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Author Topic: Chris Kavanagh - Arsenal v Leicester  (Read 598 times)

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Chris Kavanagh - Arsenal v Leicester
« on: Tue 23 Oct 2018 00:07 »
How did he fail to award a penalty for a clear cut handball (and a RC for a  2nd booking for Holding) when looking straight at the incident from 10 yards away?

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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Arsenal v Leicester
« Reply #1 on: Tue 23 Oct 2018 00:12 »
It was one of those; it was hand ball but was it deliberate?
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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Arsenal v Leicester
« Reply #2 on: Tue 23 Oct 2018 09:19 »
Hands above head, must be a penalty.... Chris Sutton slams the decision....

I would argue that this was one of the best decisions made this season. Both players were going for the ball, both had their hands up and looking at the photographs they look like a mirror image of each other! Were both trying to handle the ball? No, I believe that the defender's hand appears to be in a natural position as a result of jumping to head the ball (just like the attacker's) and therefore I cannot see how the handball was deliberate or that he could have moved his hands out of the way. Difficult to accept from a Leicester perspective but had a penalty and a second yellow been given the Arsenal would have had good cause to feel aggrieved. I wonder what Chris Kavanagh's reasoning was?
It also occurs to me that it must have been tempting for the assistant to call a penalty as all neutrals must have at first.
Otherwise I thought the referee was OK. It was one of those games where there were many similar petty offences and you have the perennial problem of differentiating the ones worthy of yellow and those not and the word inconsistent comes to mind but in these circumstances it is easy to hang that word around the referees neck when in fact players these days are too clever and cynical.

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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Arsenal v Leicester
« Reply #3 on: Tue 23 Oct 2018 09:50 »
Hands above head, must be a penalty.... Chris Sutton slams the decision....

I would argue that this was one of the best decisions made this season. Both players were going for the ball, both had their hands up and looking at the photographs they look like a mirror image of each other! Were both trying to handle the ball? No, I believe that the defender's hand appears to be in a natural position as a result of jumping to head the ball (just like the attacker's) and therefore I cannot see how the handball was deliberate or that he could have moved his hands out of the way. Difficult to accept from a Leicester perspective but had a penalty and a second yellow been given the Arsenal would have had good cause to feel aggrieved. I wonder what Chris Kavanagh's reasoning was?
It also occurs to me that it must have been tempting for the assistant to call a penalty as all neutrals must have at first.
Otherwise I thought the referee was OK. It was one of those games where there were many similar petty offences and you have the perennial problem of differentiating the ones worthy of yellow and those not and the word inconsistent comes to mind but in these circumstances it is easy to hang that word around the referees neck when in fact players these days are too clever and cynical.

Anyone think he might have found it just that little bit easier to give at the other end. Kavanagh seems to have settled in well.

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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Arsenal v Leicester
« Reply #4 on: Tue 23 Oct 2018 13:49 »
I don't buy the argument that it wasn't 'deliberate' - I think everyone would expect a penalty to be given in that situation.

I'm not sure a second yellow card would have been necessary though.

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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Arsenal v Leicester
« Reply #5 on: Tue 23 Oct 2018 15:16 »
I'm an Arsenal fan and I think it was a penalty and called it as it happened. The only possible argument against it I can see is perhaps Holding was nudged before, but I think that is clutching at straws given how high his hand was. Can't understand the calls for a second yellow though - not every handball, even at a penalty, has to be a YC.

Shame, as other than that key decision, Kavanagh had a decent game.

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Re: Chris Kavanagh - Arsenal v Leicester
« Reply #6 on: Wed 24 Oct 2018 19:32 »
Kavanagh has been excellent for a year and a half, this maybe the first bit of adversity he has had - react well and a top referee we have.