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Re: J MOSS - EFL final
« Reply #15 on: Mon 25 Feb 2019 15:12 »
Moss was calm and composed throughout, and was a good performance.

In regards of the Halliday flagging, in my opinion, he was right to flag despite the tightness and this should be the case with VAR. VAR should only be used to overrule a decision rather than make that decision, therefore the Linesman should flag if he believes a player is offside and it should be the job of VAR to overrule that decision if it is incorrect. 
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Re: J MOSS - EFL final
« Reply #16 on: Mon 25 Feb 2019 15:33 »
Quote from: MichaelRef on Mon 25 Feb 2019 15:12
Moss was calm and composed throughout, and was a good performance.

In regards of the Halliday flagging, in my opinion, he was right to flag despite the tightness and this should be the case with VAR. VAR should only be used to overrule a decision rather than make that decision, therefore the Linesman should flag if he believes a player is offside and it should be the job of VAR to overrule that decision if it is incorrect.

Sorry that makes no sense.

Assistant flags erroneously, referee blows and play stops. How do you overrule that incorrect decision with VAR?
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Re: J MOSS - EFL final
« Reply #17 on: Mon 25 Feb 2019 16:06 »
Quote from: nemesis on Mon 25 Feb 2019 15:33
Quote from: MichaelRef on Mon 25 Feb 2019 15:12
Moss was calm and composed throughout, and was a good performance.

In regards of the Halliday flagging, in my opinion, he was right to flag despite the tightness and this should be the case with VAR. VAR should only be used to overrule a decision rather than make that decision, therefore the Linesman should flag if he believes a player is offside and it should be the job of VAR to overrule that decision if it is incorrect.

Sorry that makes no sense.

Assistant flags erroneously, referee blows and play stops. How do you overrule that incorrect decision with VAR?

Indeed - if Hazard scores then I've no problem with the assistant raising the flag to indicate that he believes it is offside and VAR can then review to check.

The problem is that it's not possible to overrule if the decision has led to the game being stopped so in tight calls where there is a strong likelihood of a goal being scored, the assistant should delay the flag or at least the referee should delay the whistle.
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Re: J MOSS - EFL final
« Reply #18 on: Mon 25 Feb 2019 18:15 »
Should they only delay the flag when the decision is tight?
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Re: J MOSS - EFL final
« Reply #19 on: Mon 25 Feb 2019 19:14 »
I've only seen one still image of the offside call and yet again we have the AR ahead of play (albeit not as bad as in the West Ham game) so he is not getting the correct angle of vision straight across the pitch.
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Re: J MOSS - EFL final
« Reply #20 on: Mon 25 Feb 2019 19:17 »
Quote from: TheThingFromLewes on Mon 25 Feb 2019 13:13
Quote from: TVOS on Sun 24 Feb 2019 19:59
Any observations on Hazard being flagged offside by Andy Halliday towards the end of 90 minutes? It seemed erroneous and against VAR protocol.

Here lies the problem and it will continue. Only certain games next season will have VAR. I can see when the SG1 are in the FL without VAR that they will either continue to flag early, against VAR protocol, or they won't flag at all and we will get more controversial offside shouts.

I can really see the FL sides suffering as it will be difficult to switch between the two ways of doing things.

The only other option is that no SG1 go into the FL.

Surely if there is no VAR involved in these games then the protocol will be to flag early as at present.
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Re: J MOSS - EFL final
« Reply #21 on: Mon 25 Feb 2019 20:02 »
Got back from OT to see the 2nd half and extra time and from what I saw, Jon Moss put in a decent performance.  And he seemed to handle the goalkeeper non-substitution incident very calmly.
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Re: J MOSS - EFL final
« Reply #22 on: Mon 25 Feb 2019 20:40 »
Quote from: MichaelRef on Mon 25 Feb 2019 15:12
Moss was calm and composed throughout, and was a good performance.

In regards of the Halliday flagging, in my opinion, he was right to flag despite the tightness and this should be the case with VAR. VAR should only be used to overrule a decision rather than make that decision, therefore the Linesman should flag if he believes a player is offside and it should be the job of VAR to overrule that decision if it is incorrect.

…. which goes against the principles of the whole thing!
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