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Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
« on: Mon 26 Oct 2020 21:04 »
Not quite sure where to start here.  Barnes elbows Alderweireld in the face and it's not even reviewed by VAR.  For me it has to be a yellow card minimum, I've seen players sent off for way less!  The Belgian stays down for just over 4 minutes getting bandaged up by the medical team, yes I counted, coupled with excess time-wasting from the home side, and somehow Mr Oliver decides 3 minutes are correct.  Truly baffling time-keeping, one wonders how he lost a whole 2 minutes of a wretched game.

Has missed a couple of fouls on Doherty and Ndombele, plus Brownhill booked after 1 minute for next to nothing challenge on Ndombele. 

A shocking half in what has been a simple game to officiate.  Awful game of football too...

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Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
« Reply #1 on: Mon 26 Oct 2020 21:47 »
Burnley seem to have suddenly decided to take their set pieces quicker instead of playing for a dull 0-0.  They might yet nick a point here though with Spurs' defending...

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Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
« Reply #2 on: Mon 26 Oct 2020 21:49 »
Awful challenge there from Lamela, has to be at least a yellow card and VAR review.  Cannot understand this officiating and the adaptation of VAR in this country by our "Select Group".
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Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
« Reply #3 on: Mon 26 Oct 2020 22:10 »
We won't even mention Son rolling around because he kicked an opponents foot and got him booked or Lamela's challenge on McNeill which didn't  even merit a free kick and, in the modern game, could have been seen as a RC with studs showing.

Yes, things are definitely getting worse and Spurs will have to improve if  they are going to win anything this season. 62% possesssion and managed 9 shots.
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Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
« Reply #4 on: Mon 26 Oct 2020 22:21 »
Well Mourinho has just come out and praised Michael Oliver more than he did any of his players.  And he wasn't being sarcastic, it was genuine praise, so I think you are way off the mark with your criticism.  Including with the Brownhill caution, yes it was the first minute but it was a clear case of stopping a promising attack so is a mandatory caution.
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Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
« Reply #5 on: Mon 26 Oct 2020 22:21 »
Maybe if Burnley go for games a bit more by playing some football through the lines, they would be higher up the table.  Dreadful performance from both sides, one trying to suck the life out of it as they do game-in, game out, and the other lethargic and for once fortunate to nick an undeserved win.

The kick on Heung-Min Son at the end by Kevin Long was a little bit nasty in how late it was, but a standard yellow card.  Dyche whinging and shouting at Oliver at the final whistle but I'm not quite sure why....

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Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
« Reply #6 on: Mon 26 Oct 2020 22:23 »
Well Mourinho has just come out and praised Michael Oliver more than he did any of his players.  And he wasn't being sarcastic, it was genuine praise, so I think you are way off the mark with your criticism.  Including with the Brownhill caution, yes it was the first minute but it was a clear case of stopping a promising attack so is a mandatory caution.

For me there wasn't a great deal in it.  I agree with 1st minute of last is irrelevant for sure, we see too many officials not give yellows because it's early in the game which is bad, but in this case it was not enough for my opinion.

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Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
« Reply #7 on: Mon 26 Oct 2020 22:24 »
Well Mourinho has just come out and praised Michael Oliver more than he did any of his players.  And he wasn't being sarcastic, it was genuine praise, so I think you are way off the mark with your criticism.  Including with the Brownhill caution, yes it was the first minute but it was a clear case of stopping a promising attack so is a mandatory caution.

Did you really think that that was a promising attack with the way Spurs played all night?
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Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
« Reply #8 on: Mon 26 Oct 2020 22:32 »
Well Mourinho has just come out and praised Michael Oliver more than he did any of his players.  And he wasn't being sarcastic, it was genuine praise, so I think you are way off the mark with your criticism.  Including with the Brownhill caution, yes it was the first minute but it was a clear case of stopping a promising attack so is a mandatory caution.

That's interesting - must be a first!

I wasn't too concerned when Oliver only gave the free kick for the aerial challenge by Barnes.  When 2 players jump like that, it's difficult if not impossible to keep your arms by your side.  Personally, I felt it was sensible refereeing and I thought Oliver was controlling a potentially tough game very well, but was surprised Lamela wasn't penalised for that challenge near the end with a YC.  Both Taylor and Oliver have now been very lenient with him in the space of a couple of weeks.
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Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
« Reply #9 on: Mon 26 Oct 2020 22:40 »
Well Mourinho has just come out and praised Michael Oliver more than he did any of his players.  And he wasn't being sarcastic, it was genuine praise, so I think you are way off the mark with your criticism.  Including with the Brownhill caution, yes it was the first minute but it was a clear case of stopping a promising attack so is a mandatory caution.

Did you really think that that was a promising attack with the way Spurs played all night?

If you pull someone back and chop them down the skill level or level of the game is irrelevant.  If that was on Hackney Marshes on a Sunday morning it would still be a caution as it was a tactical foul, and notably the player had no complaints whatsoever about it.

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Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
« Reply #10 on: Mon 26 Oct 2020 22:58 »
Well Mourinho has just come out and praised Michael Oliver more than he did any of his players.  And he wasn't being sarcastic, it was genuine praise, so I think you are way off the mark with your criticism.  Including with the Brownhill caution, yes it was the first minute but it was a clear case of stopping a promising attack so is a mandatory caution.

Did you really think that that was a promising attack with the way Spurs played all night?

If you pull someone back and chop them down the skill level or level of the game is irrelevant.  If that was on Hackney Marshes on a Sunday morning it would still be a caution as it was a tactical foul, and notably the player had no complaints whatsoever about it.

That wasn't my question though, was it? 
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Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
« Reply #11 on: Tue 27 Oct 2020 11:12 »
Not quite sure where to start here.  Barnes elbows Alderweireld in the face and it's not even reviewed by VAR.  For me it has to be a yellow card minimum, I've seen players sent off for way less!  The Belgian stays down for just over 4 minutes getting bandaged up by the medical team, yes I counted, coupled with excess time-wasting from the home side, and somehow Mr Oliver decides 3 minutes are correct.  Truly baffling time-keeping, one wonders how he lost a whole 2 minutes of a wretched game.

Has missed a couple of fouls on Doherty and Ndombele, plus Brownhill booked after 1 minute for next to nothing challenge on Ndombele. 

A shocking half in what has been a simple game to officiate.  Awful game of football too...

Burnley wasting time???? Surely not !!!
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Re: Michael Oliver - Burnley vs. Spurs
« Reply #12 on: Thu 29 Oct 2020 19:01 »
Not quite sure where to start here.  Barnes elbows Alderweireld in the face and it's not even reviewed by VAR.  For me it has to be a yellow card minimum, I've seen players sent off for way less!  The Belgian stays down for just over 4 minutes getting bandaged up by the medical team, yes I counted, coupled with excess time-wasting from the home side, and somehow Mr Oliver decides 3 minutes are correct.  Truly baffling time-keeping, one wonders how he lost a whole 2 minutes of a wretched game.

Has missed a couple of fouls on Doherty and Ndombele, plus Brownhill booked after 1 minute for next to nothing challenge on Ndombele. 

A shocking half in what has been a simple game to officiate.  Awful game of football too...

Burnley wasting time???? Surely not !!!

I know right!?  They suck the life out of you, although their defensive abilities and shape are to be admired.  They don't have money to spend compared to nearly everyone else and have a loyal fanbase who deserve better regarding the style of play.  Players like Brownhill, Cork and especially Dwight McNeil are all very capable footballers who can play attractively, and with Barnes & Wood up front they deserve better than the ball being lumped up after a long break every time the ball goes out!
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