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Author Topic: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal  (Read 1094 times)

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M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 20:31 »
Interesting scenario.

Fred fouls his own goalkeeper, play still carrying on, Arsenal shoot and score with De Gea on the floor and Atkinson then blows up.

Whistle clearly goes after the ball enters the net so has to be goal.

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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #1 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 20:41 »
Very odd. Not sure what the Man Utd players expect to achieve here?

As soon as De Gea goes down, the ‘perfect’ outcome is what? A drop ball to the goalkeeper during an Arsenal attack because their own player has made fairly minor accidental contact with the goalkeeper?

Atkinson doesn’t have a chance to do anything differently. The fault is Man Utd’s, not the referee here.

If there was a grave injustice, it’s the type of event you expect an opposition goal to be uncontested, but it’s just not going to happen here. Unfortunate.

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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #2 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 20:42 »
Atkinson never sees GK as ball is played out towards him and Smith-Rowe almost shoots round him. No whistle prior to entering goal, had to give it.
Disappointed if Richard West has not given Atkinson any information.

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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #3 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 20:45 »
If there was a grave injustice, it’s the type of event you expect an opposition goal to be uncontested, but it’s just not going to happen here. Unfortunate.

We are talking about Arsenal here though. They have previous on not doing the sporting thing

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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #4 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 20:46 »
Atkinson never sees GK as ball is played out towards him and Smith-Rowe almost shoots round him. No whistle prior to entering goal, had to give it.
Disappointed if Richard West has not given Atkinson any information.

We can’t see for certain if West was following him or the line considering the ball was about to be pinged backed into the box.

I would assume he would have been looking along the defensive line and not De Gea.


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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #5 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 20:48 »
West was in line wit Fred, who was the 2nd last defender

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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #6 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 20:49 »
If there was a grave injustice, it’s the type of event you expect an opposition goal to be uncontested, but it’s just not going to happen here. Unfortunate.

We are talking about Arsenal here though. They have previous on not doing the sporting thing

What are you on about? nobody did anything unsporting.

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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #7 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 20:52 »
If there was a grave injustice, it’s the type of event you expect an opposition goal to be uncontested, but it’s just not going to happen here. Unfortunate.

We are talking about Arsenal here though. They have previous on not doing the sporting thing

What are you on about? nobody did anything unsporting.

I'll rephrase. Not upholding the spirit of the game

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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #8 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 21:07 »
If there was a grave injustice, it’s the type of event you expect an opposition goal to be uncontested, but it’s just not going to happen here. Unfortunate.

We are talking about Arsenal here though. They have previous on not doing the sporting thing

What are you on about? nobody did anything unsporting.

I'll rephrase. Not upholding the spirit of the game

What were they supposed to do exactly, its not like they fouled him or anything. theres nothing united, arsenal or atkinson couldve done really. he was up about a minute later anyway, so how bad was it actually.
« Last Edit: Thu 02 Dec 2021 21:10 by Hertsref123 »
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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #9 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 21:38 »
If there was a grave injustice, it’s the type of event you expect an opposition goal to be uncontested, but it’s just not going to happen here. Unfortunate.

We are talking about Arsenal here though. They have previous on not doing the sporting thing

What are you on about? nobody did anything unsporting.

I'll rephrase. Not upholding the spirit of the game

And of course Utd always do ……….
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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #10 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 21:46 »
I don’t understand how Atkinson hasn’t give that on the field as a penalty.
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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #11 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 21:55 »
Yep that is a stonewall penalty for me. I was surprised he didn't see it live.
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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #12 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 21:56 »
I don’t understand how Atkinson hasn’t give that on the field as a penalty.

Yep very poor. One of the most clearest penalties you’ll see!
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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #13 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 22:22 »
If there was a grave injustice, it’s the type of event you expect an opposition goal to be uncontested, but it’s just not going to happen here. Unfortunate.

We are talking about Arsenal here though. They have previous on not doing the sporting thing
De Gea has previous, claiming Van Dijk fouled him and getting a perfectly good goal disallowed at Anfield. I read that he also did the same for Spain against England but I don’t remember that.

Atkinson applied the Laws and the decision was correct.
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Re: M ATKINSON - Man U v Arsenal
« Reply #14 on: Thu 02 Dec 2021 22:31 »
Thought Atkinson was spot on with the arsenal opening goal . Can understand Atkinson not giving the Utd penalty in real time as the ball didn’t really move much so from Atkinsons angle which was from behind it looked like the arsenal player got the ball first .

Overall a typical Atkinson performance let the game flow and kept cards in his pocket I think only mctominay was booked and that was a nailed on YC