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Re: Break away Super League
« Reply #30 on: Mon 19 Apr 2021 15:47 »
When Paul wrote to Timothy that "The love of money is the root of all evil," he was perhaps overstating the case, but in the realm of professional football, he would not be too far wide of the mark.

Given the risks involved, my suspicion is that the Dirty Dozen are indulging in a spot of posturing and muscle-flexing - a sort of haka designed to intimidate UEFA ahead of tomorrow's meeting, with a view to wringing possible concessions. The response from the various federations is most encouraging, however, and it is to be hoped that they don't weaken.

If however the clubs go through with their threat, I foresee vast profits - for members of the legal profession, who are doubtless rubbing their hands with glee.

As for referees, any gain for them (and assistants) would be short-lived, if it is assumed that only those with no further prospects would accept the chalice. Woild FIFA retirees be prepared to forego a possible quarter century of foreign trips as observers, goodwill and prospects within their home federatons for a lucrative, but brief offer of pieces of silver? The ones who might be tempted are those who never made the FIFA list: I have no doubt that Lee Mason, for example,  could referee a Milan derby successfully and Andy Woolmer, say, El Classico, but I imagine they would not succumb to temptation.

This is a serious, potentially damaging state of affairs and nothing to laugh or smile about.

However my heartfelt thanks to JCFC for lightening the tone with his suggestion that Lee Mason could referee the Milan Derby and Andy Woolmer El Classico. I chuckled myself to sleep last night at the prospect. 😄😂😄😂
Might grandad Walton be tempted out of retirement?



The word JCFC used in his post about Mason and Woolmer refereeing on such a high profile international stage which made me slightly raise one eyebrow was "successfully".  I mean, I could referee the Milan Derby and El Classico but it would be a sight from which those of a nervous disposition would have to avert their eyes and European football would probably take about twenty years to recover.
Whilst I have no doubts that Messrs Mason and Woolmer would make a far better fist of refereeing a Milan derby than I would (indeed Whistleblower may also be more adept at it than me), I will be happy to throw my hat into the ring as a potential official on the new league.  I appreciate that this may render me ineligible for all sorts of things in the future but, as I am well into my fifties, I would be happy to hoover up any large wodge of cash that they care to hurl in my direction.  I suspect that there are many far higher ranked referees than me who would make a similar decision.  Although SG1 referees are paid a decent salary, retirement from refereeing will not mean retirement for working for them.  A European Super League would only need a small number of officials and could afford to pay vast salaries to officials if it chose, or needed, to.
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Re: Break away Super League
« Reply #31 on: Mon 19 Apr 2021 15:54 »
I wonder whether the likes of Clatts might be tempted?

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« Reply #32 on: Mon 19 Apr 2021 15:55 »
As this tweet says - what a disgrace... I won't say what I really think or I'll have to put myself on moderated posts due to foul language!

A board member of one of the ‘big 6’ tells Sky Sports 🗣 “Our job is to maximise our revenues. The wider good of the game is a secondary concern."

He also confirms the clubs don’t care about the backlash and opinions of the fans.

What a disgrace.

https://twitter.com/101greatgoals/status/1384105527395819523
Hajrá Lilák. Csak a Kispest. Hajrá Magyarok! Hajrá játékvezetői csapat! Soha ne add fel. Nincs sárga kérem!!! No Chris Kavanagh doesn't live in Ashton or even in the Greater Manchester area!!
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Re: Break away Super League
« Reply #33 on: Mon 19 Apr 2021 16:03 »
Ceferin hasn’t minced his words one bit... I thought he was quite polite when he refered to these traitors as “snakes”.

Premier league meeting tomorrow.... let’s hope they have the balls to kick out these money grabbing ***eholes from infecting the game with pure evil.

So you expect the "money grabbing ahem" to kick out the "money grabbing ahem"  ??
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Re: Break away Super League
« Reply #34 on: Mon 19 Apr 2021 16:06 »
Apparently going to be a midweek competition with clubs continuing to play in their national competitions at the weekends (BBC). On that basis, I can see it happening.

UEFA say they will be banned from domestic leagues & from representing their national teams if they go ahead with it and quite right as well.

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1384131697361317889

Do I detect a conspiracy theory arising? Six English clubs (twice as many as elsewhere), with players such as Kane, Sterling, Foden McGuire, Rashford...... prevented from representing their country? Assuming PSG don't join the bandwagon, the French will be laughing all the way to Qatar and beyond!
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Re: Break away Super League
« Reply #35 on: Mon 19 Apr 2021 16:06 »
I wonder whether the likes of Clatts might be tempted?

Given his links with the leisure leagues and the fact he is pushing them and inclusivity I'd think not. Could be wrong of course but it would go against what he is promoting with leisure leagues. He also has a pretty established retirement job in the media. I'd personally think those most tempted would be those close to retirement who are unlikely to get a role as a UEFA observer or a high level Federation based job. As JCFC said

As for referees, any gain for them (and assistants) would be short-lived, if it is assumed that only those with no further prospects would accept the chalice. Woild FIFA retirees be prepared to forgo a possible quarter century of foreign trips as observers, goodwill and prospects within their home federatons for a lucrative, but brief offer of pieces of silver? The ones who might be tempted are those who never made the FIFA list: I have no doubt that Lee Mason, for example,  could referee a Milan derby successfully and Andy Woolmer, say, El Classico, but I imagine they would not succumb to temptation.
Hajrá Lilák. Csak a Kispest. Hajrá Magyarok! Hajrá játékvezetői csapat! Soha ne add fel. Nincs sárga kérem!!! No Chris Kavanagh doesn't live in Ashton or even in the Greater Manchester area!!
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Re: Break away Super League
« Reply #36 on: Mon 19 Apr 2021 16:09 »
Ceferin hasn’t minced his words one bit... I thought he was quite polite when he refered to these traitors as “snakes”.

