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Author Topic: Stephanie Frappart Chelsea vs Liverpool  (Read 1618 times)

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I thought they were very good overall.  The only question mark on the penalty was whether Adrian actually made any contact with the striker, and given Adrian has come out and said that he did contact him surely clears that one up.

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I thought they were very good overall.  The only question mark on the penalty was whether Adrian actually made any contact with the striker, and given Adrian has come out and said that he did contact him surely clears that one up.
I haven’t seen Adrian’s comment but contact does not always equate to a foul and the footage from behind the goal shows the Chelsea player’s forward movement instigating the minimal contact that occurred. The Assistant was perfectly positioned and immediately signalled a goal kick.

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I thought they were very good overall.  The only question mark on the penalty was whether Adrian actually made any contact with the striker, and given Adrian has come out and said that he did contact him surely clears that one up.
I haven’t seen Adrian’s comment but contact does not always equate to a foul and the footage from behind the goal shows the Chelsea player’s forward movement instigating the minimal contact that occurred. The Assistant was perfectly positioned and immediately signalled a goal kick.

However, VAR said a penalty, therefore, the opinions of the onfield officials matter not one jot!! This is the way that modern football is going because it is what the fans want ---or is it the media?
My opinion remains as my addendum to my posts.
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I thought they were very good overall.  The only question mark on the penalty was whether Adrian actually made any contact with the striker, and given Adrian has come out and said that he did contact him surely clears that one up.
I haven’t seen Adrian’s comment but contact does not always equate to a foul and the footage from behind the goal shows the Chelsea player’s forward movement instigating the minimal contact that occurred. The Assistant was perfectly positioned and immediately signalled a goal kick.

However, VAR said a penalty, therefore, the opinions of the onfield officials matter not one jot!! This is the way that modern football is going because it is what the fans want ---or is it the media?
My opinion remains as my addendum to my posts.
Allegedly VAR didn’t have an angle to see it. One of the officials got it right but the Referee chose not to consult her but why didn’t VAR see that and tell the Referee that the Assistant, better positioned, had flagged?

I’m just one of the mugs (paying supporter) thrown out with the bath water while the TV calls the shots and this unfit for purpose VAR vanity project continues. It’s farcical. I agree with comments you’ve made previously.
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The interesting thing is, BT Sport had different TV Angles to VAR. Like in cricket, VAR needs all available TV Angles. They can't have 50% of the angles available etc.

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Revolutionary I know but why not

First, let the officials do their job without unnecessary interference

And

Accept that Women are eminently capable of Refereeing.
It looked to myself and some non referees in the pub that some players were less fit than M&s Frappart
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I’ve now seen that penalty decision on YouTube and it just isn’t a foul. The Assistant, better positioned, clearly flags for a goal kick but the Referee is too quick on the whistle and has guessed. She must have because if that’s a foul the Laws must have changed without anyone telling me. Her position was far less credible than the Assistant who knows it’s a goal kick. The Chelsea players don’t even claim or react at all-it’s a surprise to everyone.

It further proves what a load of old nonsense VAR is. They slap themselves on the back for Raheem Sterling’s armpit being offside yet can’t spot a clear and obvious key match decision in a Cup Final.

Jurgen Klopp has been gracious in victory but had the result not gone our way I doubt he would have been so complimentary.

But the intention is that they do spot them, even if user error means sometimes they don’t. If a different VAR official had changed the decision, would you have approved of the system?

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Only saw a bit at the end of the game but she seemed OK and in control.  Noticed that the VAR did not seem to be bothering about goalkeepers moving off their line for the kicks from the penalty spot - particularloy the last one.

You have to remember that UEFA were hacked off because the Super Cup was being contested by two PL teams and that VAR was not important in the grand scale of things because the PL are applying their own version anyway so UEFA played them at their own game.

When it comes to penalising goalkeeper encroachment at penalties at least, would it not be fairer to say that it is FIFA who have their own version?n

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I’ve now seen that penalty decision on YouTube and it just isn’t a foul. The Assistant, better positioned, clearly flags for a goal kick but the Referee is too quick on the whistle and has guessed. She must have because if that’s a foul the Laws must have changed without anyone telling me. Her position was far less credible than the Assistant who knows it’s a goal kick. The Chelsea players don’t even claim or react at all-it’s a surprise to everyone.

It further proves what a load of old nonsense VAR is. They slap themselves on the back for Raheem Sterling’s armpit being offside yet can’t spot a clear and obvious key match decision in a Cup Final.

Jurgen Klopp has been gracious in victory but had the result not gone our way I doubt he would have been so complimentary.

But the intention is that they do spot them, even if user error means sometimes they don’t. If a different VAR official had changed the decision, would you have approved of the system?
I’m sorry I don’t understand your question.

I don’t agree with VAR. I believe it’s driven by the new owners of football, the TV, and is an affront to people like me who pay good money to go to games. TV wants the atmosphere but treats fans like dirt.

Football is too dynamic for this interference. It’s an abomination.
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I’ve now seen that penalty decision on YouTube and it just isn’t a foul. The Assistant, better positioned, clearly flags for a goal kick but the Referee is too quick on the whistle and has guessed. She must have because if that’s a foul the Laws must have changed without anyone telling me. Her position was far less credible than the Assistant who knows it’s a goal kick. The Chelsea players don’t even claim or react at all-it’s a surprise to everyone.

It further proves what a load of old nonsense VAR is. They slap themselves on the back for Raheem Sterling’s armpit being offside yet can’t spot a clear and obvious key match decision in a Cup Final.

Jurgen Klopp has been gracious in victory but had the result not gone our way I doubt he would have been so complimentary.

But the intention is that they do spot them, even if user error means sometimes they don’t. If a different VAR official had changed the decision, would you have approved of the system?
I’m sorry I don’t understand your question.

I don’t agree with VAR. I believe it’s driven by the new owners of football, the TV, and is an affront to people like me who pay good money to go to games. TV wants the atmosphere but treats fans like dirt.

Football is too dynamic for this interference. It’s an abomination.

Very true and this is why, after travelling to support my team for 68 seasons, I shall cease going to PL matches and go and watch football, at any level, which still respects the onfield officials and their decisions ---whether they be correct or otherwise.
Mind you, we may end up getting relegated and I can continue my quest unless the Championship introduces VAR, which I think is more than likely. C'est la vie!
Referee's decision used to be final!