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Author Topic: M Oliver Liverpool vs Man City  (Read 2588 times)

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Re: M Oliver Liverpool vs Man City
« Reply #30 on: Mon 11 Nov 2019 18:26 »
1 - I think there's enough to award handball against TAA
2 - this is irrelevant because it was created by an attacking handball, regardless of intent
3 - it's a tough call to say TAA created a goal scoring chance by handling in the build up, but I get that it doesn't sit right
4 - good luck selling to Anfield (or any ground) that you're disallowing the goal not to give a penalty but to give a defensive free kick
5 - it's a mess!! Not sure on the best way to resolve it. Quite frankly I hate it and would much rather watch the championship or FL games

Appreciate the way Oliver let the game flow but I think we need to see more action against the technical area staff. Guardiola and Klopp's conduct was embarrassing. I think dissent was largely decreasing in recent years but VAR has seen a massive spike, and laws need to be stronger to penalise it. I've been saying the same since the 2018 WC and all the gesturing.

Mac I concur with you totally. All these people saying it is an easy decision, or clearly a deliberate handball have never refereed a game before.
In terms of determining a handball offence this is probably the hardest decision I have ever seen. I have spoken to 18 people today - some refs some not - and at the moment it is 9 no penalty and 9 yes penalty.
Whichever decision was given I think can be supported.
Personally I don’t think it’s a penalty: if you have a look at the freeze frame as it hits Bernardo you can see TAA arm is already out poised to defend. One cannot defend with ones arms limp at ones side as you would have no mobility. But as has been pointed out there was sufficient amount of time for TAA to move his hand away from the ball.
What was more surprising is that aguero stops: if he did what all footballers are taught from the age of 6 which is play to the whistle he could have gathered the ball and had a shot at goal.
The unfortunate thing about the whole situation is that a goal was scored: had Liverpool not gone down the other end and scored there wouldn’t be half as much coverage.
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