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cwh

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the news today
« on: Tue 14 Feb 2023 03:58 »
The latest  news today about grass roots refereeing makes very depressing reading -assaults,abuse,threats etc., -Chris Sutton seen refereeing a junior match (obviously staged} is a bit of a joke - although he make some valid points
I despair about how things are going - the situation seems to be getting worse - much blame seems to be placed on the amount of football seen on TV and the behaviour of the grossly overpaid professional players
What is the answer - it seems that nobody really knows
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« Reply #1 on: Tue 14 Feb 2023 08:32 »
Reflects society in general, the unwillingness to clamp down on bad behaviour or antisocial conduct. Football can do more, but the underlying problem lies beyond football.
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« Reply #2 on: Tue 14 Feb 2023 10:30 »
The problem is dissent has become so widely accepted in football, I read a lot of criticism of Gillet online for punishing Lemina for dissent. Iv’e seen fans get mad at they’re manager when he refrains from criticising the officials, for example, a lot of Chelsea fans were criticising graham potter last weekend for not slagging of the officials. A large amount of supporters, players, managers, etc clearly think its totally ok to abuse the match officials.

A lot of onus is Also on top flight referees to punish dissent more often, while last weekend was a step in the right direction for this,
I still noted a lot of dissent still going unpunished last night, in the merseyside derby.
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Re: the news today
« Reply #3 on: Tue 14 Feb 2023 11:31 »
Quote from: Failed Ref on Tue 14 Feb 2023 08:32
Reflects society in general, the unwillingness to clamp down on bad behaviour or antisocial conduct. Football can do more, but the underlying problem lies beyond football.

Strange how rugby seems to have avoided the underlying problem.

The problem starts at the top with the FA being subservient to the Premier League and impotent to take the drastic action necessary to ensure the same levels of behaviour and respect that other sports, not just rugby, enjoy. Their local gimmicky actions and campaigns at grassroots level are undermined by what everyone sees on television. The way to clean these augean stables is to start at the top. The huge businesses and massive vested financial interests mean this won't happen but at least recognise what the issue is and don't just say "it's society's fault".
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« Reply #4 on: Tue 14 Feb 2023 12:06 »
m'learned friend has hit the nail exactly. The FA is a craven body now, quite subservient to the financial bidding of the Premier League and while there is no desire to stamp out dissent at the top level ( and despite this weekend past I am not convinced that there is ) then it will continue to flourish and be replicated in the amateur game through copycat behaviour.

If I were starting out refereeing now and sadly I am not at all sure that I would be, I would choose my league very carefully and only officiate in one where proper codes of discipline were maintained. That always assumes there are still well run leagues like that any more; I hope there are.
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« Reply #5 on: Tue 14 Feb 2023 16:54 »
Quote from: Whistleblower on Tue 14 Feb 2023 12:06
m'learned friend has hit the nail exactly. The FA is a craven body now, quite subservient to the financial bidding of the Premier League and while there is no desire to stamp out dissent at the top level ( and despite this weekend past I am not convinced that there is ) then it will continue to flourish and be replicated in the amateur game through copycat behaviour.

If I were starting out refereeing now and sadly I am not at all sure that I would be, I would choose my league very carefully and only officiate in one where proper codes of discipline were maintained. That always assumes there are still well run leagues like that any more; I hope there are.

Leagues' hands are tied by often indolent County FAs.
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« Reply #6 on: Tue 14 Feb 2023 17:48 »
Quote from: nemesis on Tue 14 Feb 2023 16:54
Quote from: Whistleblower on Tue 14 Feb 2023 12:06
m'learned friend has hit the nail exactly. The FA is a craven body now, quite subservient to the financial bidding of the Premier League and while there is no desire to stamp out dissent at the top level ( and despite this weekend past I am not convinced that there is ) then it will continue to flourish and be replicated in the amateur game through copycat behaviour.

If I were starting out refereeing now and sadly I am not at all sure that I would be, I would choose my league very carefully and only officiate in one where proper codes of discipline were maintained. That always assumes there are still well run leagues like that any more; I hope there are.

Leagues' hands are tied by often indolent County FAs.


Sadly I can well believe this is so
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