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Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 17:25 »
An embarrassment of a first-half from Martin Atkinson here.  After a good weekend for the officials he's having a mare here....

Bellerin commits 3 foul throws, the first 2 go unpunished and the 3rd one he's pulled up on - bizarre!  That's just for starters.... 

Hojbjerg with a clear obstruction on an Arsenal forward, Atkinson plays a good advantage but no booking for the Dane subsequently.

Xhaka commits 3 fouls on Kane, one of them cynical in the extreme lobbying his body across as he was preparing to shoot, bizarrely no yellow card for the Arsenal man on any occasion.  As usual Xhaka getting away with foul after foul after foul.

Lo Celso commits a nothing foul in midfield, it's barely a foul, and gets a yellow card because Willian, as usual, goes down and rolling around "in agony" clutching his leg to get him booked.  Then a FK for Arsenal for a "foul" by Lo Celso on the edge of the area .... he CLEARLY wins.  It wasn't even a difficult one.  Just as well for Martin that only a corner came from this...

Shocking stuff from Atkinson, really, really bad :(

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Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« Reply #1 on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 17:59 »
You a Spurs fan by any chance?

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Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« Reply #2 on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 18:10 »
I couldn't disagree more.  I Think Atkinson has had a great game so far.  Not fussy and carded at the right times.
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Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« Reply #3 on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 18:14 »
Aye, blame the officials when there are players all over the field doing everything they can to 'con' the officials.

A competitive derby game which he has allowed to flow as much as possible once the initial spate of early fouls by both teams had been dealt with in a correct manner without going over the top with issuiing cards ---I think  that they call it common sense, something which the authorities seem to be trying to eradicate in their quest to make human officials into robots.

I do hope that Martin continues to be truly shocking, he may still be a help in rescuinng the game from the downward spiral, however, I think that he may well retire before it totally becomes a non-contact sport.
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Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« Reply #4 on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 18:16 »
You a Spurs fan by any chance?

And...???  Which of my comments for and against are incorrect, exactly???

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Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« Reply #5 on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 18:18 »
His mistreatment in the way he handled Xhaka's fouls and Lo Celso's were the definition of inconsistency.

He has however done better in the second-half, I will admit.

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Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« Reply #6 on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 18:23 »


Hojbjerg with a clear obstruction on an Arsenal forward, Atkinson plays a good advantage but no booking for the Dane subsequently.



Not watching but you're wrong in law here.......

Firstly - no such thing as obstruction in law any more, hasn't been for years.

Secondly, if an advantage is played from an attempt to deny a promising attack then the offender is no longer cautioned so if MA had cautioned he would have been wrong. (Law change this season)

If you are going to berate officials it helps to know what you're talking about.
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Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« Reply #7 on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 18:38 »


Hojbjerg with a clear obstruction on an Arsenal forward, Atkinson plays a good advantage but no booking for the Dane subsequently.



Not watching but you're wrong in law here.......

Firstly - no such thing as obstruction in law any more, hasn't been for years.

Secondly, if an advantage is played from an attempt to deny a promising attack then the offender is no longer cautioned so if MA had cautioned he would have been wrong. (Law change this season)

If you are going to berate officials it helps to know what you're talking about.

Referees fail to punish time-wasting & keepers holding onto the ball, that's in the rulebook!  Just an example of the reverse of what you're saying.  Officials regularly aren't following the rulebook!  His inconsistency on Bellerin's foul throws for example!

Hojbjerg obstructed the play aka he stopped a promising attack was what I meant.  Apologies my error on the rule change, it's a ridiculous change, but not Atkinson's fault.  A player could get away with as many fouls as they liked if there were advantages each and every time, crazy!
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Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« Reply #8 on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 18:50 »
Aye, blame the officials when there are players all over the field doing everything they can to 'con' the officials.

A competitive derby game which he has allowed to flow as much as possible once the initial spate of early fouls by both teams had been dealt with in a correct manner without going over the top with issuiing cards ---I think  that they call it common sense, something which the authorities seem to be trying to eradicate in their quest to make human officials into robots.

I do hope that Martin continues to be truly shocking, he may still be a help in rescuinng the game from the downward spiral, however, I think that he may well retire before it totally becomes a non-contact sport.

