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Author Topic: Manchester City v Brentford- Peter Bankes (VAR: David Coote)  (Read 1004 times)

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A couple of busy minutes between 25' and 30'

Handball on edge of the box couldn't be given as a pen, no conclusive angle, on field decision stays

The manic 20 seconds in the City box, certainly no foul on Haaland and De bruyne being tackled was too soft, however that begs the question why was a penalty give last week??

Good work from Bankes who kept a cool head and coote in var

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Perhaps they need 4 more cameras

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Detecting Cancelo's dive was very good because Bankes used pure intuition (or to say it another way - he guessed) to get the decision correct - he was caught too far right and not in a good position to assess the incident. Good call. Many, many KMIs which will/would need a detailed look back on but overall I saw a very competent but only modestly able referee (no real advantages for him in personality, movement, decision-taking etc) referee today - PGMOL made the right decision to hook Bankes from the FIFA list, his prospects internationally would be quite limited.
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Detecting Cancelo's dive was very good because Bankes used pure intuition (or to say it another way - he guessed) to get the decision correct - he was caught too far right and not in a good position to assess the incident. Good call. Many, many KMIs which will/would need a detailed look back on but overall I saw a very competent but only modestly able referee (no real advantages for him in personality, movement, decision-taking etc) referee today - PGMOL made the right decision to hook Bankes from the FIFA list, his prospects internationally would be quite limited.

I thought he was very good, kept a cool head throughout the game and got most calls right, vitally all the important ones were correct

He probably should've booked Guardiola though. Multiple times he was on the pitch if my eyes don't deceive me!

He looks a safe pair of hands but I do agree with your FIFA point
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Detecting Cancelo's dive was very good because Bankes used pure intuition (or to say it another way - he guessed) to get the decision correct - he was caught too far right and not in a good position to assess the incident. Good call. Many, many KMIs which will/would need a detailed look back on but overall I saw a very competent but only modestly able referee (no real advantages for him in personality, movement, decision-taking etc) referee today - PGMOL made the right decision to hook Bankes from the FIFA list, his prospects internationally would be quite limited.

I thought he was very good, kept a cool head throughout the game and got most calls right, vitally all the important ones were correct

He probably should've booked Guardiola though. Multiple times he was on the pitch if my eyes don't deceive me!

He looks a safe pair of hands but I do agree with your FIFA point

Agree. I ought to have ended my first comment on a (deservedly) positive note - well done to him today, held his nerve in a difficult match.
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Detecting Cancelo's dive was very good because Bankes used pure intuition (or to say it another way - he guessed) to get the decision correct - he was caught too far right and not in a good position to assess the incident. Good call. Many, many KMIs which will/would need a detailed look back on but overall I saw a very competent but only modestly able referee (no real advantages for him in personality, movement, decision-taking etc) referee today - PGMOL made the right decision to hook Bankes from the FIFA list, his prospects internationally would be quite limited.

How do you know he guessed?
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Detecting Cancelo's dive was very good because Bankes used pure intuition (or to say it another way - he guessed) to get the decision correct - he was caught too far right and not in a good position to assess the incident. Good call. Many, many KMIs which will/would need a detailed look back on but overall I saw a very competent but only modestly able referee (no real advantages for him in personality, movement, decision-taking etc) referee today - PGMOL made the right decision to hook Bankes from the FIFA list, his prospects internationally would be quite limited.

How do you know he guessed?

It's fairer just to call it as an excellent decision. All that matters in the end is that the right decision was made


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« Last Edit: Sat 12 Nov 2022 18:18 by bmb »
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Detecting Cancelo's dive was very good because Bankes used pure intuition (or to say it another way - he guessed) to get the decision correct - he was caught too far right and not in a good position to assess the incident. Good call. Many, many KMIs which will/would need a detailed look back on but overall I saw a very competent but only modestly able referee (no real advantages for him in personality, movement, decision-taking etc) referee today - PGMOL made the right decision to hook Bankes from the FIFA list, his prospects internationally would be quite limited.

How do you know he guessed?

Well I don't know, and it was obviously an "educated guess" rather than a 'stab in the dark', but it is pretty obvious that he took this decision from 'experience' rather than excellent perception/positioning. You can see that he is craining his next to look through a number of players, and then his first reaction is not to blow up for a dive, but instead to run left, and then he 'works out' that probably it was simulation so signals a defensive freekick and gives the yellow card. Bankes had two oppotunities to run left to get the perfect 'insight angle' into the penalty area incident, declined both, and was fortunate that a 'corridor' opened up through the Brentford players so he could get a half-decent view.

However, any discussion like that should be in the 'developing for the future' heading is all is part conjecture, as he got the decision right.

(@Adam - this was a good/very good decision; an "excellent" decision would be to caution Foden too for blatant mobbing :)).

EDIT: see this image, the black square is where the referee ought to have been positioned.
https://imgur.com/a/brdS1Ms
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Bankes was very good, I was impressed with his performance.

I wonder if I should guess whether a RTR poster has guessed whether Bankes guessed? To give a caution you have got to be pretty sure and by his action and body language Bankes looked pretty sure to me.
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Lots of penalty appeals for City and Peter Bankes did well not to fall for any of them like his colleague did last weekend.

I still think his first instinct was penalty for the cancelo dive hence the run to the left but I think he just saw the fall (he was poorly positioned) and then had already blown so decided on a dive (good call)

De Bruyne was lucky not to be carded for as bad a dive as the one last week.

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Detecting Cancelo's dive was very good because Bankes used pure intuition (or to say it another way - he guessed) to get the decision correct - he was caught too far right and not in a good position to assess the incident. Good call. Many, many KMIs which will/would need a detailed look back on but overall I saw a very competent but only modestly able referee (no real advantages for him in personality, movement, decision-taking etc) referee today - PGMOL made the right decision to hook Bankes from the FIFA list, his prospects internationally would be quite limited.

How do you know he guessed?

Well I don't know, and it was obviously an "educated guess" rather than a 'stab in the dark', but it is pretty obvious that he took this decision from 'experience' rather than excellent perception/positioning. You can see that he is craining his next to look through a number of players, and then his first reaction is not to blow up for a dive, but instead to run left, and then he 'works out' that probably it was simulation so signals a defensive freekick and gives the yellow card. Bankes had two oppotunities to run left to get the perfect 'insight angle' into the penalty area incident, declined both, and was fortunate that a 'corridor' opened up through the Brentford players so he could get a half-decent view.

However, any discussion like that should be in the 'developing for the future' heading is all is part conjecture, as he got the decision right.

(@Adam - this was a good/very good decision; an "excellent" decision would be to caution Foden too for blatant mobbing :)).

EDIT: see this image, the black square is where the referee ought to have been positioned.
https://imgur.com/a/brdS1Ms

Another referee struggling because they did not take a wider patrol path.  He would have had a clearer view had he been 10 yards wider - even if that would have meant being 10 yards further away.


Edited to fix quote thingamajigga, bmb
« Last Edit: Sun 13 Nov 2022 14:55 by bmb »
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A wider position may have given Bankes a clearer view in terms of less players to obstruct it, but I suspect as it happened he had a better angle to judge whether or not there was any contact.  Apart from a City player who I felt should have been cautioned, I thought it was a solid performance from Mr Bankes.