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C BREAKSPEAR - Plymouth v Portsmouth
« on: Mon 16 Nov 2020 21:35 »
A decent show from one of the EFL’s card sharks... however I still despise this rule for handball in the box when a player is making an attempt for the ball.... it is so subjective.

Breakspear certainly looks very slimline these days, and his fitness levels look a lot sharper than in the past few years...plus it appears he has mellowed somewhat in brandishing cards like confetti.

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Re: C BREAKSPEAR - Plymouth v Portsmouth
« Reply #1 on: Mon 16 Nov 2020 22:07 »
Thought he was good myself , feel the handball rule cost Argyle two points but it wasn’t Charles fault , clear pen under current laws , decent display from the officials IMO.
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« Reply #2 on: Tue 17 Nov 2020 12:04 »
I thought it was a clear penalty under any circumstances.  Why would you jump at a ball with your arms in front of your face?  Excellent positioning from Mr Breakspear sold it immediately.  I still can't get used to his new body shape.

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Re: C BREAKSPEAR - Plymouth v Portsmouth
« Reply #3 on: Tue 17 Nov 2020 13:42 »
Why would you jump at a ball with your arms in front of your face?

To protect that pretty boy face!  ::)
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Re: C BREAKSPEAR - Plymouth v Portsmouth
« Reply #4 on: Tue 17 Nov 2020 16:01 »
Why would you jump at a ball with your arms in front of your face?

To protect that pretty boy face!  ::)
the offending player does have quite a pretty face actually.
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Re: C BREAKSPEAR - Plymouth v Portsmouth
« Reply #5 on: Tue 17 Nov 2020 16:11 »
  ..plus it appears he has mellowed somewhat in brandishing cards like confetti.

Probably due to his improved fitness and being closer to play he's likely getting more right.
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Re: C BREAKSPEAR - Plymouth v Portsmouth
« Reply #6 on: Tue 17 Nov 2020 16:46 »
I believe that Breakspear has been knocking on the SG2 door for a little while now. Quite why he never seems to make it when they take people who have done barely a year in Divs 1 and 2 is hard to fathom and leads me to suspect that there is more to it that just refereeing ability. On his day Breakspear is a very decent referee and deserves his chance at a higher level.

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Re: C BREAKSPEAR - Plymouth v Portsmouth
« Reply #7 on: Tue 17 Nov 2020 16:56 »
Long time lurker, first time poster here. Evening all.

There's seems to be some disagreement in the media sources whether CB booked 5 or 6 players last night.  Sky showed a yellow card caption for Danny Mayor, immediately after John Marquis was booked in the first half, but I think it may have been a retrospective update for a yellow for a bad challenge by Mayor after 2 minutes. 

Soccerbase agrees - 6 cards - but everyone else says 5.  There was certainly no TV picture of CB actually carding Mayor.

I was just interested in how these things are actually declared as official - presumably from the ref's report ?


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Re: C BREAKSPEAR - Plymouth v Portsmouth
« Reply #8 on: Tue 17 Nov 2020 18:10 »
Indeed, referees submit a list of names, so this will be clearer in a day or so

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Re: C BREAKSPEAR - Plymouth v Portsmouth
« Reply #9 on: Tue 17 Nov 2020 18:30 »
Thanks.

FWIW, I thought he did pretty well, certainly didn’t stand out as a clown. The penalty looked fair to me too. The Marquis booking did seem harsh though - especially if Mayor’s early one wasn’t penalised in the same way. The handbags at the end could perhaps have been settled by a quick word and a handshake rather than a double booking. But I’m no expert on the laws in those circumstances.

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« Reply #10 on: Tue 17 Nov 2020 20:58 »
Long time lurker, first time poster here. Evening all.

There's seems to be some disagreement in the media sources whether CB booked 5 or 6 players last night.  Sky showed a yellow card caption for Danny Mayor, immediately after John Marquis was booked in the first half, but I think it may have been a retrospective update for a yellow for a bad challenge by Mayor after 2 minutes. 

Soccerbase agrees - 6 cards - but everyone else says 5.  There was certainly no TV picture of CB actually carding Mayor.

I was just interested in how these things are actually declared as official - presumably from the ref's report ?

Don't take Soccerbase as gospel; they just use whatever is received by the Press Association. On a recent midweek there were six refereeing changes, but Soccerbase had all the originals, until some eagle-eyed Statto pointed it out...
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Re: C BREAKSPEAR - Plymouth v Portsmouth
« Reply #11 on: Wed 18 Nov 2020 10:00 »
Officiating really well for me. Looks confident and extremely comfortable at this level.

Add his much improved fitness and I believe he is performing better than a fair few at SG2 and definitely deserves his chance.

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Re: C BREAKSPEAR - Plymouth v Portsmouth
« Reply #12 on: Wed 18 Nov 2020 11:49 »
Long time lurker, first time poster here. Evening all.

There's seems to be some disagreement in the media sources whether CB booked 5 or 6 players last night.  Sky showed a yellow card caption for Danny Mayor, immediately after John Marquis was booked in the first half, but I think it may have been a retrospective update for a yellow for a bad challenge by Mayor after 2 minutes. 

Soccerbase agrees - 6 cards - but everyone else says 5.  There was certainly no TV picture of CB actually carding Mayor.

I was just interested in how these things are actually declared as official - presumably from the ref's report ?

Welcome to RTR, glad that you've joined us after being a 'longtime lurker'. I saw Charles Breakspear at my local club, Crewe Alex, a while back and thought he was good, and I don't remember him getting his cards out that afternoon at all. Good to see our clubs on the up and I'm looking forward to seeing Crewe v Crystal Palace (my other love) in the PL in the not too distant future  ;D

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Re: C BREAKSPEAR - Plymouth v Portsmouth
« Reply #13 on: Wed 18 Nov 2020 14:02 »
Thanks Acme. 

Card-free games like that are quite interesting.  There seems to be an assumption they're rare, but looking at the stats they happen every week (although CB would not be high up the list of likely candidates), and they seem to involve certain refs rather more often than the law of averages would suggest.

BTW, the advice to be wary of Soccerbase was good, it's been confirmed to me that there were only 5 cards in Argyle -v- Pompey on Monday.

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Re: C BREAKSPEAR - Plymouth v Portsmouth
« Reply #14 on: Wed 18 Nov 2020 14:02 »
Long time lurker, first time poster here. Evening all.

Welcome to RTR ;D
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