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Author Topic: Martin Atkinson Man Utd vs Crystal Palace  (Read 1557 times)

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dave26

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Martin Atkinson Man Utd vs Crystal Palace
« on: Sat 19 Sep 2020 19:29 »
Average performance by Atkinson imo , no complaints about the result palace deserved it but the biggest decision was the poorest I’ve seen in many a year step forward VAR Jon Moss to have that penalty retaken for De Gea being the slightest margin off his line is really poor and embarrassing

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Average performance by Atkinson imo , no complaints about the result palace deserved it but the biggest decision was the poorest I’ve seen in many a year step forward VAR Jon Moss to have that penalty retaken for De Gea being the slightest margin off his line is really poor and embarrassing
Was any part of his feet on the line? No....

I don't therefore understand what the problem is.
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It was clearly stated before start of season no tolerance would be applied for keepers at penalties. Correct decision. First of many.n

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I agree Dave26, thought Atkinson looked a bit off the pace. Correct re. De Gea off his line but like the offsides last season very harsh when it's less an inch!
Not sure about the penalty -Lindelof is very close to Zaha, 1 yard away, and natural movement of his arm when running back.
The handball rule is an absolute con; we are going to see so many ridiculous handballs this season
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It was clearly stated before start of season no tolerance would be applied for keepers at penalties. Correct decision. First of many.n

Might be correct by law but not when he was barely off his line , I can guarantee you that you will see plenty of incidents this season where goalkeepers are well off their line on a penalty kick and the save stands
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Not sure about the penalty -Lindelof is very close to Zaha, 1 yard away, and natural movement of his arm when running back.
The handball rule is an absolute con; we are going to see so many ridiculous handballs this season
I'm sorry - in what godly earth, is an arm bent at head height "natural" ?
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It was clearly stated before start of season no tolerance would be applied for keepers at penalties. Correct decision. First of many.n

That's all well and good, but as we know, these things often peter out after a few weeks.

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It was clearly stated before start of season no tolerance would be applied for keepers at penalties. Correct decision. First of many.n

Might be correct by law but not when he was barely off his line , I can guarantee you that you will see plenty of incidents this season where goalkeepers are well off their line on a penalty kick and the save stands

Not in games with VAR.  Remember that FIFA are effectively in charge of VAR this season, not the Premier League / PGMOL, and they say that any encroachment that impacts on the penalty, no matter how minimal, must be sanctioned.
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Sorry, the game is a travesty if you’re going to penalise goalkeepers for that!
No advantage gained whatsoever and it is physically impossible for a goalkeeper to stay on his line and dive.
They’d be as well starting two yards behind the line if this is the precedent!!
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How they have both come up with the penalty decision in the first place is beyond comprehension......
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 Well done Jon Moss. Too many occasions in the past goalkeepers have been treated far too leniently by referees.
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For me the issue isn't the retake, which is a factual decision, but the initial penalty. I really worry that if that is the measure by which handball is now judged, we're heading for a similar approach to in UEFA football where pretty much every time it hits a hand it's handball, which doesn't sit well with me. The problem is that most handballs look worse in super slow motion and there's no allowance for full speed natural body movements when running, jumping or tackling.
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And yet a more clear cut handball goes unpunished in the arsenal - West Ham game...

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Not sure about the penalty -Lindelof is very close to Zaha, 1 yard away, and natural movement of his arm when running back.
The handball rule is an absolute con; we are going to see so many ridiculous handballs this season
I'm sorry - in what godly earth, is an arm bent at head height "natural" ?

If you look at it again his hand isn’t at head height. When you run your arms are going to come up naturally, you can’t run with your arms by your side

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we're heading for a similar approach to in UEFA football

Well as we are part of UEFA, then maybe it’s about time we are adopting the same approach. It can’t be good for players, and our referees, playing to one set of law interpretation in the Premier League and then playing to a different set midweek in European competitions or European qualifiers etc.

This is how FIFA/UEFA want elite football. Hopefully the fans will vote their feet/ tv subscriptions.
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