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Re: Drinks Breaks !
« Reply #15 on: Tue 23 Jun 2020 09:37 »
Quote from: RCG on Mon 22 Jun 2020 20:10
The classic was France vs Wales - once clock reaches 80:00 it is not stopped again. Infringements ensure the game continues so that no1 can foul to finish a game. The French scored somewhere around minute 96.
That's the sort of thing I had in mind when I used the word 'idiotic!'
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« Reply #16 on: Tue 23 Jun 2020 11:26 »
On drinks breaks more generally, I feel they are being abused.  They are being used as tactical timeouts not re-hydration breaks.  I rather suspect this is the thin end of the wedge.  Coaches will be keen to continue with them, the TV companies will be delighted at the possibility of shoehorning a couple of extra advertisements in per half and IFAB will eventually cave in.

And why are the players and coaches not being properly policed during these breaks.  There are coaches on the pitch and players off it.  Change the Laws or enforce them.
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Re: Drinks Breaks !
« Reply #17 on: Tue 23 Jun 2020 11:56 »
Quote from: RCG on Mon 22 Jun 2020 20:10
The classic was France vs Wales - once clock reaches 80:00 it is not stopped again. Infringements ensure the game continues so that no1 can foul to finish a game. The French scored somewhere around minute 96.

I'm not the biggest rugby fan but that's one great sporting moment that I vividly remember. Brilliant drama
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Re: Drinks Breaks !
« Reply #18 on: Fri 26 Jun 2020 10:09 »
Quote from: Readingfan on Tue 23 Jun 2020 11:56
Quote from: RCG on Mon 22 Jun 2020 20:10
The classic was France vs Wales - once clock reaches 80:00 it is not stopped again. Infringements ensure the game continues so that no1 can foul to finish a game. The French scored somewhere around minute 96.

I'm not the biggest rugby fan but that's one great sporting moment that I vividly remember. Brilliant drama

Probably would be brilliant drama in football as well, with the team losing trying to retain possession and keep the ball in play whilst the winning team attempt to kick the ball into touch....
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Re: Drinks Breaks !
« Reply #19 on: Sat 27 Jun 2020 11:46 »
Quote from: nemesis on Mon 22 Jun 2020 08:54

If these highly paid referees cannot even do the simple stuff like adding on time reasonably correctly, why should we have much confidence in their other decisions?

They have consistently shown themselves unwilling or unable to add on adequate stoppage time. Why ? I don't know. They seen to want to get it over with a soon as they can!

Take the task away from them.
I absolutely agree.  I have long thought that at professional level there could be a stopping clock system with the referee indicating time on and off to a timekeeper, rather like in basketball.  Not practical at grass roots level but certainly doable at top level. 

This has been a particular problem in Spain for years and has now crept into the English game.  What happens there is that the board goes up, say for 3 minutes.  The team hanging on will outrageously waste time with delayed goal kicks, fake injuries, long-winded substitutions, cramp, and so on.  Yet the referee will always blow right on the 3 minutes. 
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Re: Drinks Breaks !
« Reply #20 on: Sat 27 Jun 2020 12:09 »
Quote from: LateTackle on Sat 27 Jun 2020 11:46
Quote from: nemesis on Mon 22 Jun 2020 08:54

If these highly paid referees cannot even do the simple stuff like adding on time reasonably correctly, why should we have much confidence in their other decisions?

They have consistently shown themselves unwilling or unable to add on adequate stoppage time. Why ? I don't know. They seen to want to get it over with a soon as they can!

Take the task away from them.
I absolutely agree.  I have long thought that at professional level there could be a stopping clock system with the referee indicating time on and off to a timekeeper, rather like in basketball.  Not practical at grass roots level but certainly doable at top level. 

This has been a particular problem in Spain for years and has now crept into the English game.  What happens there is that the board goes up, say for 3 minutes.  The team hanging on will outrageously waste time with delayed goal kicks, fake injuries, long-winded substitutions, cramp, and so on.  Yet the referee will always blow right on the 3 minutes. 

We're quite lucky in terms of the time wasting not being allowed to go OTT. A game last week went from +4 to +7 for that very reason & the ref made a point of tapping his watch & showing that he had stopped it 2/3 times, didn't caution anyone though! As to whether the time was correct in the first place... Well we have the same problem as everywhere else!!
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« Reply #21 on: Wed 01 Jul 2020 21:11 »
Probably the worst one so far

M Atkinson = W Ham v Chelsea

1m 50 sec minute drinks break, a 3m 30 sec var check, + one other VAR check, a chat at a corner and still only 3 mins added time.
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« Reply #22 on: Thu 02 Jul 2020 18:39 »
In my refereeing career I had to suspend play a couple of times.  Once was for an incredible hailstorm and play was suspended for about 20 minutes.  I simply stopped my stopwatch as we ran for cover.  Surely a drinks break can be regarded as a suspension of play and the time stopped.  That way the break could be regulated at 2 minutes and the time restarted on resumption.  Or is that too complicated for our exalted elites?
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