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Re: Referee Assaulted
« Reply #30 on: Wed 26 Aug 2020 16:22 »
The referee has let down every other grassroots referee in the country by not pressing charges.

Regardless of the player’s health - mental or physical, or his occupation - the law serves everyone.

Don't agree on part one. He was dissuaded from pressing charges on the day, which was pretty shameful and not on his part. He then sought advice from refereeing colleagues and has since contacted the police several times to try and get assault charges started off, the police however have not taken a statement from him. It is they/the system that has let every referee down and not the referee who was a victim of assault, discouraged to press charges on the day & ignored since by the very people who should be offering him support.

Agree on part 2!
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Re: Referee Assaulted
« Reply #31 on: Wed 26 Aug 2020 17:33 »
I don't think it will have helped matters that he has done several media interviews about the incident.  You don't very often see assault victims doing this as they are advised not to speak to the press for fear of prejudicing any potential further action, be that from the laws of the land or football authorities.
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Re: Referee Assaulted
« Reply #32 on: Tue 08 Sep 2020 14:55 »
The FA have banned the player for 10 years.

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1303218623893377024

Leisure leagues have gone further and banned him for life from their leagues.

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1303325828906913792
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Re: Referee Assaulted
« Reply #33 on: Tue 08 Sep 2020 20:11 »
The FA have banned the player for 10 years.

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1303218623893377024

Leisure leagues have gone further and banned him for life from their leagues.

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1303325828906913792

Joke!!!
He’ll be out there playing somewhere. Ban the **** for life. FA too soft and doesn’t do enough to support grassroots referees. No wonder they leave in their droves!
No news yet on whether the met police will take any action
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Re: Referee Assaulted
« Reply #34 on: Tue 08 Sep 2020 20:38 »
The FA have banned the player for 10 years.

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1303218623893377024

Leisure leagues have gone further and banned him for life from their leagues.

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1303325828906913792

Joke!!!
He’ll be out there playing somewhere. Ban the **** for life. FA too soft and doesn’t do enough to support grassroots referees. No wonder they leave in their droves!
No news yet on whether the met police will take any action

Not that I don't agree but banning him for life will no more stop him registering for another club under a different name than a 10 year ban will.
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Re: Referee Assaulted
« Reply #35 on: Tue 08 Sep 2020 21:49 »
The FA have banned the player for 10 years.

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1303218623893377024

Leisure leagues have gone further and banned him for life from their leagues.

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1303325828906913792

Joke!!!
He’ll be out there playing somewhere. Ban the **** for life. FA too soft and doesn’t do enough to support grassroots referees. No wonder they leave in their droves!
No news yet on whether the met police will take any action

Not that I don't agree but banning him for life will no more stop him registering for another club under a different name than a 10 year ban will.

Unfortunately I agree

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« Last Edit: Wed 09 Sep 2020 00:24 by bmb »

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Re: Referee Assaulted
« Reply #36 on: Sat 19 Sep 2020 15:58 »
The player received a caution from the police... A caution! 

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1307319879222136833
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Re: Referee Assaulted
« Reply #37 on: Sat 19 Sep 2020 16:08 »
The player received a caution from the police... A caution! 

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1307319879222136833

Hard to believe that decision, however, in these modern times, I am not surprised ----so sad what people can get away with.
Referee's decision used to be final!
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Re: Referee Assaulted
« Reply #38 on: Sat 19 Sep 2020 22:32 »
All the publicity has not helped this situation. There is a reason why referees are told not to talk the media.

Maybe the CPS didn’t think he would get a fair trial? Especially as a charity had offered Ł100 to the first video they received of the attacker playing football again!

I’m not saying the decision is correct, far from it, but it’s certainly a case to be learnt from for the next referee who suffers an attack, and I find it very sad that I cannot put “if they suffer”.

I find it abhorrent that these things happen, but sadly it’s a society we live in today.

I look at today’s football and the so called pundits “Mike’s (Dean) lost his composure there, Bilic hasn’t sworn at him”. “That retake is ridiculous, he’s millimetres off his line” (The pundit has contradicted himself in that remark).  It is my belief that anybody involved in commentating or punditry should be made to pass a laws of the game test and read competition rules and then maybe, JUST MAYBE, they wouldn’t come out with this nonsense and undermine referees. I really do believe that this is a big root of the problem. It’s always the referees fault never the stupidity of players not knowing the laws (apart from when it’s indefensible like today’s early red card).

It’s funny because whilst I’ve been watching the rugby most of the afternoon, all the presentation teams have been knowledgable and know the interpretations of the laws/rules and they don’t have the slightest problem with calling out stupidity of the odd player to transgress. If a referee makes an error, they are always looking to see why (s)he made that error, not just berate them.

It’s been interesting since the start of the season how much non league gates have increased with people just wanting to go out and watch live football. I really hope that it continues to serve up some proper football and these big companies might then need to start thinking about things if people stop their subscriptions.

Anyway rant over!
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Re: Referee Assaulted
« Reply #39 on: Sun 20 Sep 2020 01:36 »
I know I go on about Hungary a lot but the difference in the media coverage is huge! During the commentary they will call a player out for play acting, they rarely mention the referee at all.  If there is a big error then they will say so but in a very matter of fact way like an oops he called that wrong and then move on, it'll be discussed briefly in the HT or FT chat along with everything else, it's not made the main focus. The referee doesn't headline in the written press, like in the UK, and mention of any error will feature a whole line somewhere in the report at most. How it used to be here before the money took over. When it comes to foreign referees doing UCL/UEL or NT games, they might be a bit more harsh than towards our referees. When Karasev made that huge error in the Euros game, there were several complaints about the commentator being sarcastic about him in the commentary, comments such as oh he managed to get that call right etc. and there was absolute outcry over it despite Karasev being declared an enemy of Hungary for all eternity! It doesn't happen in our league games though at all and they will often comment on something like a good advantage, correct penalty or some good man management etc.  They spent 5 mins praising Solymosi Péter on one of the week 2 games for his excellent man management and rapport with the players. Thank you Tünde for translating what was being said for me!

Our disciplinary committee is ace as well when it comes to backing referees. I did a post just before we moved forums to here about a player getting a 4 month ban for squaring up to a referee after receiving a red card in the NBI. His club immediately sacked him & he's played about 5 games in another country since. It ruined him. Instant fines for clubs if any of the coaching staff get sent off during a game on top of the ban the coach involved will serve and non appealable. It's simply not tolerated.
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