken off him, lunges in, catches Nugent late, receives 2nd correct yellow
I trust the alleged lost income comes out of the players wages, as it certainly wasnt Moss' fault
I find Moss' style fussy at best but even I cant argue against today's decisions

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Re: Mr Coleman
« Reply #1 on: Sun 27 Jan 2019 10:32 »
Shame.

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Re: Mr Coleman
« Reply #2 on: Sun 27 Jan 2019 10:50 »
"I want to give it all up", "disgraceful", "cost us £250,000"
Lovely rhetoric from such a lovely man, whose day was ruined by one person, his own player
3 minutes in, attacking position, gives the ball away, commits a late tackle, scissor challenge and correctly gets booked
Second half, in midfield, poor control, taken off him, lunges in, catches Nugent late, receives 2nd correct yellow
I trust the alleged lost income comes out of the players wages, as it certainly wasnt Moss' fault
I find Moss' style fussy at best but even I cant argue against today's decisions
I think he'll have a bit of explaining to do to the FA this week. What is a disgrace? There was a FK before the Derby goal, but was multiple phases of play beforehand. He got the Accrington Red bang on, two yellow card challenges. Got the Derby Red correct also, and was rightfully nowhere near the penalty area.

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Re: Mr Coleman
« Reply #3 on: Sun 27 Jan 2019 11:26 »
See I disagree, I don't think it [the second yellow] was a yellow card, I think if that had been Marriner(sp?) or Oliver he would've had a talking to.

This is one of the big problems with the likes of Jon Moss, Craig Pawson and Anthony Taylor, they referee through their cards and then create issues later in the game for themselves.
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« Reply #4 on: Sun 27 Jan 2019 11:41 »
Was a lunge, albeit mistimed. Definite yellow card. Had a "premier" league referee not issued it he would have been accused of double standards/not doing his job/feeling the game is beneath him

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Re: Mr Coleman
« Reply #5 on: Sun 27 Jan 2019 11:51 »
I haven't seen anything of this game yet, so cannot comment on decisions taken by Jon Moss. However Mr Coleman has always been regarded as one of the most popular managers in this part of the country, and I know from the BBC NW News that he was really looking forward to this tie and the chance to get through to the 5th round. It is a great pity imo if he has allowed his emotions to get the better of him. That is all I can say about Mr Coleman. Now regarding the recently departed manager of Peterborough and his replacement.....  ::) 

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Re: Mr Coleman
« Reply #6 on: Sun 27 Jan 2019 11:58 »
The second yellow card is perhaps a case of which angle you look at it and of course the speed with which it happened. A fair decision though and Mr Moss was in a good position but I think two points can be made. Firstly Oliver was praised for keeping his cards in his pocket in wet conditions. But why should that be unless someone goes of their feet as a result of a slip? So we have the consistency debate even when comparing the top referees. Secondly, I have read here on this forum about the poor refereeing standards in the third and fourth tier of football so I would imagine it would be a bit of a shock for Accrington to see a good referee doing his job and what is acceptable and what you can get away with.
I saw another referee who did a good job yesterday but still upset one set of unreasonable coaches and no amount of effort on the referee's part was ever going to appease them and it appears that Mr Coleman acted likewise. End of debate. A sensible, calm discussion was never ever going to take place. Mr Coleman's comments are unnecessary - disgraceful even whatever his viewpoint. His Chairman seems a decent enough guy reading the article in the Mail yesterday - sadly Mr Coleman has set his Chairman's efforts to establish a community club and his own for that matter back a tad.

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« Reply #7 on: Sun 27 Jan 2019 14:25 »
I can't believe there is even a debate about whether the red card was correct.  He's lunged at speed, got nowhere near the ball and caught the opponent.  Coleman should be taking it out on his player for making such a silly attempt at a challenge when already on a caution.

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« Reply #8 on: Sun 27 Jan 2019 16:08 »
I can't believe there is even a debate about whether the red card was correct.  He's lunged at speed, got nowhere near the ball and caught the opponent.  Coleman should be taking it out on his player for making such a silly attempt at a challenge when already on a caution.

Hear hear. Not a fan of moss but both red cards clear and easy decisions!

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« Reply #9 on: Sun 27 Jan 2019 20:10 »
John Coleman has today made an apology to Jon Moss and acknowledged he was wrong to imply that Moss was responsible for their exit from the cup. As Acme Thunderer suggested, Coleman is one of the most likeable personalities and his outburst was out of character. At the end of the day, how many of can say they have never lost their cool at work? If anyone can, they are entitled to throw the first stone
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Re: Mr Coleman
« Reply #10 on: Sun 27 Jan 2019 20:45 »
Fair play to him if that is the case

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Re: Mr Coleman
« Reply #11 on: Sun 27 Jan 2019 21:20 »
Fair play to him if that is the case

Hear hear!

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Re: Mr Coleman
« Reply #12 on: Sun 27 Jan 2019 22:55 »
Fair play to him if that is the case

Just watched it, came on here and very happy to see that he has apologised.
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Re: Mr Coleman
« Reply #13 on: Sun 27 Jan 2019 23:10 »
I haven't seen anything of this game yet, so cannot comment on decisions taken by Jon Moss. However Mr Coleman has always been regarded as one of the most popular managers in this part of the country, and I know from the BBC NW News that he was really looking forward to this tie and the chance to get through to the 5th round. It is a great pity imo if he has allowed his emotions to get the better of him. That is all I can say about Mr Coleman. Now regarding the recently departed manager of Peterborough and his replacement.....  ::)

You might have a different opinion if Coleman and his horrible sidekick had managed your club in the dreadful way they did with mine.

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Re: Mr Coleman
« Reply #14 on: Mon 28 Jan 2019 07:17 »
Anyones opinion on another individuals character/personality as a human being, has no relevance to their judgement of that persons abilities as a professional football manager