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M DEAN - Newcastle v Wolves
« on: Sun 09 Dec 2018 19:56 »
I don't think it was the card sharks finest hour to say the least. The red had question marks on it, although Cann did flag for it also but Dean had his hand in his back pocket in a flash.

The elbow on Ayoze was terrible and should have been sanctioned with a red and a penalty. Understandably Benitez was less than complimentary in his post match remarks.

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Re: M DEAN - Newcastle v Wolves
« Reply #1 on: Sun 09 Dec 2018 20:22 »
The Yedlin red card was nailed on, he was through with a clear run to goal with very little chance of the covering defender getting across in time.

I don't think the elbow on Perez was in any way intentional, but he has swung an arm and caught him so I would certainly understand a penalty and red card.
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Re: M DEAN - Newcastle v Wolves
« Reply #2 on: Sun 09 Dec 2018 20:30 »
I agreed with the red card that was shown - there was one angle where I think you could see there was very little chance of the defender getting across.

At first, the Newcastle penalty appeal looked innocuous enough and the co-commentator was convinced there was nothing in it even after seeing multiple penalties. With the benefit of replays, I would see definitely a penalty and quite possibly a red card. I think VAR would have intervened in that one.

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Re: M DEAN - Newcastle v Wolves
« Reply #3 on: Sun 09 Dec 2018 21:00 »
Outstanding display from mr dean.
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Re: M DEAN - Newcastle v Wolves
« Reply #4 on: Sun 09 Dec 2018 23:12 »
No problem with the red card awarded. I can cope (to an extent) with incorrect decisions like the elbow (admittedly a judgement call which needed replay to be sure) as it wasn’t hugely obvious live.

The worst thing for me is that he refused to stop the game for the head injury to Perez. Ensuring player safety and well-being is absolutely paramount for a referee, particularly around head injuries, and I think it was absolutely appalling that he wouldn’t stop the game and even when the ball went dead was incredibly reluctant to go and assess the situation.
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Re: M DEAN - Newcastle v Wolves
« Reply #5 on: Mon 10 Dec 2018 11:04 »
Mark Clattenburg is of the opinion that Dean got the big calls right and IMHO I felt so too. This business about high elbows is generally confusing - players naturally jumping for the ball do have their hands and elbows up high and inevitably someone will get clattered. Provided there is no intent I guess it is play on as the laws are written but it is potentially dangerous but what is the answer? You cannot penalise someone based on outcome unless you go down the rugby union route and that would be open to all sorts of problems regarding interpretation. Top marks to the two guests in the Sky studio for their balanced comments.

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Re: M DEAN - Newcastle v Wolves
« Reply #6 on: Mon 10 Dec 2018 12:29 »
No problem with the red card awarded. I can cope (to an extent) with incorrect decisions like the elbow (admittedly a judgement call which needed replay to be sure) as it wasn’t hugely obvious live.

The worst thing for me is that he refused to stop the game for the head injury to Perez. Ensuring player safety and well-being is absolutely paramount for a referee, particularly around head injuries, and I think it was absolutely appalling that he wouldn’t stop the game and even when the ball went dead was incredibly reluctant to go and assess the situation.

Until players stop pretending they are hurt when they are not, I have not the slightest sympathy. An occupational hazard of the boys crying wolf.
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Re: M DEAN - Newcastle v Wolves
« Reply #7 on: Mon 10 Dec 2018 17:43 »
Agree, and seemingly Mike Dean said afterwards that he thought the ball had hit him in the face rather than elbow, so therefore presumably assumed he was faking it.

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Re: M DEAN - Newcastle v Wolves
« Reply #8 on: Tue 11 Dec 2018 00:10 »
Outstanding display from mr dean.

Seemingly Dermot Galalgehr agrees with you - he said it was a high quality performance with all big decisions correct. :)
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Re: M DEAN - Newcastle v Wolves
« Reply #9 on: Wed 12 Dec 2018 00:22 »
Outstanding display from mr dean.

Seemingly Dermot Galalgehr agrees with you - he said it was a high quality performance with all big decisions correct. :)
Some might have gleaned from some of my posts that I’m not a fan , I do however believe in giving credit where it’s due.
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Re: M DEAN - Newcastle v Wolves
« Reply #10 on: Wed 12 Dec 2018 07:53 »
Outstanding display from mr dean.

Seemingly Dermot Galalgehr agrees with you - he said it was a high quality performance with all big decisions correct. :)
Some might have gleaned from some of my posts that I’m not a fan , I do however believe in giving credit where it’s due.

Some of us noticed, without you having to highlight it.
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Re: M DEAN - Newcastle v Wolves
« Reply #11 on: Wed 12 Dec 2018 11:32 »
Outstanding display from mr dean.

Seemingly Dermot Galalgehr agrees with you - he said it was a high quality performance with all big decisions correct. :)
Some might have gleaned from some of my posts that I’m not a fan , I do however believe in giving credit where it’s due.

Some of us noticed, without you having to highlight it.

Some of you had also noticed and took the time to private message me to ask me if Nick was being sarcastic etc...
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Re: M DEAN - Newcastle v Wolves
« Reply #12 on: Wed 12 Dec 2018 18:36 »
Damned if I do damned if I don’t !
At least I post honestly based on what I see regardless of other people’s agendas regarding my posts.