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Author Topic: Man City v Tottenham Carabao Cup Final - Paul Tierney  (Read 1385 times)

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magpie1892

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Not been impressed first half, think he has struggled to control the game and Laporte should have had a yellow much earlier than he did

Doesn't feel like he has control of the game and think not giving Laporte the yellow early on seems to have caused a few tackles from others in frustration which he has then had to give yellows for.

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Agreed if Laporte gets booked he doesn’t make that tackle to get booked or he does and he’s off
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Not been impressed first half, think he has struggled to control the game and Laporte should have had a yellow much earlier than he did

Doesn't feel like he has control of the game and think not giving Laporte the yellow early on seems to have caused a few tackles from others in frustration which he has then had to give yellows for.

And now he’s scored...

Not a good performance from Tierney I’m afraid. He’s been fairly consistent in the last few months but he’s been off the boil today.
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Cup Final syndrome, not wanting to caution to early and be seen to possibly ruin the game, but I think he will reflect and wish he did what would have been done in every other game.
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Poor Paul Tierney, what must he have thought when the only goal is scored by the person he should have sent off??!!
Alas we have all been there, but he's a professional official and he can't afford to make mistakes like that.
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Hendo

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Poor Paul Tierney, what must he have thought when the only goal is scored by the person he should have sent off??!!
Alas we have all been there, but he's a professional official and he can't afford to make mistakes like that.

I am not sure he “must have thought” anything. At the time he didn’t feel it was a booking so never gave it. Laporte was correctly booked later. Maybe being on a yellow he might not have committed the 2nd foul. Who knows?
Hindsight is a wonderful thing
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Exactly that.  You can only say it is a missed red card if it is a second yellow that is incorrectly missed.  The same doesn't work when it is a first yellow missed as it would be very unlikely that Laporte would have made that challenge had he already been on a caution, rather a different player would have taken out Moura to stop the attack.
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I agree that both of Laporte's challenges merited a YC, but suspect that if he'd been booked for the first one, he'd probably have pulled out of the second, given it happened in the middle of the park, with enough covering defenders to make it unnecessary. While not Mr Tierney's finest moment, hardly in the Phil Dowd league for Cup Final Syndrome.
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Cup Final syndrome, not wanting to caution to early and be seen to possibly ruin the game, but I think he will reflect and wish he did what would have been done in every other game.
Well said carter. If it’s in PL Laporte’s first challenge should be a YC but when it comes to a final, referee should be more cautious about early fouls and try to control the game with words instead of cards. Thus the decision made by Tierney is totally reasonable. Plus even if he is carded earlier, he probably would not make a clumsy challenge on Lucas Moura later, so I’m not convinced by the saying “he should be sent off”.
Overall Paul did a very good game with calmness and authority imo.
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« Reply #9 on: Sun 25 Apr 2021 20:24 »
Excellent referee Paul Tierney made a crucial in not booking Laporte in the first half. Booked in the second half which should have led to a red card.

To rub it in for Spurs, he then scores the winner!

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In the 16th minute Reguilon made a blatant "professional" foul on Foden to stop him getting away from him, as clear a yellow card as you are likely to see.  Shortly after that De Bruyne decides that if this is the standard of refereeing he can flatten Son after the ball has gone without reprisal.  In the 28th minute Reguilon finally gets a yellow card for another rash challenge.  Surprised not to see the same indignation for Reguilon not receiving a yellow card for the challenge on Foden as for the Laporte challenges..
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In the 16th minute Reguilon made a blatant "professional" foul on Foden to stop him getting away from him, as clear a yellow card as you are likely to see.  Shortly after that De Bruyne decides that if this is the standard of refereeing he can flatten Son after the ball has gone without reprisal.  In the 28th minute Reguilon finally gets a yellow card for another rash challenge.  Surprised not to see the same indignation for Reguilon not receiving a yellow card for the challenge on Foden as for the Laporte challenges..
Completely agree with you microscopist, if reguilon and laporte had been cautioned earlier, they would both have been stupid to commit the offences they were carded for.

As a few have said you cannot say he should have sent laporte off or reguilon for that matter, as they werent offences committed after receiving a yellow card.

I think overall tierney had quite a good game, probably not as good as he had in the championship play off a few
Years back, he chose to be lenient early on and was consistent in doing so.

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In the 16th minute Reguilon made a blatant "professional" foul on Foden to stop him getting away from him, as clear a yellow card as you are likely to see.  Shortly after that De Bruyne decides that if this is the standard of refereeing he can flatten Son after the ball has gone without reprisal.  In the 28th minute Reguilon finally gets a yellow card for another rash challenge.  Surprised not to see the same indignation for Reguilon not receiving a yellow card for the challenge on Foden as for the Laporte challenges..


This is why the correct term for a Yellow Card is a caution.  Its a warning that a repeat offence will result in being dismissed from the field of play.  I do realise that I am old (in refereeing terms) and long retired, but we were taught - in refereeing school - that when cautioning a player to actually say to him that committing another cautionable offence will result in dismissal.

You would like to think that had both "stick on" cautions been correctly issued early in the game, the subsequent cautionable offences would not have taken place and the game would have been better for it.  Less stoppages = more football.  Sometimes a referee just needs to apply the Laws to make it a better game.

(Also in the appointments thread - feel free to edit!)
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Putting aside the question of yellows for Laporte and Regulion, 2 things which cannot be denied -

 Firstly City completely overwhelmed Spurs and anything other than victory would have been a travesty. It amuses me when teams like City have 80% of the play, 29 shots to 2 and play some wonderful attacking football without much luck while the defending side are pinned in defence and  throw their bodies on the line and then get a break away goal and boldly claim “a deserved victory”. I am thinking here of our games v Spurs earlier in the season and the recent game v Leeds

Secondly Harry Kane once again went missing in a big game ( and cry baby Son was even worse). Unfortunately for Kane he was not playing against San Marino with the chance to become a national hero with 2 penalties and a goal line tap in. I know someone will use the fact he was recently injured but so was De Bruyne and yesterday he was outstanding
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ajb95

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Hendo- since when has passing the ball for passing’s sake been exciting attacking football. Yes City can pass the ball all they want but City had 24 shots on goal but only 4 on target. And scored only 1 goal.
Yes City might have been the better team on the day but doesn’t mean you deserved to win.

That’s the arrogance of the big teams that because they dominate most of the games they are the better and more deserving side. Football is about scoring goals!
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