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Had to laugh at that one Hendo, the idea that we have defenders...

Distasteful behaviour from the Hungarian fans if truth be told….. another stadium ban will be issued no question.

Unfortunately the behaviour we saw tonight comes right from the top of the nation (under the “control” of he who will NOT be named) - if you give the people the green light to act like that in most facets (or fascists) of everyday life - then they will.

The enabling dog whistle reigns supreme…

If the alleged racist chanting is proven then FIFA should be adding to UEFA's play behind closed doors ruling.  Unfortunately whilst racism in Western Europe has been dramatically reduced, in Eastern Europe it appears it is still very much deemed acceptable.  Very sad to see.

I don't agree that it is deemed acceptable, certainly not by the majority.  There are many more Hungarians disgusted by the utterly despicable behaviour of a section of our fans than aren't. The federation has already received thousands of complaints from our own fans about it. Mr bmb has been in a crisis meeting about it since the end of the game, he works for the Federation & was working at the game tonight. We've had hundreds of complaints via our website because people seem to think we are the official site - I've been forwarding the emails onto the official Federation email addresses including those not in the public domain! There is a lot of anger from decent Hungarians about it.

It happens yes and shamefully so but not just in Hungary. The West is not that much better, it's only 6/7 weeks ago that some England fans thought it 'acceptable' to racially abuse 3 of their own players and to send death threats to them for missing penalties. The same 'fans' that boo'd their own players taking the knee, boo'd other nations National Anthems and sang songs about German bombers during a match v Germany.  It is still a problem as a whole, in the West as well as the East & central Europe. My son has never once been racially abused in Hungary, he walks around there feeling safe & secure, in England he has been racially abused so many times that I have lost count. It is not the Hungarian people, as a nation (despite those at the tops best efforts...) it is a despicable hooligan element within our fanbase. Wherever it happens it is shameful, it is despicable and there should be no place for it anywhere. FIFA & UEFA need to do more & be consistent. They are not right now. They fine and ban the small nations, they let it go with the big nations.  There needs to be a whole revamp - minimum 5 match behind closed doors ban, for any nation whose fans behave so despicably, big nations, small nations, it should not matter. Home Federations have to do more, life time bans for those responsible and better education programs. Those in the Ivory Towers, at national and international level need to finally stop burying their heads in the sand and really get tough on it. Decent fans, from everywhere have had enough of putting up with this, it really shouldn't be a thing in society at large, let alone at football. 

Like the majority of fans I just want to go to a game & come away full of pride from my team having put in a performance, win, lose or draw instead of being so angry that I am still up at 3.30am, fuming because a section of the crowd thought it was ok to embarrass and shame the nation with their disgusting behaviour. Not sure I am going to calm down any time soon either! Those responsible let the nation down, they let the players down and they let our manager down & I'll bet they don't even care that they have done so.

Don’t judge a nation of people by their government especially when the voting system is as iffy as it is. Hungarian people are no more Viktor Orbán than English people are Boris Johnson. Are everyone in England racists because he uses comments such as picanini children, watermelon smiles, refers to Muslim women as looking like letter boxes and countless other equally as appalling statements?  Brexit was born out of racism and xenophobia, add in the wind rush scandal. Johnson is more like Orbán than he’s not. He also describes him as a great and strong leader. Like the majority of English people, the majority of Hungarians disagree.

I agree the authorities, including ours, need to do a whole lot more and be a lot tougher. They also need to be consistent. No action taken against Romania for 90min of their fans calling Hungarians bozgor, Hungary got a ban for some fans chanting Transylvania belongs to Hungary, part of Hungary’s current ban is for booing other nation’s national anthem, where is the ban for England and Germany who also had fans booing national anthems. England fans being racist towards their own players - no ban. Romanian fans being Xenophobic - no ban. Serbian fans being racist and xenophobic - banned. Bulgaria fans banned for racism. Czech Republic - no ban for Xenophobia. There is no consistency and there needs to be. The bigger, more profitable nations get away with a lot, the smaller non money making nations get penalised every time. The former is wrong, the latter is correct. All nations should get punished for it but they don’t.