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High drama at the end in what was a poor performance from Chris Kavanagh. His decision making was erratic at times.

I don’t question that it was a handball for a United penalty but the final whistle has sounded. Is that not the end of the game?

Can someone excuse my ignorance when asking how can the penalty then be given?

One of the problems with VAR. I remember it happening in the bundesliga, when both teams were already in the dressing rooms but that was for half time..
Can’t argue with the fact that it was handball.

Agree a very poor performance from Kavanagh: poor foul detection, very erratic with cards too.

Have to say Hooper has been superb on VAR and thank goodness

I haven't seen it but was he already going to check VAR anyway or was he influenced by the Man Utd players surrounding him?
Talksport keep going back to The Amex to check if there are any more penalties been awarded...

Interesting listening to the comments after the game on BT Sport about Brighton's second penalty that was overturned after Kavanagh was advised to look at the monitor.  Peter Walton, not surprisingly, thought it was a correct decision eventually as not enough contact to justify a penalty.  Ex United defender, Ferdinand, disagreed and felt the original decision was justified.

To me it was one of those that depended on which angle you viewed it.  From one, the penalty decision looked reasonable.  From another, the Brighton player appeared more to go into Pogba. 

Sean Massey-Ellis will be disappointed if she missed the offside for one of the United disallowed goals and overall I didn't think it was a particularly good day for the officials, with the exception of Simon Hooper!

Quote from: QuoCob on Sat 26 Sep 2020 14:53

I haven't seen it but was he already going to check VAR anyway or was he influenced by the Man Utd players surrounding him?
Talksport keep going back to The Amex to check if there are any more penalties been awarded...

How can he be influenced when VAR checks everything anyway??

Indeed!

At least the 4th time this season we've had two penalties in a PL game and unusual to see three different decisions overturned by VAR. I think Simon Hooper is one of the better VARs from what I've seen.

I think VAR can intervene until the players have left the filed of play. You can say that's the trouble with VAR but ultimately it got a key match decision correct right at the end.

I believe the PGMO's general advice when VAR is checking is to try and delay the full time whistle until they've finished checking but obviously that requires the referee to have an idea there's an issue.

According to the VAR protocol, the review process can take place AFTER the final whistle.

Excellent intervention by Simon Hooper.

How long after? Could the players be in the shower and then made to come back?

Quote from: edy on Sat 26 Sep 2020 16:20

According to the VAR protocol, the review process can take place AFTER the final whistle.

Excellent intervention by Simon Hooper.

How long after? Could the players be in the shower and then made to come back?

In a Bundesliga game last season at half time, the players were brought back out of the dressing room to enable a penalty to be taken.

Quote from: edy on Sat 26 Sep 2020 16:20

According to the VAR protocol, the review process can take place AFTER the final whistle.

Excellent intervention by Simon Hooper.

How long after? Could the players be in the shower and then made to come back?

IFAB doesn't say. Apparently they are more interested in accuracy than the time.