So Xhaka throwing his body across Kane's midriff to stop him shooting on the edge of the area, one of the most cynical you will see, and not getting a yellow card is common sense?  What a load of nonsense!  It's a foul and a yellow card all day, every day of any professional football match.
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Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« Reply #9 on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:09 »
An embarrassment of a first-half from Martin Atkinson here.  After a good weekend for the officials he's having a mare here....

Bellerin commits 3 foul throws, the first 2 go unpunished and the 3rd one he's pulled up on - bizarre!  That's just for starters.... 

Hojbjerg with a clear obstruction on an Arsenal forward, Atkinson plays a good advantage but no booking for the Dane subsequently.

Xhaka commits 3 fouls on Kane, one of them cynical in the extreme lobbying his body across as he was preparing to shoot, bizarrely no yellow card for the Arsenal man on any occasion.  As usual Xhaka getting away with foul after foul after foul.

Lo Celso commits a nothing foul in midfield, it's barely a foul, and gets a yellow card because Willian, as usual, goes down and rolling around "in agony" clutching his leg to get him booked.  Then a FK for Arsenal for a "foul" by Lo Celso on the edge of the area .... he CLEARLY wins.  It wasn't even a difficult one.  Just as well for Martin that only a corner came from this...

Shocking stuff from Atkinson, really, really bad :(

If you are going to criticise a referee you really, really, should make sure that you know the law that you are criticising them about, otherwise you make yourself look very silly indeed.  If you play advantage from a foul that stops a promising attack you can no longer go back and caution for it and to do so would be incorrect in law.  The argument being that it didn't stop a promising attack as the promising attack still happened because of the advantage.

I thought Atkinson had a very good game, hardly noticed him to be honest which is usually a good sign.
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Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« Reply #10 on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:20 »
Aye, blame the officials when there are players all over the field doing everything they can to 'con' the officials.

A competitive derby game which he has allowed to flow as much as possible once the initial spate of early fouls by both teams had been dealt with in a correct manner without going over the top with issuiing cards ---I think  that they call it common sense, something which the authorities seem to be trying to eradicate in their quest to make human officials into robots.

I do hope that Martin continues to be truly shocking, he may still be a help in rescuinng the game from the downward spiral, however, I think that he may well retire before it totally becomes a non-contact sport.

So Xhaka throwing his body across Kane's midriff to stop him shooting on the edge of the area, one of the most cynical you will see, and not getting a yellow card is common sense?  What a load of nonsense!  It's a foul and a yellow card all day, every day of any professional football match.

It was nothing more nor nothing less than a foul and a free kick was given. There simply is no need for the obsession for yellow cards which proliferates in English Premier League football these days --even great tackles are being rewarded with yellow cards.
I will agree that things are definitely getting worse ever since the 2018 World Cup when FIFA started interfering with the decisions by onfield officials.
Mind you, it will get even worse until someone sees sense and lets officials do their job without outside interference.
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Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« Reply #11 on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:26 »
If you’re setting that performance as the bar for “embarrassment” and “shocking” you’re going to be in for some serious surprises between now and the end of the season!
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Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« Reply #12 on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 21:04 »
You a Spurs fan by any chance?

And...???  Which of my comments for and against are incorrect, exactly???

I think everyone else in this thread has pointed your deficiency in the argument (if there was one to even begin with) quite nicely.
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Re: Martin Atkinson - Tottenham vs. Arsenal
« Reply #13 on: Sun 06 Dec 2020 23:37 »
Xhaka prevented a very likely goal from Kane by committing that foul, how it went unpunished does not make any sense.  Particularly when you compare to Lo Celso's yellow for next to nothing on the half-way line.  Madness.

And Paul Tierney deciding that Pereira committed violent conduct today was an even bigger joke, what was he looking at!?!?  The same man on VAR who decided Son's "kick" on Rudiger last season was a red.  It is NOT violent conduct!

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« Reply #14 on: Mon 07 Dec 2020 07:34 »
Xhaka prevented a very likely goal from Kane by committing that foul, how it went unpunished does not make any sense.  Particularly when you compare to Lo Celso's yellow for next to nothing on the half-way line.  Madness.

And Paul Tierney deciding that Pereira committed violent conduct today was an even bigger joke, what was he looking at!?!?  The same man on VAR who decided Son's "kick" on Rudiger last season was a red.  It is NOT violent conduct!

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