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Clattenburg's Autobiography
« on: Wed 22 Sep 2021 11:29 »
There is a longish article in today's Times about Clattenburg's forthcoming autobiography 'Whistle Blower' (  a title about which he has sought no proprietary
permission from me )  Of course one would need to read the book in order to pass proper judgement but the flavour of today's article confirms my long held impression that Clattenburg is an egotistical character with little grace about him.  He is quite open in his disregard, contempt even, for some senior figures in national and international refereeing. Naturally he is most complimentary about Collina, whose patronage he enjoyed greatly.

The article states that the severest and often most snide criticism of senior referees comes from the cohort of referees themselves. I have to say the article paints a rather shabby picture of the whole business. Whether it is actually true or just Clattenburg's rather unrestrained publicity to sell his book, I could not say.

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Re: Clattenburg's Autobiography
« Reply #1 on: Wed 22 Sep 2021 21:21 »
My opinion, from the rumour mill, what Clattenburg has said himself and what we’ve seen publicly is that Clattenburg was treated poorly by Reily and Elleray. So I can understand his criticism of them from a professional standpoint.

The personal insults and comments on other referees personalities is a real shame in my opinion and comes across very immature - maybe the entire text will reveal more but it doesn’t sit well with me to have a sly personal jab at people who he knows get so much stick from the public (stick he bemoans when directed at himself) and for me he has just given another stick with which to beat them.
 
Clattenburg was a brilliant referee, the best I have ever seen and in my opinion the best in Europe for about 10 years, this is all rather sad.
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Re: Clattenburg's Autobiography
« Reply #2 on: Mon 27 Sep 2021 22:51 »
Come come Dublin Ref, let's get it right!

Are we talking about Reilly or Riley?

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Re: Clattenburg's Autobiography
« Reply #3 on: Tue 28 Sep 2021 09:38 »
A purely personal response this.
I will not be purchasing this item, nor, if at all possible, reading it.

Talented Referee that he was I found him almost as arrogant as one Mr Poll. That I can sort of deal with, a degree of self confidence is required when operating at the top level.

What I cannot deal with was the almost perpetual "poor me" outlook where all his difficulties seemed to be somebody else's fault.
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Re: Clattenburg's Autobiography
« Reply #4 on: Tue 28 Sep 2021 13:50 »
Just a little reminder to anyone commenting on this thread, we are 'rate  the ref' and as such posts speculating on ANYBODY'S personality or character are not welcome, by all means you can chat about the merits of individual officials and your personal opinion on their ability is welcome but any labeling of of someone's personality will be removed and appropriate action taken against the poster.


I fear I may have transgressed rule by my opening post and, if I have, I apologise and do feel free to remove it.

The grey area comes though in that so much actual practice of refereeing is intimately bound up with a referee's style and that style is an expression of personality. My initial comments were not, I believe, mere speculation but a comment on direct quotes from Clattenburg himself ( who incidentally would certainly have failed the RTR test in his comments on Elleray, Riley and Atkinson ) published in a public forum. On reflection it would be better to say that his comments were egotistical and graceless, which they certainly were, and then leave it at that.
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Re: Clattenburg's Autobiography
« Reply #5 on: Tue 28 Sep 2021 15:05 »
Indeed WB - a referee who I think enjoyed the spolight being on him - a bit like Dean.

However despite his professional “controversy” an excellent referee and the best since Howard Webb retired. Apart from Oliver - I don’t see any other referee in England who will come close to his achievements
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Re: Clattenburg's Autobiography
« Reply #6 on: Tue 28 Sep 2021 15:38 »
If I too have transgressed then I apologise unreservedly.

For information, my comments were based on experience of the aforementioned referee a number of years ago and various published articles over the years
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Re: Clattenburg's Autobiography
« Reply #7 on: Thu 30 Sep 2021 19:45 »
Mr Clattenburg certainly generating "interest" wherever he goes. Started so well talking about female referees then dropped himself in it when talking about "babies or refereeing". Oops!
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Re: Clattenburg's Autobiography
« Reply #8 on: Thu 30 Sep 2021 20:36 »
When he finished refereeing he was rightly known as one of the greatest referees this country has ever produced. I don't understand why he's so willing to dismantle his reputation - the bits of the book I've seen seem well beneath someone who rose to the level that he did.
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Re: Clattenburg's Autobiography
« Reply #9 on: Thu 30 Sep 2021 20:40 »
Read the entire book today and enjoyed it. The moderators here, quite rightly, do not want commentary on anyone's personality and I certainly do not intend to do this. What I will say is that in context the snippets released to the media over the past weeks do not read as badly IMO. To be clear I don't support Mr. Clattenburg's comments on his former colleagues and don't think insults are ever required but I do feel a bit differently about the whole situation having read the book. I don't want to break any of the rules here so I won't comment further.

I enjoyed the book and I think its fair to say that Mr. Clattenburg has been through and awful lot and also achieved an awful lot in his career. I wish him well.
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Re: Clattenburg's Autobiography
« Reply #10 on: Thu 30 Sep 2021 22:50 »
Why do you think he has dropped himself in it by saying what has been quoted?

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Re: Clattenburg's Autobiography
« Reply #11 on: Sun 03 Oct 2021 16:26 »
I have bought it, will let you know what I think soon
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Re: Clattenburg's Autobiography
« Reply #12 on: Sun 03 Oct 2021 17:31 »
I don't think I will; I just didn't find him interesting enough. However, if the tome receives rave reviews on RTR then I might be persuaded.

I wait, probably in futile longing, for Joe Worrall's autobiography which I most certainly would purchase. One of the virtues I most cherish in people is modesty and that is a virtue which does not always sit very easily with the writing of an apologia pro vita sua.

Did George Courtney ever publish an autobiography? That is also one I would very much like to read.

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« Reply #13 on: Sun 03 Oct 2021 17:39 »
Thanks I think I might get it , it will make a pleasant change to read first hand opinion rather than presumption.

Although when friends know that one has a keen interest in football refereeing, these autobiographies tend to arrive as birthday/Christmas presents so it may be that, indirectly, I shall be adding to Mr Clattenburg's royalties.

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Re: Clattenburg's Autobiography
« Reply #14 on: Sun 03 Oct 2021 23:37 »
Read the first chapter and already I'm hooked.