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J BROOKS: LIVERPOOL V VILLA
« on: Sat 20 May 2023 15:27 »
That is an absolutely brilliant on field call to give Villa a penalty. My whole house watching and the whole of Anfield thought Konate won the ball but he hadn't. Great work!

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« Reply #1 on: Sat 20 May 2023 15:56 »
Earth calling Tony in VAR???? How was that not SFP for Mings, or a penalty for Henderson?

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« Reply #2 on: Sat 20 May 2023 15:57 »
Excellent decision on the penalty, which he only spotted because he made a dynamic sprint into a wide position to get a good view.

From then on he spent the rest of the game making every attempt to annoy absolutely everyone in the ground. First 10 minutes everything was a free kick then all of a sudden nothing was. Looked like a missed RC for Mings for a dangerous and also last man tackle. Seen penalties given for the one waved away on henderson.

The stream I am on, showed the VAR officials during the check, Wade Smith was scrolling through pages of a book, surely not the laws?

Brooks is lucky Klopp isn't on the touchline

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« Reply #3 on: Sat 20 May 2023 16:22 »
Brooks called to the monitor for an offside.

By law its offside. But dear me that really should not be offside. How can you head it backwards, it hit a defender and then you get called offside. It's broken.
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« Reply #4 on: Sat 20 May 2023 16:41 »
[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=4929.msg64407#msg64407

From then on he spent the rest of the game making every attempt to annoy absolutely everyone in the ground. First 10 minutes everything was a free kick then all of a sudden nothing was. Looked like a missed RC for Mings for a dangerous and also last man tackle. Seen penalties given for the one waved away on henderson.

The stream I am on, showed the VAR officials during the check, Wade Smith was scrolling through pages of a book, surely not the laws?

Brooks is lucky Klopp isn't on the touchline
[/quote]

Otherwise known as doing your job correctly however unfortunately annoying people in the process
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« Reply #5 on: Sat 20 May 2023 16:49 »
[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=4929.msg64407#msg64407

From then on he spent the rest of the game making every attempt to annoy absolutely everyone in the ground. First 10 minutes everything was a free kick then all of a sudden nothing was. Looked like a missed RC for Mings for a dangerous and also last man tackle. Seen penalties given for the one waved away on henderson.

The stream I am on, showed the VAR officials during the check, Wade Smith was scrolling through pages of a book, surely not the laws?

Brooks is lucky Klopp isn't on the touchline

Otherwise known as doing your job correctly however unfortunately annoying people in the process
[/quote]

"Doing your job"

Does that include missing yellow cards, clear foul play and being completely inconsistent in whats a foul and what isn't

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« Reply #6 on: Sat 20 May 2023 17:17 »
I agree that it was a missed red card for SFP for Mings and also a penalty that could've been awarded even though I like it not being given. The OFR for offside from Harrington was very good in a situation where it's hard to see live what is actually going on. You can always discuss whether or not the law is good but ultimately Van Dijk get an advantage of being in an offside position. I really like him going down hard on the timewasting from Villa, giving them four yellow cards for it and also adding 10 minutes at the end. I think John Brooks has very good potential and can be reliable referee for many years to come
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« Reply #7 on: Sat 20 May 2023 17:44 »
[quote author=jacksamuel21 link=topic=4929.msg64407#msg64407

From then on he spent the rest of the game making every attempt to annoy absolutely everyone in the ground. First 10 minutes everything was a free kick then all of a sudden nothing was. Looked like a missed RC for Mings for a dangerous and also last man tackle. Seen penalties given for the one waved away on henderson.

The stream I am on, showed the VAR officials during the check, Wade Smith was scrolling through pages of a book, surely not the laws?

Brooks is lucky Klopp isn't on the touchline

Otherwise known as doing your job correctly however unfortunately annoying people in the process

"Doing your job"

Does that include missing yellow cards, clear foul play and being completely inconsistent in whats a foul and what isn't
[/quote]

Oh come on stop it. He was fine today. Your being swayed by the fans who got caught up in the moment
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Re: J BROOKS: LIVERPOOL V VILLA
« Reply #8 on: Sat 20 May 2023 18:19 »
That is an absolutely brilliant on field call to give Villa a penalty. My whole house watching and the whole of Anfield thought Konate won the ball but he hadn't. Great work!
In my seat at Anfield I and everybody around me knew it was a penalty and our only complaint was Konateís poor positioning which caused him to make a rash challenge.

When did referees start going to the monitor to check offsides? I must have missed that update.

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« Reply #9 on: Sat 20 May 2023 18:23 »
That is an absolutely brilliant on field call to give Villa a penalty. My whole house watching and the whole of Anfield thought Konate won the ball but he hadn't. Great work!
In my seat at Anfield I and everybody around me knew it was a penalty and our only complaint was Konateís poor positioning which caused him to make a rash challenge.

When did referees start going to the monitor to check offsides? I must have missed that update.

When it isn't black and white and there has to be a subjective decision made as to whether the player had interfered with play or an opponent.  Has happened a few times.
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« Reply #10 on: Sat 20 May 2023 18:32 »
That is an absolutely brilliant on field call to give Villa a penalty. My whole house watching and the whole of Anfield thought Konate won the ball but he hadn't. Great work!
In my seat at Anfield I and everybody around me knew it was a penalty and our only complaint was Konateís poor positioning which caused him to make a rash challenge.

