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Changes under Howard Webb
« on: Thu 20 Apr 2023 13:03 »
Interesting article from ESPN - https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/4928105/premier-league-to-appoint-new-coaches-var-specialists-to-continue-improved-standards

It notes some changes taking place in PGMOL, with Jon Moss set to replace Adam Gayle-Watts, who will be taking up a different position.

Apparently Webb wants to go in the direction of VAR specialists and referees from SG2 and NL will also be considered

Independent Panel have recorded fewer errors by VAR since Webb took over.

Semi-automated offside is unlikely for next season - it would be interesting to know the reasons for this as it is in leagues such as Italy I believe and I certainly think would be an improvement as would make for quicker decisions.
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #1 on: Thu 20 Apr 2023 13:17 »
Just wondering if there may be a position for one of his former team, Darren Cann, who unfortunately must be nearing the end of his great career, with a Wembley semi-final appointment a fitting swansong? 
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #2 on: Thu 20 Apr 2023 14:37 »
I am really impressed in the way that the game is moving at  the top level and wonder just how long it will be before each game is officiated by a committee.
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #3 on: Thu 20 Apr 2023 18:28 »
I feel rather sad that all this 'tinkering' with VAR and putting just about every incident under the microscope is taking away the spontaneity,in my opinion, of the game
I find I am now not really interested in the Premiership partly because of all this and rarely, if ever, will watch a match in the in the Premiership
I suppose it is progress but not for me

I hope that this does not permeate downwards but I suppose this is a matter of time
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #4 on: Thu 20 Apr 2023 19:26 »
Quote from: cwh on Thu 20 Apr 2023 18:28
I hope that this does not permeate downwards but I suppose this is a matter of time

Thankfully that seems to be inhibited by the cost so the rest of the league should be spared from VAR. Lucky for them!
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #5 on: Fri 21 Apr 2023 11:39 »
Quote from: Readingfan on Thu 20 Apr 2023 13:03
Independent Panel have recorded fewer errors by VAR since Webb took over.

They're probably not very independent then if this is what they've come up with.
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #6 on: Fri 21 Apr 2023 14:01 »
Quote from: takethejag on Fri 21 Apr 2023 11:39
Quote from: Readingfan on Thu 20 Apr 2023 13:03
Independent Panel have recorded fewer errors by VAR since Webb took over.

They're probably not very independent then if this is what they've come up with.

Agreed opinions and more opinions, most of which are probably split
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #7 on: Mon 08 May 2023 06:34 »
Reports Howard Webb will appear on Monday Night Football on Sky a week today before Leicester V Liverpool. Apparently there will also be a 30 minute programme released at some point before then which will include some audio between the VAR and referee - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12057347/SPORTS-AGENDA-new-Sky-Sports-explain-VAR-decisions-viewers.html

It certainly seems a step in the right direction.
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #8 on: Mon 08 May 2023 10:00 »
Quote from: Readingfan on Mon 08 May 2023 06:34
Reports Howard Webb will appear on Monday Night Football on Sky a week today before Leicester V Liverpool. Apparently there will also be a 30 minute programme released at some point before then which will include some audio between the VAR and referee - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12057347/SPORTS-AGENDA-new-Sky-Sports-explain-VAR-decisions-viewers.html

It certainly seems a step in the right direction.

Another step in the right direction so I wonder just when are we expecting to see the PERFECT game of football? Answers on a postage stamp to FIFA please.
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #9 on: Sun 14 May 2023 19:16 »
From what I can work out, Webb will be on Monday Night Football on Sky Sports as part of the build-up to Leicester V Liverpool tomorrow night. The show will start at 6.30pm and feature clips of some audio between ref/VAR and Webb discussing them.

A programme with the clips will also air on BT Sport at 7pm tomorrow.
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #10 on: Sun 14 May 2023 21:54 »
I will wager a bet that we dont hear any audio between officials ie var and the referee when a controversial decision is made, ie where we need to know the thinking of officials in such cases.
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #11 on: Sun 14 May 2023 22:33 »
There's potential for Carragher and Neville to take Webb to the cleaners tomorrow or they'll just hide and play Mr Nice Guy. I hope he gets grilled because there's a few questions that need answering!
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #12 on: Mon 15 May 2023 05:43 »
You'd hope a range of clips would be selected - ideally you probably want some that demonstrate best practice and the system working as intended, some which were clearly wrong so you have that transparency, and a few which are a bit more in the complex grey areas so the process can be explained.
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #13 on: Mon 15 May 2023 18:41 »
In fairness to broadcasters, they want officials to appear on their shows but they know that if they play it wrong it will simply stop PGMOL from appearing. Web’s not going out there to be a punching bag giving Neville and Carragher a free hit!
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Re: Changes under Howard Webb
« Reply #14 on: Mon 15 May 2023 19:39 »
Well, despite the naysayers, I think this has been enlightening and Webb has done well.
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