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Quote from: ajb95 on Wed 17 Feb 2021 09:42

Quote from: rustyref on Tue 16 Feb 2021 23:08

I only operated as high as National League, but there is absolutely an expectation that players aren't sent off for OFFINABUS.  After all, how many top level players are sent off for that offence?  Is that right, no it isn't, but it would need intervention starting at the top level to fix it.
The top level referees don't have that excuse (although they could still have personal issues), but those at L1 and below certainly do.

I do not condone the actions of Darren and expect him to be disciplined and reminded of his responsibilities.

However directly to you rustyref, Whilst I believe what you say I find what you say to be both ridiculous and unsurprising. It’s no wonder grassroots are under so much pressure when the professional game is obviously playing to different rules and interpretations.
How can one justify to a 16 year old kid or a pub team on a Sunday they should be sent off for OFFINABUS when they say “but xxx didn’t get sent off in the premiership yesterday?”

Is it any wonder so many referees have quit the game with an admission like that?

The governing bodies have brought it upon themselves!! The pathetic pandering and bow down to big clubs, players and leagues has created this mess instead of getting a grip with a clear issue.
Clear diving, cheating, confronting referees, referee blaming, from across the media and the like going unpunished - how long has it been going on?
In that sense I have every sympathy with Darren.

This brings to mind when I was Registration Secretary for our local Sunday League and Sir Trevor Brooking was well involved at the FA and many areas were struggling for referees. I think that, from memory, this was around 2008 and the 'Respect' campaign was being mooted at the time. He was asked why the FA was not starting at the top to get rid of foul and abusive language because this would filter down to grassroots. He argued that the respect should start at grassroots level and this would then filter through to the top, in spite of the interviewer telling him  that the top players should act as role models.
Having heard this, I wrote to the FA and queried why the campaign could not start by dealing with the role models. Their answer was that they could not stamp that out because it was considered 'Industrial Language' and that the field of play was their work place.
Consequently, we were left with a situation where local referees were dismissing players for their language, as per the FA instruction, but there was absolutely nothing done at the top level.

This showed to me that there was no real desire to sort anything out at the top level and that officials would continue to be vilified in one way or another should they try to implement any real jurisdiction.
Now that the fans are absent, we can hear just how much industrial language is used and every broadcast is littered with apologies from commentators in case you heard any bad language!

Quote from: Seagull on Wed 17 Feb 2021 16:28

Dermot Gallagher echoes my earlier comments and thoughts on this matter, i.e. you have to maintain self control and composure as a Referee, no matter what provocation may come your way (see lower down the article).

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11707/12220393/referee-darren-drysdale-squares-up-to-ipswichs-alan-judge-during-game

I see in that link Paul Lambert feels that the apology is "very soft".  While I can understand his disappointment not to have been awarded a penalty in that incident, I can't help but feel it may have reflected better on him and the club if the apology was accepted and everyone just moved on.  Possibly even an apology for whatever the player concerned said.

Quote from: Whistleblower on Wed 17 Feb 2021 11:18

On a different matter. If the match was a dire as people are saying, it doesn't exactly encourage me to make the journey and return to Portman Road when restrictions are eased and it is permitted once again to do so.

It was difficult enough watching it at home in the warm without going there to see it.

He’s now been charged by the FA

Quote from: Referee99 on Wed 17 Feb 2021 17:35

He’s now been charged by the FA

Another referee hung out to dry by the FA no doubt and we wonder why recruitment and retention of referees is so pathetically poor.

It's a good job that John Key, John Yates and all referees of yesteryear who wore their hearts on their sleeve aren't about now as they wouldn't survive. Refereeing , like most professions, seeks to eliminate character and replace it with a bland robotic mien.

Quote from: Whistleblower on Wed 17 Feb 2021 20:32

Quote from: Referee99 on Wed 17 Feb 2021 17:35

He’s now been charged by the FA

Another referee hung out to dry by the FA no doubt and we wonder why recruitment and retention of referees is so pathetically poor.

It's a good job that John Key, John Yates and all referees of yesteryear who wore their hearts on their sleeve aren't about now as they wouldn't survive. Refereeing , like most professions, seeks to eliminate character and replace it with a bland robotic mien.

You have hit the nail on the head with absolute precision, as always sir!