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FIFA List Appointments 2022
« on: Thu 23 Dec 2021 18:46 »
I see that it has been announced that Darren England has been given the “white shield” for 2022.

Any other announcements across Europe or Globally?

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« Reply #1 on: Thu 23 Dec 2021 20:15 »
Excellent news. Really pleased for Darren. Onwards and upwards!
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« Reply #2 on: Thu 23 Dec 2021 20:17 »
Well done to him though I have a modicum of regret for Rob Jones.

England therefore joins the ranks of those who have worn a FIFA badge as both an AR and a Referee. I guess that can't happen much these days now that the two branches of officiating have a clear division quite early on though I expect there are some well known people from the past. Off the top of my head I can only think of Steve Bennett and possibly Graham Barber.
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Re: FIFA List Appointments 2022
« Reply #3 on: Thu 23 Dec 2021 20:29 »
Who was Darren England AR to?

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« Reply #4 on: Thu 23 Dec 2021 21:01 »
Well done to him though I have a modicum of regret for Rob Jones.

England therefore joins the ranks of those who have worn a FIFA badge as both an AR and a Referee. I guess that can't happen much these days now that the two branches of officiating have a clear division quite early on though I expect there are some well known people from the past. Off the top of my head I can only think of Steve Bennett and possibly Graham Barber.

Unfortunately I think Jones could miss out on a badge as the list is now full and there is only Pawson IIRC whom is next in line for the de badging so to speak.

Jones could be the next Alan Wiley and not get a badge. Wiley was a superb official and should have had one.
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Re: FIFA List Appointments 2022
« Reply #5 on: Thu 23 Dec 2021 21:08 »
Matt Messias also got both.

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« Reply #6 on: Thu 23 Dec 2021 22:47 »
Well done to him though I have a modicum of regret for Rob Jones.

England therefore joins the ranks of those who have worn a FIFA badge as both an AR and a Referee. I guess that can't happen much these days now that the two branches of officiating have a clear division quite early on though I expect there are some well known people from the past. Off the top of my head I can only think of Steve Bennett and possibly Graham Barber.

Unfortunately I think Jones could miss out on a badge as the list is now full and there is only Pawson IIRC whom is next in line for the de badging so to speak.

Jones could be the next Alan Wiley and not get a badge. Wiley was a superb official and should have had one.


I think you are right on both counts. Alan Wiley was certainly a very fine referee and heaps better than some who have sported FIFA badges.

A friend, who is now an Observer, rates Darren England very highly and would say he just shades Rob Jones though both, so my friend avers, are better than Coote, and A Madley.  Opinions, opinions !

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« Reply #7 on: Thu 23 Dec 2021 23:45 »
Congrats to Darren England, will be amusing seeing England (England) on appointments.

It now means all English referee's are between the ages of 36 & 43, Anthony Taylor being the oldest english referee on the FIFA list

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« Reply #8 on: Fri 24 Dec 2021 06:54 »
Under the old retirement age system Anthony Taylor would have been the next referee off the list then followed by Craig Pawson. As Taylor is amongst the elite I'm sure that he will have the chance to have more years remaning on the list than Pawson.

Well done to him though I have a modicum of regret for Rob Jones.

England therefore joins the ranks of those who have worn a FIFA badge as both an AR and a Referee. I guess that can't happen much these days now that the two branches of officiating have a clear division quite early on though I expect there are some well known people from the past. Off the top of my head I can only think of Steve Bennett and possibly Graham Barber.

I believe that John Brooks has the last realistic opportunity of picking up both FIFA badges.  Age remains on his side.

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« Reply #9 on: Fri 24 Dec 2021 14:11 »
Under the old retirement age system Anthony Taylor would have been the next referee off the list then followed by Craig Pawson. As Taylor is amongst the elite I'm sure that he will have the chance to have more years remaning on the list than Pawson.

Well done to him though I have a modicum of regret for Rob Jones.

England therefore joins the ranks of those who have worn a FIFA badge as both an AR and a Referee. I guess that can't happen much these days now that the two branches of officiating have a clear division quite early on though I expect there are some well known people from the past. Off the top of my head I can only think of Steve Bennett and possibly Graham Barber.