Premier league meeting tomorrow.... let’s hope they have the balls to kick out these money grabbing ***eholes from infecting the game with pure evil.

So you expect the "money grabbing ahem" to kick out the "money grabbing ahem"  ??

Yes because they are attempting to money grab from the original money grabbers!
Hajrá Lilák. Csak a Kispest. Hajrá Magyarok! Hajrá játékvezetői csapat! Soha ne add fel. Nincs sárga kérem!!! No Chris Kavanagh doesn't live in Ashton or even in the Greater Manchester area!!

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Re: Break away Super League
« Reply #37 on: Mon 19 Apr 2021 16:10 »
Statement in Parliament on the ESL at 4.30pm.

The 'special one' sacked.

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Re: Break away Super League
« Reply #38 on: Mon 19 Apr 2021 17:36 »
When Paul wrote to Timothy that "The love of money is the root of all evil," he was perhaps overstating the case, but in the realm of professional football, he would not be too far wide of the mark.

Given the risks involved, my suspicion is that the Dirty Dozen are indulging in a spot of posturing and muscle-flexing - a sort of haka designed to intimidate UEFA ahead of tomorrow's meeting, with a view to wringing possible concessions. The response from the various federations is most encouraging, however, and it is to be hoped that they don't weaken.

If however the clubs go through with their threat, I foresee vast profits - for members of the legal profession, who are doubtless rubbing their hands with glee.

As for referees, any gain for them (and assistants) would be short-lived, if it is assumed that only those with no further prospects would accept the chalice. Woild FIFA retirees be prepared to forego a possible quarter century of foreign trips as observers, goodwill and prospects within their home federatons for a lucrative, but brief offer of pieces of silver? The ones who might be tempted are those who never made the FIFA list: I have no doubt that Lee Mason, for example,  could referee a Milan derby successfully and Andy Woolmer, say, El Classico, but I imagine they would not succumb to temptation.

This is a serious, potentially damaging state of affairs and nothing to laugh or smile about.

However my heartfelt thanks to JCFC for lightening the tone with his suggestion that Lee Mason could referee the Milan Derby and Andy Woolmer El Classico. I chuckled myself to sleep last night at the prospect. 😄😂😄😂
Might grandad Walton be tempted out of retirement?

 What would be the chances of a place found for Trevor Kettle

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Re: Break away Super League
« Reply #39 on: Mon 19 Apr 2021 19:39 »
I think Whistleblower in the first paragraph of #29 is right. The fact that the statement was issued the day before the UEFA meeting to confirm the new Champions League format - and at a time when the proposed "super league" has been able to muster only 12 of its suggested 15 "core" members - is a bit of a giveaway. I guess it will now be a question as to who blinks first. I think the likelihood must be that UEFA will cave in to the demands of the new cartel for (even) more money as the price of averting the new ESL.
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Re: Break away Super League
« Reply #40 on: Mon 19 Apr 2021 19:48 »
Could be a nice feisty affair for Anthony Taylor tonight especially given the tee shirts Leeds have worn. Good luck to him.

As for the Super League what a disgrace!!
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« Reply #41 on: Tue 20 Apr 2021 04:46 »
Personally I’m 100% against the Super League and I am disgusted that my beloved Utd want to be part of it , however I think while fans are against it now I think they will slowly be in favour of it if VAR is not used in the Super League

I think VAR is a contributing factor regardless of how small a factor , it has taken the enjoyment out of football , players and fans alike have become fed up of it making a mockery of the PL and taking the enjoyment out of what was once a beautiful game

Fans would be able to enjoy football again , as would players this breakaway doesn’t surprise me as money in football talks and greed is the result , dans are no longer a primary concern of football clubs that are willing to join the European breakaway league
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« Reply #42 on: Tue 20 Apr 2021 08:23 »
Personally I’m 100% against the Super League and I am disgusted that my beloved Utd want to be part of it , however I think while fans are against it now I think they will slowly be in favour of it if VAR is not used in the Super League

I think VAR is a contributing factor regardless of how small a factor , it has taken the enjoyment out of football , players and fans alike have become fed up of it making a mockery of the PL and taking the enjoyment out of what was once a beautiful game

Fans would be able to enjoy football again , as would players this breakaway doesn’t surprise me as money in football talks and greed is the result , dans are no longer a primary concern of football clubs that are willing to join the European breakaway league


If it goes ahead there is 0% chance of it going ahead without VAR.  And, given that it could be "unsanctioned", who knows what other gimmicks they will adopt to "improve the product"?
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Re: Break away Super League
« Reply #43 on: Tue 20 Apr 2021 10:43 »
If clubs and their players are banned from domestic leagues, which i hope they are, the likes of chelsea are
Going to have a lot of players to fit into their matchday squads as they wont be able to loan the surplus out.

As for france laughing all the way to qatar, i doubt that as quite a few of their squad play for the 12 clubs
Joining the breakaway league, making them ineligible for qatar.

Interesting legal field, could players leave on bosman frees if they dont want to participate in the new league, i guess depends on what the players contracts stipulate.

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« Reply #44 on: Tue 20 Apr 2021 11:00 »
I can totally understand UEFA/FIFA wanting to ban players as they are the key assets of these clubs. But you could see by Klopp’s reaction last night that he and the players are totally in the dark - which shows the deceit these owners have taken by not even consulting/ telling their own employees!

The owners of these clubs hate international football so they will perfectly fine with their players being banned from Euros and World Cup.

It’s up to the managers the players and the fans to stop this because the players will not stand for that!