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Quote from: Wollongong Ref on Thu 16 Jun 2022 04:33

A clear shot at me BMB? The behaviour of the English fans is equally appalling and certainly two wrongs do not make a right. Just 2 wrongs

No actually it was a more general observation that so many were so quick to jump up and down and shout how disgraceful ALL Hungarians are, they should be banned for life yadda yadda - several threads across the forum about it, headlines in all the papers about it, pundits yapping on non stop about it, despite it being a minority of the fans that let us down when we play England - it doesn't happen in other games except v Romania which is a whole different kettle of fish & based on centuries of bad blood between the 2 nations. Then you get England v Germany - England fans arrested for doing nazi salutes, England fans thrown out of bars for singing anti German songs, England fans arrested for being drunk and disorderly and fighting, England fans arrested for chanting nazis at any German person they saw - several incidences of utterly disgraceful behaviour and where is the same energy in condemning that? There was none, yet 'but the Hungarians are the real problem'... England fans booing a national anthem and chanting the whole way through, silence yet again - no condemnation for that. England fans & media ironically calling Hungarians racist, yet there are more complaints and arrests for racist behaviour in England in a week than there is in Hungary across a year. One of the classic media headlines after this game England 0 Racists 4 and the picture accompanying it was Loďc Négo leading the celebrations, he's a black man, born in Paris and of Guadeloupean descent who is so 'appalled' by the racism in Hungary that he applied for Hungarian citizenship as soon as he had lived there for 5 years and now proudly represents Hungary at international level - he's absolutely loved in Hungary. No mention in that report of the English fans behaviour. Still I suppose it's ok as it wasn't only our national anthem they disrespected as they also sang 'no surrender' during God save the queen! Yet apparently we are the only ones with a problem!  We do have some appalling individuals in our fanbase, we don't deny that & the sooner the MLSZ grow a pair and ban the Carpathian brigade the better.

I think one big difference though is it is very rare to see racism inside an English stadium now. 

Quote from: TVOS on Fri 17 Jun 2022 11:34

When you say there are more complaints and arrests in England than Hungary, is that percentage wise?

Yes