When did referees start going to the monitor to check offsides? I must have missed that update.

When it isn't black and white and there has to be a subjective decision made as to whether the player had interfered with play or an opponent.  Has happened a few times.

Or, as seemingly was the case here, whether a defender has deflected the ball or made a deliberate play.
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« Reply #11 on: Sat 20 May 2023 18:37 »
That is an absolutely brilliant on field call to give Villa a penalty. My whole house watching and the whole of Anfield thought Konate won the ball but he hadn't. Great work!
In my seat at Anfield I and everybody around me knew it was a penalty and our only complaint was Konateís poor positioning which caused him to make a rash challenge.

When did referees start going to the monitor to check offsides? I must have missed that update.

When it isn't black and white and there has to be a subjective decision made as to whether the player had interfered with play or an opponent.  Has happened a few times.
As I was at the game Iíll see what the television shows me. Iíd be interested to see what excuse was concocted for the SFP by Mings.

I hope Mr. Webb is going to instruct his charges to deal with timewasting properly as well. Not quite as bad as Newcastle but atrocious nonetheless. The Villa goalkeeper was wasting time from the start, why wait 76 minutes to apply Law? The blizzard of late yellows for Villa was pointless-do it earlier.

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« Reply #12 on: Sat 20 May 2023 19:41 »
Liverpool vs Villa has seen some dreadful referee performances in the last few seasons.

Moss @Villa Park Last Season
Attwell @Anfield Last Year
Atkinson and Tierney both had poor performances in 2020 too

Its one of those games like Spurs vs Chelsea and Liverpool vs Spurs.


I just don't see how Konsa didn't deliberately play it, he clearly moves his leg






That is an absolutely brilliant on field call to give Villa a penalty. My whole house watching and the whole of Anfield thought Konate won the ball but he hadn't. Great work!
In my seat at Anfield I and everybody around me knew it was a penalty and our only complaint was Konateís poor positioning which caused him to make a rash challenge.

When did referees start going to the monitor to check offsides? I must have missed that update.

When it isn't black and white and there has to be a subjective decision made as to whether the player had interfered with play or an opponent.  Has happened a few times.
As I was at the game Iíll see what the television shows me. Iíd be interested to see what excuse was concocted for the SFP by Mings.

I hope Mr. Webb is going to instruct his charges to deal with timewasting properly as well. Not quite as bad as Newcastle but atrocious nonetheless. The Villa goalkeeper was wasting time from the start, why wait 76 minutes to apply Law? The blizzard of late yellows for Villa was pointless-do it earlier.

They Yellow Card for Martinez was pointless. He was never going to get a second yellow no longer how much time he took.
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Re: J BROOKS: LIVERPOOL V VILLA
« Reply #13 on: Sat 20 May 2023 20:15 »
Liverpool vs Villa has seen some dreadful referee performances in the last few seasons.

Moss @Villa Park Last Season
Attwell @Anfield Last Year
Atkinson and Tierney both had poor performances in 2020 too

Its one of those games like Spurs vs Chelsea and Liverpool vs Spurs.


I just don't see how Konsa didn't deliberately play it, he clearly moves his leg






That is an absolutely brilliant on field call to give Villa a penalty. My whole house watching and the whole of Anfield thought Konate won the ball but he hadn't. Great work!
In my seat at Anfield I and everybody around me knew it was a penalty and our only complaint was Konateís poor positioning which caused him to make a rash challenge.

When did referees start going to the monitor to check offsides? I must have missed that update.

When it isn't black and white and there has to be a subjective decision made as to whether the player had interfered with play or an opponent.  Has happened a few times.
As I was at the game Iíll see what the television shows me. Iíd be interested to see what excuse was concocted for the SFP by Mings.

I hope Mr. Webb is going to instruct his charges to deal with timewasting properly as well. Not quite as bad as Newcastle but atrocious nonetheless. The Villa goalkeeper was wasting time from the start, why wait 76 minutes to apply Law? The blizzard of late yellows for Villa was pointless-do it earlier.

They Yellow Card for Martinez was pointless. He was never going to get a second yellow no longer how much time he took.

Heíd still have been criticised for not booking him though.
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Re: J BROOKS: LIVERPOOL V VILLA
« Reply #14 on: Sat 20 May 2023 22:31 »
Having watched brief highlights Brooks made a brilliant decision to give Villa a penalty in the first half, great positioning.
I was surprised Mings didnt see red for his challenge on Gakpo, can only think lack of force in the challenge was the team ref reasoning.
Having watched Brooks referee recently, he like many referees nowadays tend to let quite a bit go and allow the game to flow.
Brooks has been getting good appointments of recent and well deserved.
As for the time wasting and game management aspects which have crept in to the Villa game plan since Emery took over, i am not in favour of.
Martinez must be the most cautioned player for time wasting this season in the premier league. Perhaps Brooks should have started cautioning earlier for delaying restarts as Anthony Taylor did towards the end of the first half in the Nottm F v Arsenal game.
I guess red tinted glasses maybe a reason for blaming team ref for Liverpool not winning today.
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