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Top spot from Simon Hooper to give West Ham a penalty. Decent performance from Kevin Friend despite my anger towards him midweek...

It was the case and may still be that you cannot play advantage for a sending off offence e.g. second yellow unless there is a clear goal scoring opportunity. Therefore the scenario you describe is unlikely. I did not see the game but I gather it was a clear goal scoring opportunity. Like he scored.

I have not seen the game so apologies if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick but could somebody clear something up for me please. If Dawson was shown a second yellow after the referee had played advantage, I was under the impression a second yellow couldn't be shown.
I'm going off an incident in the Cardiff v Swansea game before Christmas and the referee in that game (John Brooks) said he couldn't show a second yellow because he had played advantage. I've copied the link from that game with what Brooks had told Neil Harris.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/controversial-cardiff-city-v-swansea-19448608.amp

I think Hooper has been the best VAR this season

Quote from: Jackinthebox on Sat 17 Apr 2021 23:25

I have not seen the game so apologies if I'm getting the wrong end of the stick but could somebody clear something up for me please. If Dawson was shown a second yellow after the referee had played advantage, I was under the impression a second yellow couldn't be shown.
I'm going off an incident in the Cardiff v Swansea game before Christmas and the referee in that game (John Brooks) said he couldn't show a second yellow because he had played advantage. I've copied the link from that game with what Brooks had told Neil Harris.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/controversial-cardiff-city-v-swansea-19448608.amp

If advantage was played for an offence that prevented a promising attack the referee cannot go back and caution.  If it was for any other offence, which in all likelihood is going to be a reckless challenge, the caution can still be issued after advantage.  Dawson's challenge was more than reckless, so it was absolutely right go back and send off.

It was very much a reckless challenge and almost a carbon copy of his first caution.  (As in:  "Those who do not learn the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them").

It was also a very brave piece of refereeing.  You could see (from the reply) the whistle went to his mouth and he was fighting the urge to blow because he know it was a sending off - but he managed to hold off long enough for the advantage to develop and for a goal to ensue.  Although the goal itself was more down to the comic West Ham defending - but Friend allowed play to develop and for the comedy to play out.

He'll be very pleased watching that back.  As will the EFL referee (apologies - I cannot remember the game or the referee) who appears to have played two advantages that led to goals yesterday.  I was half-watching Goals on Sunday and just saw the (double handed) and very enthusiastic advantage signal as both goals hit the back of the net.  Isn't it strange that advantages that lead to goals are generally signalled with gusto and for some time?  Not quite Mike Reed with his fist pump, but getting there!

Who appears to have joined the growing plethera of bearded referees. Not since says of Dilkes and Harris has so much dacial hair been seen. Mssrs Johnson, Drysdale and more latrerly Backhouse amongst those with facial hair