I believe that John Brooks has the last realistic opportunity of picking up both FIFA badges.  Age remains on his side.

As someone unfamiliar with the English system, how is it possible to get both? Don’t you ‘specialise’ at a level far below getting a FIFA badge making a second run up the ladder impossible? (If purely out of time available alone)

Do some referees drop back down the pyramid to become ARs and make their way back up again?

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« Reply #10 on: Fri 24 Dec 2021 16:33 »
Affy that is certainly the case now, hence that John Brooks is probably the last to have a chance of managing it.

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« Reply #11 on: Fri 24 Dec 2021 18:14 »
Under the old retirement age system Anthony Taylor would have been the next referee off the list then followed by Craig Pawson. As Taylor is amongst the elite I'm sure that he will have the chance to have more years remaning on the list than Pawson.

Well done to him though I have a modicum of regret for Rob Jones.

England therefore joins the ranks of those who have worn a FIFA badge as both an AR and a Referee. I guess that can't happen much these days now that the two branches of officiating have a clear division quite early on though I expect there are some well known people from the past. Off the top of my head I can only think of Steve Bennett and possibly Graham Barber.

I believe that John Brooks has the last realistic opportunity of picking up both FIFA badges.  Age remains on his side.

As someone unfamiliar with the English system, how is it possible to get both? Don’t you ‘specialise’ at a level far below getting a FIFA badge making a second run up the ladder impossible? (If purely out of time available alone)

Do some referees drop back down the pyramid to become ARs and make their way back up again?

Yes, so John Brooks was an AR in the EPL from 2012 when he was only 22, but at the same time was also refereeing at either L3, L2B or L2A.  He then chose specialist refereeing, which meant he stopped doing any games as AR and concentrated on refereeing.

It can't happen now as these days once you have been at L3 for three years you have to choose either refereeing or lining.  Which I think makes it impossible that someone will get to FIFA as an assistant and then do it later as a referee, as even if you are promoted in each of those three years so will only get as far as the EFL AR list and can't get FIFA from there.

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« Reply #12 on: Fri 24 Dec 2021 21:28 »
I’m seeing on social media that Lisa Benn has been promoted to the womens FIFA list for 2022. Hugely well deserved and good luck to her going forward.
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« Reply #13 on: Fri 24 Dec 2021 22:18 »
Affy that is certainly the case now, hence that John Brooks is probably the last to have a chance of managing it.

Michael Salisbury? Or is age against him?

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« Reply #14 on: Sun 26 Dec 2021 10:35 »
Under the old retirement age system Anthony Taylor would have been the next referee off the list then followed by Craig Pawson. As Taylor is amongst the elite I'm sure that he will have the chance to have more years remaning on the list than Pawson.

Well done to him though I have a modicum of regret for Rob Jones.

England therefore joins the ranks of those who have worn a FIFA badge as both an AR and a Referee. I guess that can't happen much these days now that the two branches of officiating have a clear division quite early on though I expect there are some well known people from the past. Off the top of my head I can only think of Steve Bennett and possibly Graham Barber.

I believe that John Brooks has the last realistic opportunity of picking up both FIFA badges.  Age remains on his side.

As someone unfamiliar with the English system, how is it possible to get both? Don’t you ‘specialise’ at a level far below getting a FIFA badge making a second run up the ladder impossible? (If purely out of time available alone)

Do some referees drop back down the pyramid to become ARs and make their way back up again?

Yes, so John Brooks was an AR in the EPL from 2012 when he was only 22, but at the same time was also refereeing at either L3, L2B or L2A.  He then chose specialist refereeing, which meant he stopped doing any games as AR and concentrated on refereeing.

It can't happen now as these days once you have been at L3 for three years you have to choose either refereeing or lining.  Which I think makes it impossible that someone will get to FIFA as an assistant and then do it later as a referee, as even if you are promoted in each of those three years so will only get as far as the EFL AR list and can't get FIFA from there.

EPL at 22, and FIFA to follow? Wow. That is quite incredible. He must have had some belief in his refereeing ability to give that up, and go the referee track.

Even with fast tracking, that seems absurdly quick. Very impressive.