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M ATKINSON - Aston Villa v Chelsea
« on: Sun 26 Dec 2021 19:23 »
Excuse my ignorance but why wasn’t Konsa sent off for DOGSO?

I thought the regulation stated a genuine attempt for the ball resulted in a yellow card?

He was no where near the ball and brought down Lukaku in a cynical fashion and last man?

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Re: M ATKINSON - Aston Villa v Chelsea
« Reply #1 on: Sun 26 Dec 2021 21:59 »
The ball was in playing distance. The defender jumped in low to try and get the ball but brought the attacker down. There could be an argument that the defender knew exactly what he was doing but you cannot catagorically say he didn't try and get the ball.  A good decision.

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Re: M ATKINSON - Aston Villa v Chelsea
« Reply #2 on: Sun 26 Dec 2021 22:20 »
The fact that you are both right shows the problem mr Atkinson had . Referees call IMO

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Re: M ATKINSON - Aston Villa v Chelsea
« Reply #3 on: Mon 27 Dec 2021 10:53 »
It could be argued that some referees are using this grey area as a means of avoiding their responsibilities.  DOGSO was originally brought in to eliminate the "professional foul" and because it was generally accepted that we wanted to see more goals and goal opportunities than foul challenges.  The object of the game, after all, is to score goals.

The art of defending is knowing when (and when not to) make a challenge.  Reducing the sanction for what is deemed to be a "genuine attempt to play the ball" was predicted by some to be a mistake that would lead to more foul challenges and more areas of doubt and confusion.  And so it have proved to be.  It is also giving referees the opportunity to hide behind the "genuine attempt to play the ball" clause to avoid making the correct decision in law.

This was such a case yesterday and I have seen others recently (although the Christmas fog means I cannot cite the actual games).  I suspect people will say that I am looking for reasons to send player off and that a good referee does exactly the opposite.   While that is a commendable attribute, the Laws of the game to not often permit this and the game would be better served if the Laws were applied as written. 

If you look at how Rugby Union is changing is Laws to reduce the danger to players you will see an example of how a governing body has set out what it wants to do maintained a steadfast approach in the face of a significant increase in red and yellow cards in high profile games.  The same cannot be said of Football.
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Re: M ATKINSON - Aston Villa v Chelsea
« Reply #4 on: Mon 27 Dec 2021 13:31 »
I think the operating principle here appears to be that if it’s a tackle with the legs it’s a DOGSO yellow and if it’s a tackle with the arm/body it’s a DOGSO red. Genuine attempt to play the ball seems to applied in all cases where the foul is made with the legs other than a very obvious clip/kick or, as we saw last season with Arsenal, an accidental clash of legs.